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Ctx 3030 vs. Racer 2

tnsharpshooter said:
Why this leak fix of Minelab's is so easy to criticize is,,, it was a simple fix really,, but why did it take so long,,,to bring to the customer??

Same with the arm cuff.

Not like Einstein needed to be exhumed for another theory like relativity.

The fix for both of these issue should have been on the streets easily within a year of detector release,, if not sooner.

Again,,I call balls balls,, and strikes strikes.

Besides,, isn't the CTX the most expensive Vlf detector??

When you pay big money,,, you expect to get big service!!!
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Issue with the CTX gasket is guys let the sand stick and it leaks. Problem with Makro is they don't know how to design their own stuff. You see who they stole the design from including Bounty hunter. Here is a Bounty hunter/Minelab. Can you see it? Lol! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAKRO-CF-77...145259?hash=item4d419acaab:g:C2wAAMXQWzNSojEU
 
itsaring! said:
Issue with the CTX gasket is guys let the sand stick and it leaks. Problem with Makro is they don't know how to design their own stuff. You see who they stole the design from including Bounty hunter. Here is a Bounty hunter/Minelab. Can you see it? Lol! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAKRO-CF-77...145259?hash=item4d419acaab:g:C2wAAMXQWzNSojEU
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Well,, Minelab knows how to design boat anchors,,on their own,,,I'll give them credit.

I would be willing to bet,,, if the CTX and Etrac both weighed 1 pound less,,, for coin hunters-- their detector sales would be even more tremendous.

I have seen a bunch of folks who have said,,. And this after having a CTX and ditched only for the weight factor.

We will see how smart and if Minelab has been paying attention to this,,,with their next flagship release(s).

Time will tell.
 
tnsharpshooter said:
Well,, Minelab knows how to design boat anchors,,on their own,,,I'll give them credit.

I would be willing to bet,,, if the CTX and Etrac both weighed 1 pound less,,, for coin hunters-- their detector sales would be even more tremendous.

I have seen a bunch of folks who have said,,. And this after having a CTX and ditched only for the weight factor.

We will see how smart and if Minelab has been paying attention to this,,,with their next flagship release(s).

Time will tell.
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So if the Makro has another issue where do you go from here? Minelab has a pile to choose from on the market. The lower end ones will give a Makro a competition. Lots of guys won't own an Excalibur either. They can leak in 5 feet of water if you don't take care of them. But if you look in the beach section the ones who own an Excalibur are loving that some don't own them. I found lots of stuff with my DFX. But it isn't a Minelab. But hey you got to live with your choices as do I. Gold luck!
 
itsaring! said:
So if the Makro has another issue where do you go from here? Minelab has a pile to choose from on the market. The lower end ones will give a Makro a competition. Lots of guys won't own an Excalibur either. They can leak in 5 feet of water if you don't take care of them. But if you look in the beach section the ones who own an Excalibur are loving that some don't own them. I found lots of stuff with my DFX. But it isn't a Minelab. But hey you got to live with your choices as do I. Gold luck!
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Well Makro may/ could have an issue,,but based on their history,,there customers won't be digging in their pockets to get corrected.

Don't worry White's pulled this poo poo too with the V3 machines,,by setting an arbitrary cutoff date,, so if you fell outside this purchase date-- you were charged.,,,and this was a problem with a noisy detector.

But I feel,,White's pulled a fast one here, and protected themselves legally by changing the model of the machine when the upgrade was applied.

Just what constitutes a defect in material and workmanship???
 
Single frequency machines have made leaps ahead in a short time.What I see is a lot of multi frequency members holding on ,and if it's working for them they should.Me personally,I see no benefit of a multi frequency machine over a single frequency in my ground,and I'm very happy with the new technology of single frequency machines,they see deeper,read more accurately than before,and are still very well balanced.
One machine is only better than another for the individual,not by the company or features.
 
Say what you will about Minelab. I have had my CTX for 2 3/4 years now. Yes I did have issues and each and every time minelab tried there best to take care of me. With just under 4 months left. Minelab swapped out my old machine with the new updated model. And to compare the racer to the CTX is like comparing a corvette to a go cart.
With all that minelab packs in the CTX such as target trace, pin point trace, GPS, showing multiple targets display, colored target cursor. Changeable tones. And changeable target bins.
So to have only the very few problems they have had. Such as water leak. That only happened when the owner did not clean out the battery compartment gasket. How do you blame that on minelab. I for one am very happy with my CTX, and minelab service.
Each and every machine has it's problems right out of the gate. I have not owned a Racer so I can not voice my opinion on it.
This forum and it's members opinion on machines are what I base my purchases on. Thanks to all on this forum.
 
And to compare the racer to the CTX is like comparing a corvette to a go cart.
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Price was never mentioned by the OP. If we are comparing price then again they are not even in the same class. To even insinuate the Racer 2 and CTX could be compared evenly is ludicrous. I used the CTX for two years and although I've only had the Racer 2 for a month or so I can confidently say the two are not in the same class.

I love my racer 2 it is a great tot lot detector, a great relic detector and a pretty good coin shooter. That being said, the CTX, in my experience, is far superior in all classes. That is to say if they were both the same price there would be doubt I'd go with the CTX.
 
budaf250 said:
Say what you will about Minelab. I have had my CTX for 2 3/4 years now. Yes I did have issues and each and every time minelab tried there best to take care of me. With just under 4 months left. Minelab swapped out my old machine with the new updated model. And to compare the racer to the CTX is like comparing a corvette to a go cart.
With all that minelab packs in the CTX such as target trace, pin point trace, GPS, showing multiple targets display, colored target cursor. Changeable tones. And changeable target bins.
So to have only the very few problems they have had. Such as water leak. That only happened when the owner did not clean out the battery compartment gasket. How do you blame that on minelab. I for one am very happy with my CTX, and minelab service.
Each and every machine has it's problems right out of the gate. I have not owned a Racer so I can not voice my opinion on it.
This forum and it's members opinion on machines are what I base my purchases on. Thanks to all on this forum.
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Who needs all that stuff?I mean,have you ever used GPS ? Get lost much? And what if there are 5 targets in the hole,Then what?You can only read 2,,,I'll know if one target with the At pro, the good one.All that money to read one bad target and one good?:laughing:

I don't need to look good,just need to get the job done.At pro and single frequency machines do that best for me.

While your babying yours I'm using mine.Truth is multi frequency machines are best for beaches ,because they just don't find more here in PA as a single frequency.

And Marko has come along way in a short time,All new features.All minelab did was take old fbs and vflex technology ,put them into one machine and priced it to the moon.Been cheaper to buy a etrac and 705,you'd still have change.

Minelabs are the Cadillacs of metal detectors,no doubt.They sound nice,all these options ,they are classy.

I have a Cadillac and a fleet of work trucks.That Cadillac makes no money.My international makes a few hundred aday.Since we're comparing vehicles to metal detectors.

Go to another site and look up minelabs finds,and then look up at pro finds....which machine has more valuable finds?..Single frequency machines make more valuable finds than multi frequency hands down.Not even close.
 
Who needs all that stuff?
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Because you don't I guess that means no one does? That's an awfully big attaboy you pin on your chest LOL.

My guess would be if ask which detector looks to be most successful I'd have to say the E-Trac by far for average deep coin hunting. You notice the difference between the vast majority of high end detectors and the rest is multiple frequencies don't you? What is it that the three high end most highly rated detectors have in common?
 
eSCANZ said:
Ctx 3030 vs. Racer 2

One is currently still being fixed as per customers requests and the other was manufactured as per customers requests..............

I haven't used either, however I know which of the two has had more design issues & costs one h3ll of a lot more - Personally I wouldn't look at a CTX until the problems have been fixed once and for all - Then it would be the dux nuts
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blah blah blah, "I've never used it, but I know everthing I need to know" :roll:

I just LOVE how these threads always bring out the haters! Peopler who never touched a detector but know everything about. Personally, I think if you don't swing a detector, shut up about it. There are lots of great detectors on the market and they all have their strengths and weaknesses (some have more than others) but none are perfect for every location and hunt type.
 
As a matter of fact I do use the GPS. I can map where I been and mark each target found. That way I can go back home connect to the computer and see if I may have missed any hot spots. Plus I can check to see how well I have covered the hunt site. As far as gridding the spot.
 
Detector said:
Because you don't I guess that means no one does? That's an awfully big attaboy you pin on your chest LOL.

My guess would be if ask which detector looks to be most successful I'd have to say the E-Trac by far for average deep coin hunting. You notice the difference between the vast majority of high end detectors and the rest is multiple frequencies don't you? What is it that the three high end most highly rated detectors have in common?
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Thanks,I needed that attaboy!!!lol

Top three rated detectors etrac,v3i,deus.Thats how I see it anyway,from posts

And I still have one fbs in the closet,so I'm not saying they aren't any good.That would be a lie.Maybe for other people in they're geographic location they work better,for me it's a tie with single frequency..i will say fbs do have a nice tone though when they hit a coin.

I'm not a hater though of any metal detecting machine,that's kinda silly.As a matter of fact ,the only thing I probably hate is the government at tax time.I just don't agree with what gets said sometimes,so I put my educated guess in like everyone else,after all were only talking electronics here.
 
woodbutcher said:
Thanks,I needed that attaboy!!!lol

Top three rated detectors etrac,v3i,deus.Thats how I see it anyway,from posts

And I still have one fbs in the closet,so I'm not saying they aren't any good.That would be a lie.Maybe for other people in they're geographic location they work better,for me it's a tie with single frequency..i will say fbs do have a nice tone though when they hit a coin.

I'm not a hater though of any metal detecting machine,that's kinda silly.As a matter of fact ,the only thing I probably hate is the government at tax time.I just don't agree with what gets said sometimes,so I put my educated guess in like everyone else,after all were only talking electronics here.
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How did the V3i get in there? I don't read much raving on those?
 
How did the V3i get in there? I don't read much raving on those?
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Don't underestimate the V3i just because you don't see a lot of posts about them. They are deep and they are great gold machines. In fact I'd put the V3i right there with the Dues in comparison. The V3i is one of the best, if not the best, all-around detectors. While the CTX has the advantage on deep copper and silver coins, mainly because it does a better job at accuracy ID'ing the deep ones, the F75 2 is tough to beat in the fields relic hunting and the Deus has no equal when it comes to being light and great in iron, the V3i is the king of all-around hunting. If I could only have one detector for all my hunting it would be probably the V3i or Deus.
 
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Now I'm glad I got the 2016 3030...I wouldn't be to happy to kill my $150 battery for the sake of a slightly larger o ring.
 
tnsharpshooter said:
Why this leak fix of Minelab's is so easy to criticize is,,, it was a simple fix really,, but why did it take so long,,,to bring to the customer??

Same with the arm cuff.

Not like Einstein needed to be exhumed for another theory like relativity.

The fix for both of these issue should have been on the streets easily within a year of detector release,, if not sooner.

Again,,I call balls balls,, and strikes strikes.

Besides,, isn't the CTX the most expensive Vlf detector??

When you pay big money,,, you expect to get big service!!!
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They could all do with a Garrett class on customer service.
 
metaladdict said:
How did the V3i get in there? I don't read much raving on those?
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I swing the V3i, it is a great all around detector. Very customizable and has a ton of different style of coils made for it..I have 5 different coils for mine. Only nock on it that I have is, that it is a little bit on the heavy side when swinging the ultimate 13. The three frequencies really help with target identification.

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30-30 vs racer2

Weight,water, GPS and style of hunting would be the considerations to me. Personally I am a park, sports field, event hunter that likes to hunt clad coins,silver and gold rings. The X- Terra 705 works for me, but that is my needs, yours may be totally different. JMO
 
james45 said:
Anyone have any feedback on the cxt 3030 vs. Racer 2bu marko:?:Thank you-james
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I dont own either but I would have to say they are in 2 different classes and its hard to compare apples and oranges.

One is north of 2k and one is south of 1k. Kind of unfair to compare a toyota corolla with a Lamborghini without factoring price into the equation.
 
I would say the ctx is far superior to the racer because yes I may have had problems with my ctx and it maybe heavy but you can buy a harness to make it not so heavy and minelab has not made me pay for any return shipping when dong warranty repairs.
 
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