Condensing Threads In Classifieds
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DIRT DOBBER
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Let's not lay all our grievances about what's 'fair' on this thread. I look at the classifieds and scroll through the first two pages and could care less who's on top. I look past the stuff that's there all the time that I'm not buying. I also appreciate the folks that bump my thread every now and again when they think it's too nice an item at too good a price to be several pages back. Complaining about rules is just as likely to get a rule change that you don't want as it is to make things more like you would run it if it were your forum. I've seen more forums go sideways than I care to remember over the sheep getting stirred up when there's no wolf.
Profitable for the mods and admins? Please let us discuss this issue... we listen when we get complaints and we will deal with this issue... Detecto this is the Friendly Forum... honestly we don't care how others run their board we have enough to keep us busy here...
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Why and how would the Mods be making money???????? For what?
Rudy
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We don't relish turning our classifieds into a no fee eBay alternative, nor do we want to be on "the take". Feel free to post your classified items at Treasure Quest if you like. You won't be hurting our feelings if you do...really.
We don't relish turning our classifieds into a no fee eBay alternative, nor do we want to be on "the take". Feel free to post your classified items at Treasure Quest if you like. You won't be hurting our feelings if you do...really.
Great summary, don't profits are the intention, for the forum, or the members, just a friendly exchange. If profit were the goal, there would be registration fee, membership fee, features fee, bonus content fee, photo fee, link fee, fee to start threads, offensive language fees... And there would be people paying them, because the most expensive is always the best, right?
There are a lot of things more valuable in this world, than money, profits, and wealth. Metal detecting, for me, is an adventure. The allure of gold, and hidden treasure makes it exciting, but it's a lot of fun locating something metal under the ground, the guessing and anticipation, as you dig it up. When we find something really nice, or really odd, it's just as fun to share the excitement.
It's just not right to start a coin thread in classifieds, them update the prices hourly, to match the latest melt value. The silver price will change, before the item is shipped or received, changes all the time. We all know how it works...
Jack Flynn
Elite Member
I feel like there is a function of this forum that can make the page bigger or select say first 25 or 50 or 100 for that matter instead of having to go to a second page. I had a forum in this same format several years back and remember something like that. Worth checking into. I like it like it is really. I wouldn't change a thing except the above mentioned.
Gauntlet
Forum Supporter
Probably for the same reason there's no rule that you have to be a forum member longer than three months before requesting changes to the rules.
Seriously though, we really don't want rules against every little thing that irritates us. YMMV.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=99208
DIRT DOBBER
Forum Supporter
Nice catch. You caught a contradiction in my posts. Well, at least you caught me pitching in on suggestions to a rule change. Not requesting one. But close enough. I side with you against me on this one. Nicely done Poirot.
I'm also a Christian who hates church, a Capitalist who hates large corporations, and a simpleton who hates Tesoro. So I guess I'm likely to contradict myself.
Personally I hate extraneous rules but the bleeting uneducated sheep could certainly use a few since the stick is out of fashion......
I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find two in the same thread......
Sick-'em boy!
Cheers,
Bobby
LookingHawk
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that i can understand and agree
Rudy
Admin
An alternative would be to post your price as current melt ± your spread. For example:
Price is today's melt - $1.50.
Then as the commodity prices change your price tracks the index.
GStout76
Forum Supporter
Wow, the guy that this thread was started for comes on here and tries to make it like another forum or a no-fee Ebay... God, what a piece of work. Clearly oblivious....
I like the idea of one or two posts, being updated. I also like the numismatic/precious metal/dug finds idea as well.
I love this forum and it seems that one person in particular continually comes up in almost every sub forum. This community doesn't need the drama of "Treasure Quest" or other such forums being pitched to us. We are all "friendly" and not trying to turn a profit on each other. We are not bargain shopping at "Salvation Army" or "Auctions" trying to see how much we can profit off of other members.
Me, personally, have sold several items that were not dug, but I had many, many extra's and I could sell them to others at a price that was appeasable to me to lose them and also good for the buyer. I usually throw a couple extra surprises in the package ( I know I love it when I find a little extra something in the stocking). I sell because, (like myself in the beginning of my collecting) I know how hard it can be and how many shady people that are are out there trying to make a quick buck of me (HINT, HINT). I like people getting the opportunity to get some cool, old, coins at a decent price and from a trustworthy source. Please don't let the one person ruin our forum. I thought he was amusing at the start, but it really is ruining my taste for this forum seeing posts started in almost every single sub forum and multiples at that.
Sorry rant off and mods, THANK YOU for making and keeping this site great.
Greg
I like the idea of one or two posts, being updated. I also like the numismatic/precious metal/dug finds idea as well.
I love this forum and it seems that one person in particular continually comes up in almost every sub forum. This community doesn't need the drama of "Treasure Quest" or other such forums being pitched to us. We are all "friendly" and not trying to turn a profit on each other. We are not bargain shopping at "Salvation Army" or "Auctions" trying to see how much we can profit off of other members.
Me, personally, have sold several items that were not dug, but I had many, many extra's and I could sell them to others at a price that was appeasable to me to lose them and also good for the buyer. I usually throw a couple extra surprises in the package ( I know I love it when I find a little extra something in the stocking). I sell because, (like myself in the beginning of my collecting) I know how hard it can be and how many shady people that are are out there trying to make a quick buck of me (HINT, HINT). I like people getting the opportunity to get some cool, old, coins at a decent price and from a trustworthy source. Please don't let the one person ruin our forum. I thought he was amusing at the start, but it really is ruining my taste for this forum seeing posts started in almost every single sub forum and multiples at that.
Sorry rant off and mods, THANK YOU for making and keeping this site great.
Greg
351maverick
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I'm new here, but I'm not new to internet forums
I've seen other (automotive based) forums nearly destroyed by the bickering of the members about buying/selling on their site
their rules are ONE for sale listing per member - and ONE bump per day
guys will try to squeeze as much info in the title as they can, but that is car parts, the parts are vast
here there are realy only a few possible things for sale - metal detector, finds or associated equipment - classified titles should be easy
if you have something else to sell that's fine - sell it on Ebay or find a specific forum dealing with your specific wares
yep I'm new, but this seems like a GREAT resource for all of us, I would hate to see it go away
I've seen other (automotive based) forums nearly destroyed by the bickering of the members about buying/selling on their site
their rules are ONE for sale listing per member - and ONE bump per day
guys will try to squeeze as much info in the title as they can, but that is car parts, the parts are vast
here there are realy only a few possible things for sale - metal detector, finds or associated equipment - classified titles should be easy
if you have something else to sell that's fine - sell it on Ebay or find a specific forum dealing with your specific wares
yep I'm new, but this seems like a GREAT resource for all of us, I would hate to see it go away
LookingHawk
Full Member
i tip my hat to you...well said
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I think that there should be some limits and restriction on using this site as a business. The classifieds here, really shouldn't be about turn a profit. The only exception I could think of would people the make things, like accessories, preferably limited to the hobby. There are a lot of sites, where you can wheel and deal, buy and resell. Do we really want to attract new members, who's sole interested, is to get in on these sorts of deals, who have no interest in metal detecting, just a cheap place to buy coin and metal?
I click the 'New Posts' button, rather than go through each section individually. If the focus of the site shifts to the classifieds, that button is rendered useless to me, as I'm rarely interested on the newest deals on coins. The classifieds here were created for the purpose of selling or trading unneeded personal items, which might be of use to another member. It's a fair and reasonable exchange, not for seeking a profit. Just a friendly swap and sell, among people with a common interest. The post requirement, helps ensure that the people dealing, are honest and considerate. Not something you will find on sites that cater to people looking to turn a profit.
It's not that hard to build your own website, there is free hosting (advertisements), and plenty of ways to get the word out. No reason to use this site as your person business site. It also kind of reflects on the integrity of the site, the other members, and the hobby as well. Just doesn't seem like the right place to deal in things that your just bought, with the sole intention to put right back up for sale here.
I click the 'New Posts' button, rather than go through each section individually. If the focus of the site shifts to the classifieds, that button is rendered useless to me, as I'm rarely interested on the newest deals on coins. The classifieds here were created for the purpose of selling or trading unneeded personal items, which might be of use to another member. It's a fair and reasonable exchange, not for seeking a profit. Just a friendly swap and sell, among people with a common interest. The post requirement, helps ensure that the people dealing, are honest and considerate. Not something you will find on sites that cater to people looking to turn a profit.
It's not that hard to build your own website, there is free hosting (advertisements), and plenty of ways to get the word out. No reason to use this site as your person business site. It also kind of reflects on the integrity of the site, the other members, and the hobby as well. Just doesn't seem like the right place to deal in things that your just bought, with the sole intention to put right back up for sale here.
Coin_Master
Moved On
The classified section is an outlet. We make sure people are on here for 30 days and have 100 posts before they are allowed to sell.
If you want to argue that people are trying to turn it into a "no fee eBay", it seems rather short sighted.
Their are all kinds of scammers, thieves, and rotten sellers on eBay. A good amount of them put up a good looking facade but crumble easily when you get right down to it.
If people want to sell their gold, silver, detectors, coins, accessories, then let them.
I actually sell my precious metals and coins here more than anywhere else because it's more trusted to deal with members on this forum.
Do things go sour? Sure they do. In fact people have been trying to scam, lie, cheat and steal since the dawn of time.
Starting your own website is easy, listing it on search engines is easy, but most people have little to no idea how hard it is to drive customers to your website.
What's to say if someone put's up a website selling 1 ounce gold coins for $1700 a pop, sells 100 of them, and then skips town and closes the website?
The reason people are more inclined to buy things here is because us forum members are established. Some people might be a little nervous to buy something from someone the 1st or 2nd time, but once deals work out smooth, you trust that person more.
I've made about at least 100, maybe 150 sales on here. I've had maybe 2 deals go sour, but we were able to make amends and make it right.
If you look at most of the people who sell in the classified section, they have pretty high post counts. Dishonest people are not gonna waste their time on here making 600-1000 posts just to swindle someone out of ten bucks.
So there is a lot of trust between us that makes the classified section much better than eBay or craigslist.
So what if we turn a profit? It's not a sin for someone to make an honest dollar.
If you see something your interested in, so what? We are not gonna twist your arm to buy it. There is no flashing banner on the top that says "HEY BUY MY STUFF".
The reason we bump threads is because if they go to the bottom, and the price needs to change, it reflects that.
People will know that we are selling something, but it it's on page 1 or 2, they will not know that we changed the price, bumping it alerts said person that the price has been updated or the deal has been improved.
If you want to argue that people are trying to turn it into a "no fee eBay", it seems rather short sighted.
Their are all kinds of scammers, thieves, and rotten sellers on eBay. A good amount of them put up a good looking facade but crumble easily when you get right down to it.
If people want to sell their gold, silver, detectors, coins, accessories, then let them.
I actually sell my precious metals and coins here more than anywhere else because it's more trusted to deal with members on this forum.
Do things go sour? Sure they do. In fact people have been trying to scam, lie, cheat and steal since the dawn of time.
Starting your own website is easy, listing it on search engines is easy, but most people have little to no idea how hard it is to drive customers to your website.
What's to say if someone put's up a website selling 1 ounce gold coins for $1700 a pop, sells 100 of them, and then skips town and closes the website?
The reason people are more inclined to buy things here is because us forum members are established. Some people might be a little nervous to buy something from someone the 1st or 2nd time, but once deals work out smooth, you trust that person more.
I've made about at least 100, maybe 150 sales on here. I've had maybe 2 deals go sour, but we were able to make amends and make it right.
If you look at most of the people who sell in the classified section, they have pretty high post counts. Dishonest people are not gonna waste their time on here making 600-1000 posts just to swindle someone out of ten bucks.
So there is a lot of trust between us that makes the classified section much better than eBay or craigslist.
So what if we turn a profit? It's not a sin for someone to make an honest dollar.
If you see something your interested in, so what? We are not gonna twist your arm to buy it. There is no flashing banner on the top that says "HEY BUY MY STUFF".
The reason we bump threads is because if they go to the bottom, and the price needs to change, it reflects that.
People will know that we are selling something, but it it's on page 1 or 2, they will not know that we changed the price, bumping it alerts said person that the price has been updated or the deal has been improved.
You're missing the point.
Stop using the forum to make a living, and stop bumping your posts so other members can have a chance.
Do you get the point now? This is not your forum to do with as you want.
We are not here to help you make an income. What you're doing is considered a "business," so stop it.
We don't want to have to make more new rules limiting amount of threads, but I'm so mad right now I want to just CLOSE that forum!
BTW CM, you can get rid of the stupid signature too. That's considered "advertising."
Stop using the forum to make a living, and stop bumping your posts so other members can have a chance.
Do you get the point now? This is not your forum to do with as you want.
We are not here to help you make an income. What you're doing is considered a "business," so stop it.
We don't want to have to make more new rules limiting amount of threads, but I'm so mad right now I want to just CLOSE that forum!
BTW CM, you can get rid of the stupid signature too. That's considered "advertising."
100-150 sales? Volume speaks for itself. 30 days and 100 posts, is to open a thread, and start selling here, doesn't prevent people (customers) from joining to buy. You like it here, because you don't have the business competition, like on other sites, basically, it's just you. Bump-war with other users... Can't think of a proper response. Most people just want to reduce a little clutter from their lives, stuff that someone here might enjoy, as they have. It's not a store front, for moving product
I'm not implying that you are ripping anyone off, I'm certain people would be very vocal about anything negative. That's not the issue, it's about supporting the hobby of metal detecting, and using this established site, for your personal gain. Pushing everything else aside, so you can turn a profit, where you should be doing it in on a more appropriate site. There are sites, that deal specifically with coins, just like this site is about metal detecting. We dig a lot of coins, don't always know just how much they are worth, as apposed to a coin site.
I'm interested in reading threads about metal detecting, mostly. Some other topics catch my interest as well, but mostly I'm interested in learning what other people are doing, and what they find. It's always good to learn new techniques, fixes, and work arounds. Up to date silver prices isn't all that important, it'll be different tomorrow, or the next day.
I'm not implying that you are ripping anyone off, I'm certain people would be very vocal about anything negative. That's not the issue, it's about supporting the hobby of metal detecting, and using this established site, for your personal gain. Pushing everything else aside, so you can turn a profit, where you should be doing it in on a more appropriate site. There are sites, that deal specifically with coins, just like this site is about metal detecting. We dig a lot of coins, don't always know just how much they are worth, as apposed to a coin site.
I'm interested in reading threads about metal detecting, mostly. Some other topics catch my interest as well, but mostly I'm interested in learning what other people are doing, and what they find. It's always good to learn new techniques, fixes, and work arounds. Up to date silver prices isn't all that important, it'll be different tomorrow, or the next day.
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