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I’ve seen it before,and I’m sure I’ll see it again.And it’s just what happens.Deja vu I mean.lol.
In 2010 Garrett unveiled and released the at pro.All purpose waterproof machine.People were swearing it was the best machine going,compared it to the Etrac thousands of times.So many swore it was the best machine out,better than not just the Etrac but the F75ltd2,v3i,Yada yada .
What the at pro is ,is a multi purpose machine.Good at a lot of things but not really excelling at one thing in particular when compared to other high end machines made to excell at one thing.
Not as good as the Etrac on old coins,not as deep as a F75ltd2 for old relics,Not as much information as to what’s in the ground as a v3i.
Now comes the equinox,deja vu...Good enough Machine,no doubt and I have the 600 along with the at pro.But the equinox is a all purpose waterproof machine as well.Good at a lot of things but don’t excell at one thing in general like a high end machine.
So the at pro was debated for years against the Etrac,and now the equinox is being compared to the 3030.Apples and oranges comparisons for the at pro vs Etrac and the equinox vs the 3030...Etrac and the 3030 are high priced high end machines that excell at one thing like no other,deep old coins.Equinox and at pro are jack of all trade machines,good at a little bit of everything but excell at nothing compared to a machine dedicated to one thing.
METAL detectorists are always looking for a deeper machine,EXPERIENCED detectorists are looking for new ground and places to hunt.Big difference.Which category do you fall into,Cant have it both ways.
I buy and try a lot of machines,just to try them with no plans on keeping them.I like and use the at pro because it’s my machine of choice no matter what machines I have,the At pro would be the last one going out the door..Not because it’s better because it doesn’t excell at any one thing,but because I prefer it as my MULTI purpose machine.And when a site stops producing I find another site,not find another detector to try to find a few things the at pro missed.
 
You seem to be trying to draw parallels to the pro and Nox.


Nice try.
Won’t work with me.
Equinox is a top notch low conductor hunter. Few other models deeper on them.
Handles higher mineral ground.
ID more dependable at depths, even in higher mineral ground.
Can handle salt water.

Yeah, the 600 detector can be compared to the at max (because they cost similar.

The real question is do they perform similar??
I think I know the answer.
Won’t say.

Gent named relichead here posted yesterday.
Here’s what he said.

https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=267742

And any person who was comparing the pro to the Etrac saying the Pro was as deep as Etrac.
Needs to put down their BONG. Or send in their defective Etrac.
I know you won’t believe this Woody.
But I believe Equinox is in a class all by itself.
In more ways than one.

Woody.
Minelab knew exactly what they wanted, where they wanted to go, and which detector models they wanted to target to enhance their overall market share.

There was even a slide show given to dealers conference in USA by Minelab.
Guess which 3 models I saw in a leaked in a pic were on the slideshow?
Deus and At Pro, and the AT Max were listed for comparison.
I may try to find the post that showed.

So, you might as well accept Equinox for what it is.

See page 3,this link for pic. Minelab partners conference held in USA.
https://www.detectorprospector.com/...b-partners-conference-starts-tomorrow/?page=3
 
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I said when they first came out, it obsoleted everything. I stand by that even over higher end machines because of one factor. PRICE , for what you get and what you can do with it. A few machines have a few more bells and whistles that can enhance recovery, but to me having owned all them it just is not worth paying for the bells and whistles. Do i still have lots of machines yes. Why because i never met a detector i didn't like in some way lol. But if i had to get rid of all but one, i would keep my NOX.
 
Hey Woody.
Think about this.

I can take a Equinox and dig signals reading from 7-14 and I will eventually cash in with gold of some kind—ring.

If Intry to take a Deus any coil and do the same I am SOL.
Why.
Cause the Deus will up average the small stuff deeper hence ID is shot so i’ll have to dig all the small foil and small aluminum when looking for most gold rings.

The pros ID will become jumpy on the smaller junk and i’ll Have to dig it too.

Equinox can ID a ring deep!!!
Like 9” plus deep in my soil.
In mild stuff like about a foot.
Think about that.

So digging those signals reading 7-14 opens a Nox user up to 3cent made of nickel, gold $1 coin, rings, etc.
Yeah you’ll still dig junk. But odds wise I think Nox rocks.

Now, CTX, Etrac, explorers. If a gold ring gets near iron, it may not be detected period odds wise vs Nox, and its ID can be skewed big time vs Nox.

I don’t think a lot of Nox owners have honed in with their new detector.ps.
Given time they will be.
And the gold rings will be dug like no tomorrow.

Walk right by those clean hit 1s, 2s, 3s,4s p, 5s and 6s using Nox. Leave them so the Deus user can waste their time digging as well as the pro users. Lol
You see if they are digging junk they are not digging gold rings.
 
tnsharpshooter said:
You seem to be trying to draw parallels to the pro and Nox.


Nice try.
Won’t work with me.
Equinox is a top notch low conductor hunter. Few other models deeper on them.
Handles higher ground.
ID more dependable at depths, even in higher mineral ground.
Can handle salt water.

Yeah, the 600 detector can be compared to the at max (because they cost similar.

The real question is do they perform similar??
I think I know the answer.
Won’t say.

Gent named relichead here posted yesterday.
Here’s what he said.

https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=267742

And any person who was comparing the pro to the Etrac saying the Pro was as deep as Etrac.
Needs to put down their BONG. Or send in their defective Etrac.
I know you won’t believe this Woody.
But I believe Equinox is in a class all by itself.
In more ways than one.

Woody.
Minelab knew exactly what they wanted, where they wanted to go, and which detector models they wanted to target to enhance their overall market share.

There was even a slide show given to dealers conference in USA by Minelab.
Guess which 3 models I saw in a leaked in a pic were on the slideshow?
Deus and At Pro, and the AT Max were listed for comparison.
I may try to find the post that showed.

So, you might as well accept Equinox for what it is.

See page 3,this link for pic. Minelab partners conference held in USA.
https://www.detectorprospector.com/...b-partners-conference-starts-tomorrow/?page=3
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Good opinions,but way off track from my post
 
tnsharpshooter said:
Hey Woody.
Think about this.

I can take a Equinox and dig signals reading from 7-14 and I will eventually cash in with gold of some kind—ring.

If Intry to take a Deus any coil and do the same I am SOL.
Why.
Cause the Deus will up average the small stuff deeper hence ID is shot so i’ll have to dig all the small foil and small aluminum when looking for most gold rings.

The pros ID will become jumpy on the smaller junk and i’ll Have to dig it too.

Equinox can ID a ring deep!!!
Like 9” plus deep in my soil.
In mild stuff like about a foot.
Think about that.

So digging those signals reading 7-14 opens a Nox user up to 3cent naked of nickel, gold $1 coin, rings, etc.
Yeah you’ll still dig junk. But odds wise I think Nox rocks.

Now, CTX, Etrac, explorers. If a gold ring gets near iron, it may not be detected period odds wise vs Nox, and its ID can be skewed big time vs Nox.

I don’t think a lot of Nox owners have honed in with their new detector.ps.
Given time they will be.
And the gold rings will be dug like no tomorrow.
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If your talking low conductor's,and digging by ID like you say from 7 to 14 then a High frequency gold detector will out pace the equinox,no question..Because that is what that machines intended sole purpose of is,,equinox is a multi purpose machine ,don't Excell against a machine made to specifically target that type of metal
 
woodbutcher said:
If your talking low conductor's,and digging by ID like you say from 7 to 14 then a High frequency gold detector will out pace the equinox,no question..Because that is what that machines intended sole purpose of is,,equinox is a multi purpose machine ,don't Excell against a machine made to specifically target that type of metal
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Woody.
I have a Deus that can run at 28khz, 54khz, 74khz.
You take to park dig rings.
Good luck.
You’ll be digging junk like no tomorrow.
Wonder how I know this??
Guess.

Knowing what I know about Nox.
If I went to a park that was fbs or fbs 2 busted hard many times.
I would take Nox and be on a search and destroy mission for gold rings.
Screw the silver.
Won’t be much there anyway.
Dig all the 7-14 signals and roll on. Using park 2.
Open 800 unit tonally in 6-15 region and rock and roll.
 
I can go back and forth all day,at the end of it the equinox,at pro,kruzer,quest pro,they're all just multi purpose machines that are Jack of all trades..you wanna say the equinox is the best at being a jack of all trades and master of none,fine I agree..but that don't make it stack up anywhere near a machine that was specifically made to Excell at one thing.No multipurpose machine does for that matter,equinox is just another iron in the fire of that party
 
woodbutcher said:
I can go back and forth all day,at the end of it the equinox,at pro,kruzer,quest pro,they're all just multi purpose machines that are Jack of all trades..you wanna say the equinox is the best at being a jack of all trades and master of none,fine I agree..but that don't make it stack up anywhere near a machine that was specifically made to Excell at one thing.No multipurpose machine does for that matter,equinox is just another iron in the fire of that party
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Woody,
You have a hard time drawing a distinction between a Hf detector that detects lower conductors and one like the Nox that both detects and accurately I.Ds them at depth.

Time is everything when it comes to detecting.

The why behind why so much silver and copper was found with fbs and fbs 2 Detectors.

The white’s And fishers users were digging junk,
The minelabbers were digging silver and copper, deep too.

Apply lower conductors to Nox as you would apply higher conductors to fbs/fbs2 units. You won’t go wrong.

I will do a video.
Simple test.
Will use Nox and Deus both Hf and LF coils. 11” LF coil and 9” Hf coil.
The test will be.
I will cut off a piece of aluminum can, a piece that reads 6 on airtest with Nox.
I will bury a varying depths and compare the detectors (coils).
And we’ll see what happens.
Which detector will accurately ID the target the deepest.
And just how shallow does the target have to be when the Deus ID goes bonkers.
Will be a fair test and I will even run reactivity down to levels 1 and 2 to check.

You see a lot of folks hopped on the train involving Nox iding higher conductive coins. They haven’t thought or realized Nox best strength here is IDing lower conductors.

The fact women generally wore more rings vs men, hence more were lost generally means smaller rings generally hence the 7-14 region will nab most.
No absolutes.
But I believe in odds in the junk.
 
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tnsharpshooter said:
Woody,
Do you see this video I did?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vz77QsUpfxQ
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Fake news.lol..tnsharpshooter,all I'm saying is the machine falls into the class of a waterproof multipurpose metal detector..It's no specialist machine at anything but does ok at everything...I mean,I like it and if you want to say it's first in line when compared to the at pro,mx,sport,kruzer,,ok,it's first in line of that group..but make no mistake,it is in that group
 
woodbutcher said:
Fake news.lol..tnsharpshooter,all I'm saying is the machine falls into the class of a waterproof multipurpose metal detector..It's no specialist machine at anything but does ok at everything...I mean,I like it and if you want to say it's first in line when compared to the at pro,mx,sport,kruzer,,ok,it's first in line of that group..but make no mistake,it is in that group
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Fake news??
What doesn’t Equinox do that your typical VLF single freq detector does???
It won’t up average or run to the the high side like Deus on deeper targets generally.
This is a BIG advantage (time wise) when it comes to detecting.

Just like Etrac and CTX, they don’t generally up average on deeper targets.
Hence less holes dug with junk in the bottom.

Name some specialty detectors please.

CTX isn’t.
Etrac isn’t
Deus isn’t. Deus might be when using Hf coil running highest freq band.
Have you been watching. Seems Equinox to some as good on nuggets (800 model) as the Minelab gold monster (Equinox gets dinged for being Coil size limited) This would be a specialty detector. What does that say?
https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/5255-gold-monster-1000-vs-equinox-800/
F75 isn’t.

Btw, the Hf elliptical deus coil I have.
Guess who it use to belong to?
Mr Herschbach.
Wonder why he sold ??
 
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tnsharpshooter said:
Fake news??
What doesn’t Equinox do that your typical VLF single freq detector does???
It won’t up average or run to the the high side like Deus on deeper targets generally.
This is a BIG advantage (time wise) when it comes to detecting.

Just like Etrac and CTX, they don’t generally up average on deeper targets.
Hence less holes dug with junk in the bottom.

Name some specialty detectors please.

CTX isn’t.
Etrac isn’t
Deus isn’t. Deus might be when using Hf coil running highest freq band.
Have you been watching. Seems Equinox to some as good on nuggets (800 model) as the Minelab gold monster (Equinox gets dinged for being Coil size limited) This would be a specialty detector. What does that say?
https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/5255-gold-monster-1000-vs-equinox-800/
F75 isn’t.

Btw, the Hf elliptical deus coil I have.
Guess who it use to belong to?
Mr Herschbach.
Wonder why he sold ??
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Why is your opinion that the etrac,3030,and Deus aren't specialty detectors?
 
woodbutcher said:
Why is it your opinion that the etrac,3030,and Deus aren't specialty detectors?
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They just aren’t.

Or I’ll put it this way.
Equniox is actually stronger on lower conductors vs how strong Etrac and CTX are on higher conductors.

So either CTX isn’t a specialty detector or both CTX and equinox both are.

Price doesn’t drive imo.
Performance does.

I know you think price drives.
Deus lite package can be had for price of equinox 800.
So does his make Deus and Equinox 800 specialty Detectors.
Deus lite package does have meter btw.

Bottom line the apple art was up ended with release of equinox series with their pricing.

Equinox probably does 90% percent plus of what all others available VLF detectors can do.

Question.
Wonder why Deus popped out the X35 coils?
I think I know based on my suing the LF coils and comparing to Equinox.
I even documented my findings on this forum.

Does anyone not think Xp didn’t get a Nox and do a real good shakedown on it testing...
You better believe it.
Hence the x35 was hatched imo. To close the gap.
 
tnsharpshooter said:
They just aren’t.

Or I’ll put it this way.
Equniox is actually stronger on lower conductors vs how strong Etrac and CTX are on higher conductors.

So either CTX isn’t a specialty detector or both CTX and equinox both are.

Price doesn’t drive imo.
Performance does.

I know you think price drives.
Deus lite package can be had for price of equinox 800.
So does his make Deus and Equinox 800 specialty Detectors.
Deus lite package does have meter btw.
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No other machine made is as hot on high conductor's as etrac and 3030..can't say that no other machine is as hot on low conductor's as the nox,every machine in it's group is hot on low conductors.Mx sport and the at pro are just as hot on low conductor's.No,no comparison on etrac and 3030 ,,they are special units targeting specific high conductor's.Apples and oranges again
 
woodbutcher said:
No other machine made is as hot on high conductor's as etrac and 3030..can't say that no other machine is as hot on low conductor's as the nox,every machine in it's group is hot on low conductors.Mx sport and the at pro are just as hot on low conductor's.No,no comparison on etrac and 3030 ,,they are special units targeting specific high conductor's.Apples and oranges again
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The XS Explorer is hotter. Lol
Less filtering it seems going on.

The Equinox is closer to Etrac vs the Pro or Max.

Didn’t you buy another Nox??
Why??

You know the Deus was bought by many, and they offloaded.
They thought the unit wreaked.
They evidently disn’t Run enough to figure out.
Many bought back after seeing folks making find ps, commenting on depth, etc.

Some have done with Equinox too.

I bought my first Deus and have had a Deus ever since. Back in late 2013 I think shortly after intro to usa.
 
Woody

Your fighting a loosing battle , get over the Nox, Go with the flow bro., chill on the all most 10 year old AT Pro, Fact new technology , new machine's will come out . What ever machine you want to swing - Do It , your friend's will get what you missed with the Nox behind you , don't worry , just be happy :D:D:D:D:D:D :tissue::clapping:
 
None of the machines mentioned in this thread are "specialty" machines. They are all special perhaps in their own ways.

It still comes down to the greatest machine is the machine you are familiar with, understand what it is saying to you and finds things you enjoy finding.

Id is A general guideline on any machine, no machine is perfect on id. I have seen ctx 3030 id bent rusty nails as deep silver but still think minelab id is very good.

Deep targets are for those who dig iffy signals. Meaning those who only dig perfect vdi will never dig some great things at great depth.

Any person who has any machine that they fully understand and find great things with has the greatest machine there is!
 
remmy said:
None of the machines mentioned in this thread are "specialty" machines. They are all special perhaps in their own ways.



It still comes down to the greatest machine is the machine you are familiar with, understand what it is saying to you and finds things you enjoy finding.



Id is A general guideline on any machine, no machine is perfect on id. I have seen ctx 3030 id bent rusty nails as deep silver but still think minelab id is very good.



Deep targets are for those who dig iffy signals. Meaning those who only dig perfect vdi will never dig some great things at great depth.



Any person who has any machine that they fully understand and find great things with has the greatest machine there is!
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