Check this out(beach hunters, relic hunters, etc)

[tnsharpshooter]

I think it is pulse detector.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8sdp4RG73g&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

Have read where this tech is being worked for actual release to public.
Can't say exactly how reliable the info is.
But I do see some thing in the video I like!!

Here is where I read initally about this detector/tech.
http://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,1072

 

[metaladdict]

Sounds like a pulse machine.Unique squeaks for sure.
At least it doesn't sound like a rubber duck Deus.

 

[diggindaboot]

I think it is pulse detector.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8sdp4RG73g&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

Have read where this tech is being worked for actual release to public.
Can't say exactly how reliable the info is.
But I do see some thing in the video I like!!

That tech now belongs to Fisher. If they could put a screen on that detector , yikes. That is why we haven't seen anything lately from Fisher. I think they want to explore this tech and see what kind of machines they can build. My guess is and it's just a guess, is that Fisher would like to build at least a couple of iterations of the Manta.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

That tech now belongs to Fisher. If they could put a screen on that detector , yikes. That is why we haven't seen anything lately from Fisher. I think they want to explore this tech and see what kind of machines they can build. My guess is and it's just a guess, is that Fisher would like to build at least a couple of iterations of the Manta.

I wouldn't go so far as the tech belongs solely to First Texas.

Plus, this might be the reason (one of them them) why First Texas seems is liquidating its assets detector wise.
To gain loot for investment for further devleopment/manufacturing of a new rig.
And I am not saying the above to be negative towards First Texas.
Someone I notice in metal detector land has returned from abroad, just recently.
Related here??
This person did make comments too, that makes one wonder.
Not outright comments either, but enough to maybe allow a person to read between the lines.

I consider Equinox a shot across the bow.
Could we have another shot across the bow soon?

Gotta love it!!

 

[diggindaboot]

I wouldn't go so far as the tech belongs solely to First Texas.

Plus, this might be the reason (one of them them) why First Texas seems is liquidating its assets detector wise.
To gain loot for investment for further devleopment/manufacturing of a new rig.
And I am not saying the above to be negative towards First Texas.
Someone I notice in metal detector land has returned from abroad, just recently.
Related here??
This person did make comments too, that makes one wonder.
Not outright comments either, but enough to maybe allow a person to read between the lines.

I consider Equinox a shot across the bow.
Could we have another shot across the bow soon?

Gotta love it!!

Didn't Fisher hire the guy behind the Manta ?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Didn't Fisher hire the guy behind the Manta ?

I don't know.
But even if they did, this doesn't mean Fisher has all the rights/ownership.

Now if Fisher declares this as so.
Then I can beleive.

First Texas may indeed market.

Folks should be checking up on patents.
We might see some thing that helps us understand this tech, even a little bit.
Question is, whose patent is it if done.
Might make finding difficult.

Could be patent pending too.

 

[diggindaboot]

I don't know.
But even if they did, this doesn't mean Fisher has all the rights/ownership.

Now if Fisher declares this as so.
Then I can beleive.

First Texas may indeed market.

Folks should be checking up on patents.
We might see some thing that helps us understand this tech, even a little bit.
Question is, whose patent is it if done.
Might make finding difficult.

Could be patent pending too.

Between the Manta guy and the current engineers at FT , Fisher could be on the verge of some new innovative detectors. That would be a huge plus for everyone. BTW, I watched that video about a month ago. Was telling my buddy who has the CTX about it. Like me he would prefer to have a screen on it. That would appear to be the biggest challenge.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Between the Manta guy and the current engineers at FT , Fisher could be on the verge of some new innovative detectors. That would be a huge plus for everyone. BTW, I watched that video about a month ago. Was telling my buddy who has the CTX about it. Like me he would prefer to have a screen on it. That would appear to be the biggest challenge.

That particular detector, operating in beach environment, even black sand, and for relic Hunter hunting in higher minerlized ground.

Meter unimportant. (Although would be nice)
Just detecting (getting a signal) on nonferrous and being able to discern ferrous tonally= Supreme.
A PI separating with Vlf like performance.
Would sell like hotcakes!! Depending on price of course.
Weight needs to be managed to the lighter side of the house.
And be waterproof!!!!
We may get to see.

Could be a lot of ATXers/Gpxers/TDIers/CTXers etc would jump ship!!

Imagine if this detector could be had for a mere $1500 bucks.
Would it sell?
IMO loads.

Lots of speculation about a future hybrid PI/Vlf unit by many folks.
Maybe this here will do for now.

 

[diggindaboot]

That particular detector, operating in beach environment, even black sand, and for relic Hunter hunting in higher minerlized ground.

Meter unimportant.
Just detecting (getting a signal) on nonferrous and being able to discern ferrous tonally= Supreme.
Would sell like hotcakes!! Depending on price of course.
Weight needs to be managed to the lighter side of the house.

We may get to see.

Could be a lot of ATXers/Gpxers/TDIers/CTXers etc would jump ship!!

Imagine if this detector could be had for a mere $1500 bucks.
Would it sell?
IMO loads.

BUT, if it had a meter more would sell imo. Folks now days are used to having a screen. IMO, that's one of the reasons the CTX is the detector of choice for a lot of beach hunters. Pinpoint, screen, saltwater doesn't cause falsing. 1500 bucks, me thinks you would be one of the first in line. You're correct, FT would sell a lot of them. I for one would welcome new technology.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

BUT, if it had a meter more would sell imo. Folks now days are used to having a screen. IMO, that's one of the reasons the CTX is the detector of choice for a lot of beach hunters. Pinpoint, screen, saltwater doesn't cause falsing. 1500 bucks, me thinks you would be one of the first in line. You're correct, FT would sell a lot of them. I for one would welcome new technology.

I don't think the screen is why folks love CTX for beach hunting- gold depending on size can come in at lots of conductivy readings.
Rather its waterproofing, stability, discrimination capabilities.
And for dual purpose say beach hunting and dry land coin hunting.

For instance, wonder if Minelab would have released a CTX like they did- with screen for the price they did.
And wonder if they would have released a CTX just like the one they did, but no TiD numbers displayed period, but with tonal adjustment based on conductivy of target.
But this detector would have been priced at $1000.
Think Minelab would have sold any of these???

Now if silver coinage or silver jewelry didn't exist I would agree with you.

Maybe I need to ask here.
Beach hunters, "Are you passing on higher conductive meter reading targets while beach hunting"??

On a beach in Florida, any nonferrous target could be a tremendous find!!

And imagine if Minelab would have engineered where this $1000 detector could have had screen, or allowed tid to be added for a price through accessory add on purchase.

Minelab sure could have reached more of the detecting public this way IMO.
But here comes the Equinox.
So water under the bridge.

Detector manufacturer mindset should be.
Not everyone can afford a Ferrari.
Not everyone can afford a BMW, but more can afford BMW vs a Ferrari.
So get folks into a BMW, and with time folks may be able to go to Ferrari status.

I think Minelab understands this now,
Hence Equinox 600 and Equinox 800 models.

 

[diggindaboot]

I don't think the screen is why folks love CTX for beach hunting- gold depending on size can come in at lots of conductivy readings.
Rather its waterproofing, stability, discrimination capabilities.
And for dual purpose say beach hunting and dry land coin hunting.

For instance, wonder if Minelab would have released a CTX like they did- with screen for the price they did.
And wonder if they would have released a CTX just like the one they did, but no TiD numbers displayed period, but with tonal adjustment based on conductivy of target.
But this detector would have been priced at $1000.
Think Minelab would have sold any of these???

Now if silver coinage or silver jewelry didn't exist I would agree with you.

Maybe I need to ask here.
Beach hunters, "Are you passing on higher conductive meter reading targets while beach hunting"??

On a beach in Florida, any nonferrous target could be a tremendous find!!

And imagine if Minelab would have engineered where this $1000 detector could have had screen, or allowed tid to be added for a price through accessory add on purchase.

Minelab sure could have reached more of the detecting public this way IMO.
But here comes the Equinox.
So water under the bridge.

The benefit of having the screen is my buddy can avoid trash more frequently. Always a plus. Nox looks good but no way will it equal the depth of the Manta. And so it goes TNSS, there won't ever be JUST THAT ONE DETECTOR. Besides we all would get bored over time if we had just one detector, wouldn't we ? As humans we love variety.

 

[Mountain Mike]

I would have liked to see them run the ctx over that 16" deep ring. I wonder if it would have picked it up. If it did hit it I wonder if it would have called it iron.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

The benefit of having the screen is my buddy can avoid trash more frequently. Always a plus. Nox looks good but no way will it equal the depth of the Manta. And so it goes TNSS, there won't ever be JUST THAT ONE DETECTOR. Besides we all would get bored over time if we had just one detector, wouldn't we ? As humans we love variety.

Equinox
Why was it priced like it was??

I sure don't expect this gadget above if it does perform to be priced the same or cheaper than Equinox.

Sure the pulse will be deeper.

Folks will have choices.
And maybe this unit will not be a $2500 plus boat anchor weight detector.
I have been waiting for someone to challenge Minelab with a pulse unit.
Could this be it??

The Equinox is not the detector line to be shaking in their boots.

Rather other lines.
At the very least this could wipe TDI series off the map.
Need to see how deep and how sensitive this outfit is.

 

[diggindaboot]

Equinox
Why was it priced like it was??

I sure don't expect this gadget above if it does perform to be priced the same or cheaper than Equinox.

Sure the pulse will be deeper.

Folks will have choices.
And maybe this unit will not be a $2500 plus boat anchor weight detector.
I have been waiting for someone to challenge Minelab with a pulse unit.
Could this be it??

The Equinox is not the detector line to be shaking in their boots.

Rather other lines.

If it performs better, that would make it better and likely more expensive. It's a different animal than the Nox. That said , what if FT can use that tech and make something better than the Nox, not that we know if the Nox is good yet or not. I still say the Walabot tech will be the future of midline detectors.

 

[TabZilla]

BUT, if it had a meter more would sell imo. Folks now days are used to having a screen. IMO, that's one of the reasons the CTX is the detector of choice for a lot of beach hunters. Pinpoint, screen, saltwater doesn't cause falsing. 1500 bucks, me thinks you would be one of the first in line. You're correct, FT would sell a lot of them. I for one would welcome new technology.

I love that so many rely on screens and tones.
The last two gold rings i dug were each within a foot of a plug that someone made. They were both bent up and probably had bouncy ID.
They both had that 'treasure' sound on my tesoro.

Seems like as i see more folks out detecting with TVs on a stick the more gold is left behind for me!

 

[tnsharpshooter]

If it performs better, that would make it better and likely more expensive. It's a different animal than the Nox. That said , what if FT can use that tech and make something better than the Nox, not that we know if the Nox is good yet or not. I still say the Walabot tech will be the future of midline detectors.

I hope if this detector is coming, FT knocks it out of the park!!

Actually I hope all maufacturers do!!

Remember the gas wars back when.

We have a detector war of sorts happening.

I would love to sit in on the boardroom meetings happening as of late.
Would prove interesting.

 

[diggindaboot]

I love that so many rely on screens and tones.
The last two gold rings i dug were each within a foot of a plug that someone made. They were both bent up and probably had bouncy ID.
They both had that 'treasure' sound on my tesoro.

Seems like as i see more folks out detecting with TVs on a stick the more gold is left behind for me!

That tv on a stick thing is the future.

 

[diggindaboot]

I hope if this detector is coming, FT knocks it out of the park!!

Actually I hope all maufacturers do!!

Remember the gas wars back when.

We have a detector war of sorts happening.

I would love to sit in on the boardroom meetings happening as of late.
Would prove interesting.

High tech is expensive in the developing stages. Then it goes cheap. See TV's. Same could happen for detectors.

 

[TabZilla]

They are indeed the future.
Just doesn't mean they find more stuff.
So many rely on the number or tone and don't realize that
the majority of gold jewelry isnt going to give you a steady ID.
Sure the perfectly round wedding band will, but add a large stone setting
or a crucifix pendant and its gonna ID all over the place.

The manta project definitely is promising.
I just hope its pulse delay will be low enough to hit gold chains.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

High tech is expensive in the developing stages. Then it goes cheap. See TV's. Same could happen for detectors.

And how much did these babies cost back then??
And who could afford?


https://clickamericana.com/topics/food-drink/introducing-the-microwave-oven-1971

And this.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-a-stereo-VCR-cost-in-the-1980s

And now, beta machine a $2300 door stop. Lol