Curse of Oak Island TV Program

[skateteacher]

Fully agree. I love the show and like the two, I'm older in age but there is still that young boy inside me who read all the Hardy Boys books and dreamed of being able to find buried treasure or solve some 200 year old mystery. What one of us would want to own their own island as well as potentially solve some great mystery like on oak island?

It's good to still dream a bit and it's why I metal detect, always hoping that 53 on my AT pro is really a big old gold ring instead of the pull tab it always seems to be.

Why is everyone so down on the best treasure hunting show on TV? I personally enjoy the hell out of it. The possibility of vast wealth and/or priceless historical artifacts has me riveted. It sure beats reruns of the spaz brothers tripping and falling over each other when they find a used razor blade and abbreviating every other word and calling it detecting lingo.

Of course the producers of the Oak Island show are rehashing the whole known story. Should they start at the end? That would be a short show and it wouldn't be on TV until the mystery was solved. They have to educate everyone who is watching and sell ad time. They have to do both. That's the nature of the beast.

The brothers that own the island are doing their due diligence before investing millions in trying to recover the treasure. They dug up the coconut fiber to prove it was there. They didn't just take the rumor as fact. They investigated the location and found what they heard would be there. In the real world of high finance people don't just dump millions with no evidence. If previous attempts had been so methodical perhaps they wouldn't have flooded the shafts and possibly damaged the treasure.

I would love to see them recover the religious artifacts they believe could be hidden there. To see something like that happen in my lifetime would be amazing. I guess I am just a treasure hunter at heart. It isn't all about the destination. Sometimes the journey is the adventure.

 

[itsaring!]

I'd like to see it solved like the next guy. Problem is I'm not getting the solved it vibe watching the episodes. I'm getting the "We lost our ass on this project! How long can we drag this out and recoup some of our money with commercials and reruns?"
That mermaids revealed was revealed right after it was all a hoax. Now it's aired how many times? I'll watch the last episode. But you can tell it's leading up to a letdown. If you google Oak island you can find a couple websites with lots of info and interesting stuff. Like how long there was a feud about ownership, boundaries, etc. That's why the island hasn't been searched properly all these years. These guys still don't own the whole island. And likely the ones they bought some of the property from have sign contracts for percentage of finds, etc.

 

[OleSarge]

I'd like to see it solved like the next guy. Problem is I'm not getting the solved it vibe watching the episodes. I'm getting the "We lost our ass on this project! How long can we drag this out and recoup some of our money with commercials and reruns?"
That mermaids revealed was revealed right after it was all a hoax. Now it's aired how many times? I'll watch the last episode. But you can tell it's leading up to a letdown. If you google Oak island you can find a couple websites with lots of info and interesting stuff. Like how long there was a feud about ownership, boundaries, etc. That's why the island hasn't been searched properly all these years. These guys still don't own the whole island. And likely the ones they bought some of the property from have sign contracts for percentage of finds, etc.

I'll watch it through to the end too. But, I feel a sequel coming on next spring because they will have to shut down the operation because of---(fill in the blank). The Scotsman came with some pretty original ideas and they treated him like he was a claim jumper yet the entire direction of the search changed to follow his idea the minute he was gone. They walked right up to one of the marker stones he described and then got completely side tracked looking for the "mercy" stone even though there are 5 or 6 other stones he described which are high and dry and should be easily located. I find the program interesting too, but I wish they would stop acting like government employees or Congressman in the uncoordinated way they do everything. It would be totally satisfying to me if they did locate the Arc of the Covenent, the Holy Grail, the Sorcer's Stone and the Prince of Narnia..with the Knights Templars return address and the UPS tracking number still attached....But, I don't think that's going to happen.

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[Bayoutalker]

I don't feel they blew the Scotsman off. He left for his own reasons, not theirs. They went to find the mercy stone because that is where he said the treasure would be. I guess they could have looked for more of the other stones to confirm the pattern but what use would that be. They obviously believed enough of his story to investigate the area he suggested.

Whether they solve the mystery or not remains to be seen. I can already see that no matter what the outcome there will be people who will not believe it. If they don't solve the mystery they will be called fakes and if they do, it will be said that they planted the "treasure". No win either way.

I hope they do solve the mystery no matter what the outcome. I would really like to know the answer.

 

[OleSarge]

My reply in regards to the Scotsman was based on the question one guy asked the others at the table meeting "Do you see him (the Scotsman) as a threat"? The reply was "Well, he has his own agenda, and we have ours". He follows up with something to the effect; We have a lot of money and time invested here, we have our own plan, and we can't afford to change ours every time someone comes up with a (implied: hair brained) idea. The premise presented by the Scotsman was that the stones represent a map with intersecting grid lines providing guide points to lead to the location of the treasure cache. Maybe I missed something about the "mercy" stone being the treasure cache or even being located near the treasure cache. Considering that each of the stones is named something alluding to the positions they occupy on a hypothetical (tree) map leading to the glory hole, I wouldn't expect a stone to be of any particular significance simply because it's called the "mercy" stone vs the "cruelty" stone. Personally, I am a proven optimist because I do continue to look for gold, although I find only zinc, and continue to look for gold. Mystery has put the Bermuda Triangle and Machu-Pichu on the map and I love it. Theatrics are great too and I also watch Superman, Batman and the Transformers. That should not be confused with a belief that if I continue to swing my ATP, but continue to find nothing but zincs, I can reasonably expect Superman to suddenly appear and point out deep gold targets using his X-Ray vision. When he does my ATP becomes obsolete and theatrics will trump technology...sadly! The "Curse...I reiterate the word "CURSE" of Oak Island" is a TV mini-series. It is entertainment and primarily relies heavily on the mystery surrounding what will happen during the process of exploring the possibility a treasure cache exists. Whether or not a treasure actually exists is secondary to the drama of who will die next....It is good entertainment and I hope they strike it unimaginably rich, but I'm not ready to commit my ATP or GPP to wading around in their muddy mess just yet.

ATP/GPP/BH Outback/CT hand held

 

[Bayoutalker]

You mean Superman isn't going to come and find gold for me??? Bummer Dude!!

The Scotsman did say something to the effect that the mercy stone was where the treasure or the key to the treasure should be. Of course he interpreted that from codes in Shakespeare works. When it comes to that kind of "code", I am sure someone else could interpret the same info in a totally different way. In the beginning, they did appear very skeptical of him but he must have convinced them that he was on to something since they decided to check out his claim. I will have to go back and watch the episode again to check the details.

Whatever is involved be it wealth ,history, etc. there is some reason for the man made structures in the money pit. I would really like to know what it is.

 

[OleSarge]

You mean Superman isn't going to come and find gold for me??? Bummer Dude!!

The Scotsman did say something to the effect that the mercy stone was where the treasure or the key to the treasure should be. Of course he interpreted that from codes in Shakespeare works. When it comes to that kind of "code", I am sure someone else could interpret the same info in a totally different way. In the beginning, they did appear very skeptical of him but he must have convinced them that he was on to something since they decided to check out his claim. I will have to go back and watch the episode again to check the details.

Whatever is involved be it wealth ,history, etc. there is some reason for the man made structures in the money pit. I would really like to know what it is.

Maybe I missed something also. When I watch TV I usually am on the computer, talking to someone or doing both at the same time. I'm certain that some very interesting events, of remarkable historical importance has taken place on Oak Island. And, while most people would choose the ability to fly as their dream, I would choose the ability to time travel back to places like Oak Island and the pyramids. What a mind feast it would be to just sit back and watch the whole process of whatever ocurred there from beginning to end as a witness rather than a spectator watching it on TV. I totally agree that something stupendous took place there over quite a long period of time and most certainly involved hundreds, if not thousands of people. And, what even deepens the mystery is the fact that there are apparently no surviving records of why, when, who or what they did on the island remains. That is very puzzling because a secret is no longer a secret when the second person learns of it. That leads me to believe that the curse of Oak Island began for those brought to work on the island the instant they arrived rather than affecting those there today. I seriously doubt than any of them ever left to tell or write about what they'd done there.

ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held

 

[itsaring!]

Was it just me? Or when the narrator said there was 10 points on the tree of life and you look and there was 5 in the middle, three on the right, and three on the left. Did you count ten?

 

[OleSarge]

Was it just me? Or when the narrator said there was 10 points on the tree of life and you look and there was 5 in the middle, three on the right, and three on the left. Did you count ten?

Sorry itsaring, I was still trying to digest how we got from the Knights Templar and the Holy Grail to Shakespeare and something that sounded like the abridged Scottish version of the Da Vinci Code. I admit that the possibility did cross my mind that the CTX would locate the treasure and end the program right there. Or, maybe I just caught a 30 second beauty nap and missed it altogether.

ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held

 

[RyanChappell]

Several days ago I had something to say about this TV show. So instead of creating a new thread, I added it to the existing thread.

Were you just too lazy to search and see if there was already a thread? Why is it ok for people to hijack subjects with a new thread? The same thing happened with the thread on bitcoins. Ok if a thread is more than a few months old, it might be appropriate.

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=176754 (STARTED 1/10/2014)

So tonight they drain the swamp, a little bit, and get in there with an expert? with a CTX3030. Before that some guy from Norway figures out a theory that the cross stones are part of a bigger symbol and a key point is in the swamp. The Norwegian takes steel rods and starts hitting stone under the mud about 2-3 feet below the water.

The use of a metal detector in the swamp seems kind of hokey to me, but then again, you could say the same about Diggers... Watch and post what you think!

<Spoiler Alert>

The guy with the CTX is scans the same area with his coil right on the surface of the mud and water and gets a signal that he "definitely thinks is gold." High fives are exchanged.

LOL I don't care what kind of detector you have, there is never a signal that you definitely think is gold. Something big enough to come in 2 feet away from the coil may or may not come in like gold. They are slapping high fives like there is something there.

Fine the signal could be falsing from iron there and that is significant, but you don't act like you found something before you even see it!

Then the guy wades the mud, scans as deep as he can, and gets multiple signals, and they slap high fives again, and of course it ends in a cliff hanger...

 

[itsaring!]

Several days ago I had something to say about this TV show. So instead of creating a new thread. I added it to the existing thread.

Were you just too lazy to search and see if there was already a thread? Why is it ok for people to hijack subjects with a new thread? The same thing happened with the tread on bitcoins.

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=176754

If you don't want to hijack subjects you have to post on one from 2004. "I found my first gold ring" should keep you busy for a long time

 

[RyanChappell]

I admit that the possibility did cross my mind that the CTX would locate the treasure and end the program right there. Or, maybe I just caught a 30 second beauty nap and missed it altogether.
ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held

<Sarcasm>The CTX is amazing! It could identify King Solomon's Menorah from the surface of the swamp water as gold, 2-3 feet away. </Sarcasm> I thought large gold items came in as 12-48 or higher, not 12-19?

Edit -- No detector could do that -- The VDI numbers or tone on any VLF detector depends on depth, size, and conductivity, so any determination is just an estimation or guess.

 

[Bayoutalker]

Was it just me? Or when the narrator said there was 10 points on the tree of life and you look and there was 5 in the middle, three on the right, and three on the left. Did you count ten?

To be honest, I didn't count how many points there were. I was curious what the significance of the other points were if the mercy point was the important one though.

You guys are gonna make me go back and look at that episode again. I don't guess that is such a big thing. There was a lot of information and I am sure we all missed something. Now I know why I recorded it.

 

[Bayoutalker]

Several days ago I had something to say about this TV show. So instead of creating a new thread, I added it to the existing thread.

Were you just too lazy to search and see if there was already a thread? Why is it ok for people to hijack subjects with a new thread? The same thing happened with the tread on bitcoins. Ok if a thread is more than a few months old, it might be appropriate.

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=176754 (STARTED 1/10/2014)

There have been a few threads on this show. http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=177024&highlight=curse+oak+island

This one was started on 1/12/14.

That is they way it goes on forums. A thread is started and it runs it's course until no one is posting on it for a few days. It then works it's way back in the stack until it is a page or two down. When something new occurs, like a new episode, some one who may or may not have been involved in the original one starts a new one.

Do you ALWAYS search for a topic before starting a new thread in case it may have been discussed before? If you do, I would guess you are in the minority.

 

[RyanChappell]

There have been a few threads on this show. http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=177024&highlight=curse+oak+island

This one was started on 1/12/14.

That is they way it goes on forums. A thread is started and it runs it's course until no one is posting on it for a few days. It then works it's way back in the stack until it is a page or two down. When something new occurs, like a new episode, some one who may or may not have been involved in the original one starts a new one.

Do you ALWAYS search for a topic before starting a new thread in case it may have been discussed before? If you do, I would guess you are in the minority.

Yes! I always check to see if there is an existing thread.

In this case, I had a hunch that someone here had probably mentioned the show. Only if there had not been a thread specifically on the show, would I have created a new one.

It is just wrong to start a new thread without even doing a quick search. It is egocentric, fragments the conversation, makes it confusing to refer back to what was said, and hard to check for responses to your posts.

 

[Bayoutalker]

Yes! I always check to see if there is an existing thread.

In this case, I had a hunch that someone here had probably mentioned the show. Only if there had not been a thread specifically on the show, would I have created a new one.

It is just wrong to start a new thread without even doing a quick search. It is egocentric, fragments the conversation, makes it confusing to refer back to what was said, and hard to check for responses to your posts.

I agree with your reasons but that is just not human nature. I see it on many forums for different hobbies that I frequent. Right or wrong it just is. There is no point in getting upset with it, just accept it as the way it is.

 

[OleSarge]

Several days ago I had something to say about this TV show. So instead of creating a new thread, I added it to the existing thread.
Were you just too lazy to search and see if there was already a thread? Why is it ok for people to hijack subjects with a new thread? The same thing happened with the tread on bitcoins. Ok if a thread is more than a few months old, it might be appropriate.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=176754 (STARTED 1/10/2014)

Golly RyanChappel, I certainly didn't mean to give you a cyper wedgie by posting something about a TV program. I checked your link to see if I had inflicted a fatal hijack or had simply strayed across someone elses downed fence. Apparently there was no injury to you, fatal or otherwise, and the downed fence didn't even skirt your property. The link you posted leads to a thread started by CTCurt, not RyanChappel, and true, it was started on 10 January 2014. My thread was indeed started on January 20, 2014 as a means of inquiring about the opinions of other FMDF subscribers regarding a program which I had just watched a preview. CTCURT has 3646 posts on the forum and you have nearly as many with 3173. This is the 2nd time I've heard the term "hijack" a thread in two days and I'm really curious to find where ownership of anything posted on the internet is considered intelleuctual property simply because it's posted on a forum. My suggestion to both you and CTCURT is to stop worrying about a floundering thread by hurling accusations and get back in the spirit of the forum. If your thread is interesting and of some value to the FMDF community you need not worry about it being hijacked, by me or any other "FRIENDLY" Metal Detector Forum member...and I'm not searching through nearly 4000 posts to prevent fracturing your delicate feelings. Simply start a better thread, pack it with some informative, metal detector related material, get off your pompus CTX pedestal and recognize that the purpose of a "forum" is to exchange a lot of ideas shared by many, not dote on the few ideas of a member.

ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held

 

[TwistedTig3r]

Here's a plan. Tie a rock on the old guy and throw him in the pit. That way he finally gets to see what's at the bottom and roughly four minutes later the mystery will be revealed.
Actually, I like the show. It does have some moments that are kinda hokey but are needed to build the story. Such as one part trying to depict the older brother becoming obsessed and falling victim to the " allure and trap" of the island.

 

[RyanChappell]

Golly RyanChappel, I certainly didn't mean to give you a cyper wedgie by posting something about a TV program. I checked your link to see if I had inflicted a fatal hijack

Apparently there was no injury to you, fatal or otherwise, and the downed fence didn't even skirt your property. The link you posted leads to a thread started by CTCurt, not RyanChappel,

The irrelevance speaks for itself.

I'm not searching through nearly 4000 posts to prevent fracturing

Just search "Oak Island" use the quotes, too. The recent ones come to the top.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/search.php?searchid=7720175

your delicate feelings.

get off your pompus CTX pedestal and recognize that the purpose of a "forum" is to exchange a lot of ideas shared by many, not dote on the few ideas of a member. ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held

CTX, I wish!


---edit---added in response to what's below this post---
So basically you knew there was already a thread, but could not resist to the urge to start your own, better because you started it thread, because it wasn't against any rule and you can do whatever you want. Let's create 4 more Curse of Oak Island Threads, that would be great.

 

[Bayoutalker]

A certain amount of any "reality" show has to be hokey just by the nature of the beast. It would be pretty dry to most people if they only aired the facts. The networks know this. That is why there is always some "drama" in reality TV. That is why it is called the Curse Of Oak Island instead of Mystery Of Oak Island. Makes for better TV.

I like the show too and I hope they do reveal some unknown facts even if it is not the final end to the mystery.