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sjenkinf

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Hi there!

I hope someone can help me identify these items! Found in a cow pasture in the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia.

They are small (maybe 1.5 inches), and are quite heavy/appear to be lead.
 

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That's a possibility, if so, that would be one of the coolest finds I've seen. Congrats bud.
Don't think they'd make ox knobs out of lead. Not to mention the intricate little handles, I love em.
 
Have you tried cleaning them at all? Don't scrub hard, but with the old lead you can rinse it and knock the dirt off with a tooth brush. It will keep that tan color and just remove the dirt, I do it with all my bullets and carved lead. I would be curious to see if they have any rings from a minie ball, or if they are just carved from a lead ball. I think you have carved lead for sure, which is an amazing find.
 
i would say carved Minie ball but for the purpose. ??? In Georgia peaches were king one time, and old timers just took peach seeds of the freestone variety and carved little baskets out of them. my daughters used them with Barbie dolls lol when my Dad did some.

may have been out of boredom. i have a minie carved into a point with a slit and is believed to be a chess piece bishop. but that i have never seen. there was a reason

BUT it could have been a musket nipple protector used by a string attached to protect the nipple on the musket from dirt and water. most are smaller flatter, but I could see that maybe...the base of the minie being hollow. there were 3 ringers, two ringers, solids etcc huge variety. with and wiithout cavities. some had wooden plugs, some 69 caliber common in Va theaters of war, not just 58 caliber.

i would consider musket nipple protector albiet big cavity.
 
Another Angle!

The bottom is open...do we think it's a musket nipple protector?
 

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How wide are the openings? They don't look much like any other nipple protectors, most of the examples I see online have square openings with a stem in the middle and aren't open on both sides. But I'll keep digging.
 
The bottom is open...do we think it's a musket nipple protector?

Definitely not nipple protectors or melting pots, but you have our curiosity for sure. How about placing a coin with them for size reference.
 
Size Reference

You all are so helpful! I've attached photos with measurements.
 

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Are you sure they are lead? I still think they could be Ox Knobs. The handle parts of them, could be screw holes to keep them on. The horn tip would go through the large hole in the bottom, then cut and grind the horn flush.
 
i did not know they were open. so definitely not that. the loops and size of hole too big for fishing sinker. i am stumped.

are they some kind of mantle or large clock weights?
 
i did not know they were open. so definitely not that. the loops and size of hole too big for fishing sinker. i am stumped.

are they some kind of mantle or large clock weights?

Clock weights comment made me think of scale weights, which were used for food rationing. I've found 2 weights in camps before, one was a solid round lead ball with iron loop like that, the other didn't resemble at all being a disc for beam scale. Still stumped though honestly.
 
They are the right size and shape for oxen knobs minus those handels. But as state before if not threaded inside like some knobs, they had nail holes and that could be what those are for.
 
Thanks!

I think ox knobs might be the best guess. Pretty sure they're lead, but if there's a way to tell whether they're brass or lead, let me know! Clearly I'm not an expert, lol.

Thanks everyone!
 
Open ends are a surprise. Handles are actually for screws, could be. Check them with a magnet. I see some iron oxide lookin stuff on there. They may be iron coated in lead for corrosion resistance.
 
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