Couple first weeks with the Fisher F44, Impressions...

I've seen and heard enough about the F22/F44 to spark interest. But I haven't seen or heard enough to buy one to improve what I already have with my QDP and LRP. They use the same process, and I really like the LRPs meter better. There are some advantages like coil options, but I do quite well with the coils I have. I use the VBreak over the Iron Audio since I just seek out coins and jewelry.

If I could see better ID, I might consider it. But my units have me digging as deep as I want, and other than nickels, IDs hot and hard especially in silver. For $260, I keep up with friends who spent thousands. For those with enough money that's fine. I am a SS recipient and have to budget. But I enjoy hunting as well as the next person.

Nice thread and info BBsGal
 
Fisher F44???

I didn't even know they were coming out with new detectors. What is the big selling point on this one? Just curious since I already have the F2 and F5.

thanks
 
I've seen and heard enough about the F22/F44 to spark interest. But I haven't seen or heard enough to buy one to improve what I already have with my QDP and LRP. They use the same process, and I really like the LRPs meter better. There are some advantages like coil options, but I do quite well with the coils I have. I use the VBreak over the Iron Audio since I just seek out coins and jewelry.

If I could see better ID, I might consider it. But my units have me digging as deep as I want, and other than nickels, IDs hot and hard especially in silver. For $260, I keep up with friends who spent thousands. For those with enough money that's fine. I am a SS recipient and have to budget. But I enjoy hunting as well as the next person.

Nice thread and info BBsGal

Thanks, if I hadn't had the cash on hand it would have been one of those things I would have saved up for since it was a huge upgrade from my little F2. If you're machines work for you there's not a thing in the world wrong with that IMO :yes:

Fisher F44???

I didn't even know they were coming out with new detectors. What is the big selling point on this one? Just curious since I already have the F2 and F5.

thanks

The biggest thing for me, or things, actually, were more possible settings, better depth, and most of all, being weather proof so I can hunt in the rain without an obstructing and clumsy rain hood on the machine. I still love my little F2 but the F44 has completely taken over my time and attention it's so cool.
 
Following your review I felt absolutely compelled to write a reply to it as I am quite honestly astonished .
First of all lets deal with the issue of weight, batteries , wires.
The fisher is nearly double the weight of the XP Deus
The fisher requires you to replace batteries - XP Deus has a built in battery you charge and done have to worry about batteries running out oh and the Deus battery only needs changing about once every 5 years.
programs The XP Deus has 10 built in programs and slots for several more.
The XP Deus has wireless head phones.
The XP Deus has interchangeable coils which can be changed within seconds rather than minutes.

Finally lets talk about the wire which wraps itself around the stem
This is old tech
Have a look at the XP Deus there are no wires

When compared to the XP Deus the Fisher F44 is not worth spending the money on.
You can buy much better cheaper machines have a look online for a shop in England called Regtons and have a look at them metal detectors.
I dont think they would stock the fisher F44 I would be surprised if they did

Whilst I realise you have run out and bought yourself a fisher if you had really had wanted that tech you could have got a very similar machine from china or Japan at least than half the price .

I really do not want to dampen your enthusiasm but be realistic in life we all have choices and given the extra money I would have bought the xp deus every time .
Perhaps I am slightly biased as I have tried both machines I can tell you now with the deus I have found coins at well over 12 inches deep and we are not talking coins that are a 100 years old we are talking coins that are 100's of years old.

I would love to bring my xp deus and go over the ground which you have cleared with your fisher where you think it has now cleared I know I would find something

It has to be a case of you get what you pay for and whilst I agree that your machine may be nice . I would not give it shelf space sorry

:roll: Every heard of apples and oranges? Only one post and this person knows everything; must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.:lol:
 
Thanks, if I hadn't had the cash on hand it would have been one of those things I would have saved up for since it was a huge upgrade from my little F2. If you're machines work for you there's not a thing in the world wrong with that IMO :yes:

For many years, I had just the F5 and the F2. The LRP was nice enough, lighter and actually as deep as my F5, plus it had memory and a few options I liked over the f5. I let the F5 go, but I just can't let the F2 go. It is still a great detector with the NEL Sharpshooter on it for 6" targets especially park hunting. The F44, like the LRP, seems deeper yet uses the same TID numeric scale we got used to in the F5/F2. 1-19 Iron range, 20-59 gold, 60-99 silver. Unlike the 1-39 on Teks and -XX to 0 on most others. I like this range because it allows easier ID for me between, say, nickels and tabs. 34-35 as compared to 37, respectively. I believe the F2 locks onto targets in the gold range slightly better than my LRP. But the LRP is a silver demon at 60 and above.
 
Following your review I felt absolutely compelled to write a reply to it as I am quite honestly astonished .
First of all lets deal with the issue of weight, batteries , wires.
The fisher is nearly double the weight of the XP Deus
The fisher requires you to replace batteries - XP Deus has a built in battery you charge and done have to worry about batteries running out oh and the Deus battery only needs changing about once every 5 years.
programs The XP Deus has 10 built in programs and slots for several more.
The XP Deus has wireless head phones.
The XP Deus has interchangeable coils which can be changed within seconds rather than minutes.

Finally lets talk about the wire which wraps itself around the stem
This is old tech
Have a look at the XP Deus there are no wires

When compared to the XP Deus the Fisher F44 is not worth spending the money on.
You can buy much better cheaper machines have a look online for a shop in England called Regtons and have a look at them metal detectors.
I dont think they would stock the fisher F44 I would be surprised if they did

Whilst I realise you have run out and bought yourself a fisher if you had really had wanted that tech you could have got a very similar machine from china or Japan at least than half the price .

I really do not want to dampen your enthusiasm but be realistic in life we all have choices and given the extra money I would have bought the xp deus every time .
Perhaps I am slightly biased as I have tried both machines I can tell you now with the deus I have found coins at well over 12 inches deep and we are not talking coins that are a 100 years old we are talking coins that are 100's of years old.

I would love to bring my xp deus and go over the ground which you have cleared with your fisher where you think it has now cleared I know I would find something

It has to be a case of you get what you pay for and whilst I agree that your machine may be nice . I would not give it shelf space sorry

Wow...I own a Deus and even I think this post is just stupid. How can you compare a machine that costs nearly 5x as much? Why don't you make another post about how the Bounty Hunter is not as good as a CTX. Furthermore, who asked you for your opinion on the Deus? This thread is about the F44. :roll:
 
guys, this person was a 1 and done.. driveby.
I don't think this person cares about any other responses.
 
Following your review I felt absolutely compelled to write a reply to it as I am quite honestly astonished .
First of all lets deal with the issue of weight, batteries , wires.
The fisher is nearly double the weight of the XP Deus
The fisher requires you to replace batteries - XP Deus has a built in battery you charge and done have to worry about batteries running out oh and the Deus battery only needs changing about once every 5 years.
programs The XP Deus has 10 built in programs and slots for several more.
The XP Deus has wireless head phones.
The XP Deus has interchangeable coils which can be changed within seconds rather than minutes.

Finally lets talk about the wire which wraps itself around the stem
This is old tech
Have a look at the XP Deus there are no wires

When compared to the XP Deus the Fisher F44 is not worth spending the money on.
You can buy much better cheaper machines have a look online for a shop in England called Regtons and have a look at them metal detectors.
I dont think they would stock the fisher F44 I would be surprised if they did

Whilst I realise you have run out and bought yourself a fisher if you had really had wanted that tech you could have got a very similar machine from china or Japan at least than half the price .

I really do not want to dampen your enthusiasm but be realistic in life we all have choices and given the extra money I would have bought the xp deus every time .
Perhaps I am slightly biased as I have tried both machines I can tell you now with the deus I have found coins at well over 12 inches deep and we are not talking coins that are a 100 years old we are talking coins that are 100's of years old.

I would love to bring my xp deus and go over the ground which you have cleared with your fisher where you think it has now cleared I know I would find something

It has to be a case of you get what you pay for and whilst I agree that your machine may be nice . I would not give it shelf space sorry

Your comparing a $350 machine to a $1500 machine? Save your breath!!
 
fisher f44

I really do like this machine. The adjustable iron audio is great. Discing out iron is ok, but hearing it let's me know to consider that the iron may cause the sounds and numbers to be distorting the good stuff.

I haven't had a lot of time with f 44, it is winter here. It seems to be well built. One thing that surprised me was how heavy the coil cable is. It also feels as light as my F2 and perhaps even better balanced. With the ground grab it is very easy to ground balance. It seems to run stable and get a little more depth than the F2. In 4 months spring will be back and I'll be out detecting again.
 
I really do like this machine. The adjustable iron audio is great. Discing out iron is ok, but hearing it let's me know to consider that the iron may cause the sounds and numbers to be distorting the good stuff.

I haven't had a lot of time with f 44, it is winter here. It seems to be well built. One thing that surprised me was how heavy the coil cable is. It also feels as light as my F2 and perhaps even better balanced. With the ground grab it is very easy to ground balance. It seems to run stable and get a little more depth than the F2. In 4 months spring will be back and I'll be out detecting again.

Appreciate this, still debating between the F44 and Whites TreasurePro as my first machine since I have not found any used deals to my liking.
 
Regarding proportional audio on the F44.......... I've discovered that using the VCO tones, you will get the proportional audio. The deeper the target, the quieter the tone. Love it.
 
f44

Bought mine late last fall, then, Minnesota winter. In the Custom mode, you can set up each category with 1 of 5 tones. Bass, low, medium, high or VCO. The VCO tone does modulate with depth. I REALLY like being able to adjust the iron volume. I usually run the volume level at 12. This way I can hear the iron just a little. This is good, to me, for 2 reasons. 1. When relic hunting, where there is iron, there may be relics and coins and the bass iron grunt, which is quiet and therefore easier on the ears, causes me to pay more attention, that there could be goodies here. And, 2. I don't have to discriminate the iron, which can mean missed good targets when close to iron. If I get a jumpy good tone and an iron grunt, I'll probably dig. If iron is disc out, all you get is a jumpy signal that would appear to be trash. Another feature I like is that the ground grab works for both AM mode AND the disc modes. Some detectors ground grab only works while in the AM mode. Examples would be, the F4, Teknetics gamma and omega. Air testing max, inside my house, on a Nickel with sens at 17 gets 11 inches in the AM mode and a positive ID at 9 inches in the Jewelry mode.

In my area, it ground balances at 70-75, with 1-2 bars on the Fe3O4 scale. With that taken into consideration , would a DD coil work better and get better depth?
 
john

DD coils for the most part do NOT get as much depth as concentric's , they do not pinpoint as good and do not discriminate as good IE bottle caps are hard for them and certain kinds of iron.. The only very slight advantage they have is they cover a little bit more ground but that is minute. And can handle super bad ground a little better.
 
F44 and T2 classic

Different machines for sure. T2 is heavier and, sometimes, goes deeper. I'm planning on selling the F44, but every time I take it out, I like it so much. Wife asked me which one I liked better:?: I could not answer. :no: I bought T2 used so I probably wouldn't loose much if I sold it. I think the added features of the F44 put it above any other detector in its price range. Well worth it.
 
Following your review I felt absolutely compelled to write a reply to it as I am quite honestly astonished .
First of all lets deal with the issue of weight, batteries , wires.
The fisher is nearly double the weight of the XP Deus
The fisher requires you to replace batteries - XP Deus has a built in battery you charge and done have to worry about batteries running out oh and the Deus battery only needs changing about once every 5 years.
programs The XP Deus has 10 built in programs and slots for several more.
The XP Deus has wireless head phones.
The XP Deus has interchangeable coils which can be changed within seconds rather than minutes.

Finally lets talk about the wire which wraps itself around the stem
This is old tech
Have a look at the XP Deus there are no wires

When compared to the XP Deus the Fisher F44 is not worth spending the money on.
You can buy much better cheaper machines have a look online for a shop in England called Regtons and have a look at them metal detectors.
I dont think they would stock the fisher F44 I would be surprised if they did

Whilst I realise you have run out and bought yourself a fisher if you had really had wanted that tech you could have got a very similar machine from china or Japan at least than half the price .

I really do not want to dampen your enthusiasm but be realistic in life we all have choices and given the extra money I would have bought the xp deus every time .
Perhaps I am slightly biased as I have tried both machines I can tell you now with the deus I have found coins at well over 12 inches deep and we are not talking coins that are a 100 years old we are talking coins that are 100's of years old.

I would love to bring my xp deus and go over the ground which you have cleared with your fisher where you think it has now cleared I know I would find something

It has to be a case of you get what you pay for and whilst I agree that your machine may be nice . I would not give it shelf space sorry

This is an old thread, but wow what a silly post. You would have to find lots of jars of nickels to cover the extra cost of the Deus. Lots of people enjoy this hobby but do not feel that $1500 for a device to find an occasional silver trinket is a bargain. That is why we use Fishers and Tesoros. Keeps the fun in and the foolishness out. I would say that if your treasure hunting situation makes a Deus a smart tool for you, then more power to you. But why worry about us weekend guys who use $400 detectors.
 
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This is an old thread, but wow what a silly post. You would have to find lots of jars of nickels to cover the extra cost of the Deus. Lots of people enjoy this hobby but do not feel that $1500 for a device to find an occasional silver trinket is a bargain. That is why we use Fishers and Tesoros. Keeps the fun in and the foolishness out.

He was a shill...and a pretty stupid one at that.
 
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