Best Day Ever....900 year-old pocket spill!!

coins strung together on a string... to secure them to their owner

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the Chinese even to this day continue to be so... practical
 
Amazing...A shame they're too cheap over there to have minted silver or gold coins.

Edit, since it's so horrible what I said: I meant a shame they didn't make silver pennies like they had in Europe at the time. Seems every time someone in England posts the lowest denomination of a coin back in 1000 AD it's a silver penny, and is sometimes cut into shreds. Silver holds up better, only reason I made the comment. Love how I get labeled racist for that though. Thanks!
 
Amazing...A shame they're too cheap over there to have minted silver or gold coins.

There were plenty of those minted as well...I just haven't found many yet. And Bonesquat...some may take offense to the way you speak. Asian people cheap? Guess you don't travel much eh. :roll:
 
:wow: Wow! That is quite a find!! Congrats! I have a coin I believe came from the Song Dynasty or was it the Tang? However my professor gave his students each a coin since he had plenty, he had a huge collection.
 
Amazing...A shame they're too cheap over there to have minted silver or gold coins.

The real shame is how little many Americans know of other cultures and immediately assume that, somehow, ours is better.

Here is a Japanese 100,000 ¥ gold coin.
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Here is another Japanese gold coin.
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Wow I guess we need some no more tears shampoo.

I said nothing about the Japanese people. Every country makes crappy coins. I have NOTHING against Asians btw buddy. I'm dating a Korean. And yes, I knew they made gold coins and such. I'm just saying it's a shame the ones you found weren't silver or something else. Still better than anything I'll ever find and that's why I said amazing. Seems like ANY coin found in Europe from that long ago is always silver.

Sorry ancient Japan made those coins and I commented on their quality. And yes I misworded my post. Great finds again.
 

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Amazing...A shame they're too cheap over there to have minted silver or gold coins.

Edit, since it's so horrible what I said: I meant a shame they didn't make silver pennies like they had in Europe at the time. Seems every time someone in England posts the lowest denomination of a coin back in 1000 AD it's a silver penny, and is sometimes cut into shreds. Silver holds up better, only reason I made the comment. Love how I get labeled racist for that though. Thanks!

Wow I guess we need some no more tears shampoo. I said nothing about the Japanese people. Every country makes crappy coins. I have NOTHING against Asians btw buddy. I'm dating a Korean. And yes, I knew they made gold coins and such. I'm just saying it's a shame the ones you found weren't silver or something else. Still better than anything I'll ever find and that's why I said amazing. Seems like ANY coin found in Europe from that long ago is always silver.

Sorry ancient Japan made those coins and I commented on their quality. And yes I misworded my post. Great finds again.

We knew what you meant. Apparently there is some sensitivity to a stereotype revolving around the "cheap" word.

Saying "It is too bad silver was too scarce for their lower denomination coins." is exactly what you meant. Maybe their emperors did a better job of keeping the gold and silver coins to themselves too.

I was going to mention that you have a particular love for that of the far east. Very particular, that is, as in one particular female.
 
We knew what you meant. Apparently there is some sensitivity to a stereotype revolving around the "cheap" word.

Saying "It is too bad silver was too scarce for their lower denomination coins." is exactly what you meant. Maybe their emperors did a better job of keeping the gold and silver coins to themselves too.

I was going to mention that you have a particular love for that of the far east. Very particular, that is, as in one particular female.

Thanks Chappell. You said it better than I could.

Once again Stewart, awesome find.
 
They are great finds. I certainly didn't think Rick (Bonesquat) was being racist when he commented. The same thing can be said of our crappy zincolns. To me that is where he was going with that. Rick and I are alot alike on the way we post comments. Most of the time they are fine. Once in a while we tick someone off. Rick has been on here for awhile. He wouldn't purposely offend anyone...
 
Wow I guess we need some no more tears shampoo.

I said nothing about the Japanese people. Every country makes crappy coins. I have NOTHING against Asians btw buddy. I'm dating a Korean. And yes, I knew they made gold coins and such. I'm just saying it's a shame the ones you found weren't silver or something else. Still better than anything I'll ever find and that's why I said amazing. Seems like ANY coin found in Europe from that long ago is always silver.

Sorry ancient Japan made those coins and I commented on their quality. And yes I misworded my post. Great finds again.

If you weren't alluding to the Japanese, then you must have been referring to the Chinese, my bad. Here are some old Chinese gold coins.

Ying Cheng gold coin from the capital of the Chu State.
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This one is from the Chinese Republic.
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These ‘Sheng xiao’ or the Chinese Zodiac coins as they are known in English are a well recognized tradition in Chinese culture. This unique coin was formed and passed down, dating back to the Han Dynasty, around 200BC. Beautiful workmanship.
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If you weren't alluding to the Japanese, then you must have been referring to the Chinese, my bad. Here are some old Chinese gold coins.

Ying Cheng gold coin from the capital of the Chu State.
Gold-coins.jpg


This one is from the Chinese Republic.
china_republic_gold_dollar.jpg


These ‘Sheng xiao’ or the Chinese Zodiac coins as they are known in English are a well recognized tradition in Chinese culture. This unique coin was formed and passed down, dating back to the Han Dynasty, around 200BC. Beautiful workmanship.
Chinese_gold_coin_dragon.jpg

Neato torpedo Rudy. Wouldn't mind finding one of those in the dirt.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again

I get excited over a 50 year old wheat penny, I think I would run around naked in a field whooping and hollering if I ever found anything like that!!!

Anyone near the treasure coast beware if I ever find something!!!!


CONGRATS!!!!
 
Good questions...I'm not sure about the answers though. ;) It is also odd that, as far as I can tell, each coin is different. Usually when you find a group of those kind of coins together they are of the same type. Perhaps this was somebody's little collection? I guess I'll never know but it's fun trying to imagine the circumstances long, long ago. :yes:

It wont be a collection. Its a genuine pocket spill. Chinese coins were in circulation continuously until the 1630`s, this includes all those old coins, all mixed together. About mid 1630, they became non-legal tender. There were a variety of different coins available in Japan before the 1600`s. Some Japanese made, some Chinese and some from Annan (Vietnam). Even within the Japanese coins from this period there was a considerable variety of styles; Shichusen, bitasen, clan coins and trade coins. All of them were given the officail denomination of one mon, regardless. In reality it could often be somewhat different, with vendors refusing to accept coins that were unpopular or copies (shichusen). Chinese coins were dominant and higher quality, but they were used for centuries, literally. One chinese coin could be in circulation for 400 years.

The importation of Chinese coinage to Japan by the governments at the time started from the 12th century.

Nice find. And its good to see some other relic hunters in Japan having some success. If you`re in Kyoto, near old temples, even the trails will have a protection order, so don`t be too obvious:grin:
 
It wont be a collection. Its a genuine pocket spill. Chinese coins were in circulation continuously until the 1630`s, this includes all those old coins, all mixed together. About mid 1630, they became non-legal tender. There were a variety of different coins available in Japan before the 1600`s. Some Japanese made, some Chinese and some from Annan (Vietnam). Even within the Japanese coins from this period there was a considerable variety of styles; Shichusen, bitasen, clan coins and trade coins. All of them were given the officail denomination of one mon, regardless. In reality it could often be somewhat different, with vendors refusing to accept coins that were unpopular or copies (shichusen). Chinese coins were dominant and higher quality, but they were used for centuries, literally. One chinese coin could be in circulation for 400 years.

The importation of Chinese coinage to Japan by the governments at the time started from the 12th century.

Nice find. And its good to see some other relic hunters in Japan having some success. If you`re in Kyoto, near old temples, even the trails will have a protection order, so don`t be too obvious:grin:

Thanks for the info Kiwisan! Very interesting. I never actually hunt 'near' temples; this trail runs from Yamashina over the mountain to Kyoto and many people use it to walk from Bishamondo to Nanzenji. At no point was I less than half a kilometre from either. :D
 
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