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Garrett's new waterproof pro-pointer! WANT.

It has and still puzzles me why people take a blunt-ended tool like the ProPointer and use it as a chisel or digger. It is a wand for detecting a metal. The two ProPointers I still own don't false at all. I just don't use it as unintended. martin
 
sycotoad said:
Don't worry someone will be here shortly telling us all your falsing on those three GPP's of yours is simply down to how YOU have been using them as a shovel and a hammer :laughing:

I feel for your frustration sir & I too hope they have rectified that problem with these NEW waterproof ones
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Exactly! Because mine falsing is probably an isolated incident, right? HAHAHAHA!!!! So true, I don't even bother to carry a shovel anymore. Just use my propointer!
 
Martin_V3i said:
It has and still puzzles me why people take a blunt-ended tool like the ProPointer and use it as a chisel or digger. It is a wand for detecting a metal. The two ProPointers I still own doesn't false at all. I just don't use it as unintended. martin
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Finally! Thank you for posting this. My point exactly:yes:
 
ZR2guy said:
Finally! Thank you for posting this. My point exactly:yes:
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I can assure you...I have NEVER used mine as a digger, chisel, probe, etc. Nothing other than its intended use of detecting metal. I do not even stick mine into solid dirt, only loose. I'm on my third one. I'm EXTREMELY gentile with all of my things, especially electronics. I have a 15 year old XLT that looks brand new.
 
sycotoad said:
Isn't that illegal?

Such a bold statement with no actual proof to support your theory - Care to explain how you reached that conclusion?
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If something isn't patented it can be copied. For that matter China reverse engineers plenty that is patented:shock:
 
The two ProPointers I still own don't false at all. I just don't use it as unintended. martin
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Most people involved witth Automobile recalls never experienced a problem with their vehicle. That doesn't mean that things were made correctly. I don't know how many people have to post saying that the Garrett Pin Pointer is flawed before you believe them. But if your happy with yours I'm happy for you. By the way the AT Pro I had was junk too. From the head being mounted with an inferior mounting system to the poles seizing together after one beach hunt and having to buy the Gizmo for better balance. Garrett corrected a few of those issues because they knew there was a problem. If we stick together and post real problems and issues with our exspensive equipment the manufacturers just might make a change for the better.
 
When a product fails strait out of the box, it has nothing to do with how it was used. Many have documented this and reported it here. Others have had failures after a month of use and more see a year or two prior to experiencing a failure. The fact is is that the pro-pointer has a design issue and so far it has not been corrected. By hanging the waterproof tag on a new product might make it attractive but certainly does not say they have fixed the issue. Use and time will tell whether or not Garrett has managed to get a handle on their problem.
 
bowwinkles said:
When a product fails strait out of the box, it has nothing to do with how it was used. Many have documented this and reported it here. Others have had failures after a month of use and more see a year of two prior to experiencing a failure. The fact is is that the pro-pointer has a design issue and so far it has not been corrected. By hanging the waterproof tag on a new product might make it attractive but certainly does not say they have fixed the issue. Use and time will tell whether or not Garrett has managed to get a handle on their problem.
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I will say, they had to address waterproofing a Garrett not from forums. But from youtube. I used to be friends with someone sponsored by Garrett. He had 5 propointers and drowned 3 of them in shallow water. No telling how many he owns now? Can't beat free!:lol: You might get a couple hundred views here? On youtube he gets 150,000 views:shock:
 
ZR2guy said:
Here that person is! I have never had an issue with my GPP. Just watch a few videos on youtube and you can see the caveman tactics that are often used on a pinpointer. If you are really good with your big pinpointer (metal detector to the neanderthals reading this), the pinpointer can carry out its designed function which isn't being a shovel or hammer:roll:
But if you don't understand how to use your "big pinpointer", then you should bring along a shovel and hammer:laughing:
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totally agree 100%
 
ZR2guy said:
Scraper according to the Oxford dictionary: A tool or device used for scraping, especially for removing dirt, paint, ice, or other unwanted matter from a surface.
Nothing there about digging, hammering or shoveling from where I sit.:D
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Don't go making sense now, you'll cause a few heads to explode!
 
itsaring! said:
If something isn't patented it can be copied. For that matter China reverse engineers plenty that is patented:shock:
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So what you are saying is that the Whites TRX is NOT patented & Garrett have copied that design over into their NEW Pro Pointer AT - Is this right so far?

Now that you have brought China into the argument, where do they fit in?

Are they producing the TRX or the NEW Garrett Pin Pointers??? - Cheers
 
I'm seriously thinking about getting one! Kellyco has them on preorder for $127.00... I definitely like the color.
 
Reverse engineering, I seem to remember one of the very popular pin pointers having battery terminal issues and a very recent import having the same. One also had an issue of falsing and the other did not. one would sense all metals well and the other does not. If I were to want to copy and reproduce a product I would try to pick one that was solid in its function. Not only are the reverse engineered copies bad but their reverse engineering seems to need help also. I think Garrett will get up off their back sides and this time will produce a highly functioning product that will have that copy cat crowd trying to figure out the new technology for years to come.
 
sycotoad said:
So what you are saying is that the Whites TRX is NOT patented & Garrett have copied that design over into their NEW Pro Pointer AT - Is this right so far?

Now that you have brought China into the argument, where do they fit in?

Are they producing the TRX or the NEW Garrett Pin Pointers??? - Cheers
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That's your homework for this evening:cool:
 
To each his own...everyone has there own style of detecting. Some folks play on the beaches with the scoops, some beat the rubber up around tot lots and school yards and old houses. Then there's us guys who go rugged in the woods and creeks searching for war relics and such. I can speak for most of us relic hunters when saying I beat the hell out of my equipment. Ever tried to get between 3 crossed roots and not apply some sort of pressure to the propointer. And then that thick mud that folds over the button and tucks it in the casing. Lol. You hardcores know what I'm talking about. I don't care how they made it or who made it, I've already preordered mine. I fully agree with the PR getting fired. Lol. What a marketing failure this is.
 
bowwinkles said:
Reverse engineering, I seem to remember one of the very popular pin pointers having battery terminal issues and a very recent import having the same. One also had an issue of falsing and the other did not. one would sense all metals well and the other does not. If I were to want to copy and reproduce a product I would try to pick one that was solid in its function. Not only are the reverse engineered copies bad but their reverse engineering seems to need help also. I think Garrett will get up off their back sides and this time will produce a highly functioning product that will have that copy cat crowd trying to figure out the new technology for years to come.
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Dunno about that - seems these GPP copies you speak of DON'T have the falsing issues like the original Garrett Pro Pointer -

As I also understand it, Deteknix announced their waterproof one to be released this year, well before any mention of Garrett's PP AT & Makro has already released their first waterproof pin-pointer into the market, yet the thought of Garrett copying these designs never crossed my mind & to think either one of the fore-mentioned companies based their pin-pointers off the faulty GPP design is nothing short of hysterical :laughing:

Sure Deteknix had an initial problem however they have improved upon that issue and moved on - Garrett on the other hand have NOT improved on their issue with the GPP, they simply put a temporary fix in and that's it until it shites itself again, which according to the multitude of posts, they do.....
 
itsaring! said:
That's your homework for this evening:cool:
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No need, as its only YOUR imagination getting the better of you again

"I would imagine they reverse engineered a TRX to gain the depth the propointer never had"

Just like -

I would imagine going on a hunt with you would certainly be a fun day out ;)
 
Mr Toad, I do not believe that anywhere that it was said that Whites or Garrett were the culprit's who were doing the reverse engineering. That practice is happening overseas. The gist of what I said was even though these overseas companies are reverse engineering our products, they are still doing a very poor job of it because what they are pushing onto the market a much lesser product that falls below the product they are attempting to copy. You mentioned the Deketnix and that they have corrected the problem. Well I see reports where the new corrected units are still falling apart which puts that bit of engineering into the category of weak and unstable designs. Maybe they should sneak a peak at the competition for a tried and proven method of accomplishing a solid fix for their failed area of design. They maybe could also sneak a peak at the sensing circuits which is another area where I understand they need help with. I have not been a big fan of how Garrett has handled their pro pointer problems, but at least that bad problem is their own. I am sure they will take the heat and make the change with this new offering.
 
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