Ok, great. He wasn't trespassing. Now we're getting somewhere.
”We’re” not getting anywhere. Most of us have been there since the 3rd or 4th post.
And where is that that we're "getting" ? It's to the definition of what's ok to do, in locations where a person is not "trespassing". Agreed ?
No. It’s what one can do on property for which they have NO permission to detect, versus what one can do on property where they have spoken with the owner(s) and have obtained permission. No matter how hard you try to spin it, no rationally thinking person would agree with you that taking a picture is no different than md’ing, and removing objects that you have located. You do know that when you take a photo, the “thing” that you took the picture of is still there when you’re done, yes? It isn’t physically removed. It doesn’t disappear. You’re not physically taking it home with you, secretly tucked away in your camera.
It most certainly was your definition. Refer to post #30
Referring me back to a post where you claim it is my definition, does not, ipso facto, make it my definition. Seriously, what is wrong with you?
Ok, let's go with this set of definitions. Then you would agree that you, as an md'r , is in violation of laws for parks, beaches, etc... that forbid harvest/remove.
I think we’ve sorta covered this ground in other threads. Regardless, I’ll answer it again here, for those who haven’t been following our exploits on the forum.
I cannot answer the question definitively because, unlike you, I don’t pretend to know everything. Ultimately though, I guess it would eventually be up to the Courts to decide.
When the md'r takes the 1913 nickel from that park or beach. Right ? If so, then yes, I agree that .... likewise ... is it equally as terrible for him to remove the 1913 nickel from where he (in your words) wasn't trespassing. Agreed ?
Context…you must try to keep things in context. I know it’s a struggle for you, since more than anything else you want…no you NEED to be right, but context is vitally important. Your ability to take things out of context is impressive, I’ll grant you that. This whole thread, and all of my posts therein (except, of course, where I have been defending myself against your attempts to put words into my mouth), have been about nothing more than if it’s ok to detect and to remove objects from private property, where you have not obtained permission to do either.
Nonetheless, I’ll do my best to answer your hypothetical beach question. If it is illegal to detect on whatever beach you’re talking about, then it would not only be “terrible” for him to remove the nickel…it would be a violation of the law. If, however, there are no rules/regulations/laws prohibiting md’ing, then…well…then good for him, he’s now a rich man.