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Nice vids. I like the lighter. :thumbsup:



I agree with what you say about not digging it, but partly i also agree with the viewers. It's how you look at it.
You could decide for a none full restauration to keep some of the antiquity.

An 1800 Napoleon head model scythe hammer for example.
https://erfgoedsporen.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/haarhamer-gerestaureerd-1800/

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Hey! Thanks for the positive feedback! That cool hammer you posted - if I had one like that I would probably only have restored the striking surfaces and left the rest nice and pitted like that. Thanks for the photos - gives me great inspiration!
 
Interesting video on that file you salvaged. If I run across anything I'll let you know to see if you're interested. Great hammer also! At least now you know what it is.
 
You destroyed the history of it. It's worthless as an artifact now, as in, no value other than as a hammer.


OMG please don't do that. Or are we going to criticize all strange cleaning methods passing on this forum which ruin collectable vallue from coins and objects? As he is far from the only one "ruining collectable value".
Let the man. He did a nice job with a beautifull result. Eventually it is his property and he can do with it which he can. I would do it that much either but i say it in frienly words as this is a Friendly Metal Detecting Forum. :D
If you leave your hammer like it is it can lay next to his which can show how it once looked. Both useful. All happy.

And what is ruining? I know about a guy who found many roman nails. He let a blacksmid forge a roman gladis from them.
Has he ruined history? Or did he do something creative with it? Should he kepth his nail? Or does he now have a wonderfull roman fake object made from real roman iron? I like that idea.
 
I know, let's just melt down all artifacts. I mean, who needs them they're just old? Cleaning method? Are you delerious? Cleaning does not involve taking a grinder or file to it. HAHAHA.

Ethics
The primary goal for conservators and restorers is the preservation of cultural property. In order to achieve this goal, conservators abide by a code of ethics and guidelines that establish the principles that guide conservation professionals and others who are involved in the care of cultural property. An example of a code of ethics and guidelines for practice were created by the American Institute for Conservation of Historic and Artistic Works (AIC). One of the most important principles in a conservator's code of ethics is that treatments should be reversible, which means that one must be able to undo any treatment in the future. Conservators strive to only minimize interventions and not completely alter an object during restoration. Conservation focuses on the material aspects of art, and respect for original materials remains a crucial element of the field's ethics.

ar·ti·fact
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an object made by a human being, typically an item of cultural or historical interest.
 
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man I got t all for you! old digging bar, tons of axe heads, old bark peeler thing(spudder or something can't remember name) old hammers, old files, old knives, huge old squar spikes about a foot long, all sort of rusty stuff, old roller skate, about 100 horseshoes and ox shoes, old scythe blades, other old tool blades, old ice block grabber things, old hay carrying spike thing. Pretty much you name it I have probably dug it in a cellar hole haha.
 
If one melts down his and only his possessions he is free to do so.

Go for it, it's already useless as an historic example.

Did you ever looked how museums and archeologics clean there artefacts?

As a matter of fact, I have been to the archives basement room at the Chicago Museum of Natural History. And you?
 
As a matter of fact, I have been to the archives basement room at the Chicago Museum of Natural History. And you?

[cockfight modus on]
Yep, me to. Even have good connections with my provence archeologes (= beyond city borders) and have been in the provincial archaeological depot.
I even have been personally invited at the National government service for cultural heritage and have personal connections overthere. I have been a member of a select group of delegates for all detecorists in my country regarding heritage legislation. Perhaps i can even show you badges from visits if i didn't throw them away. And i am even personally mentioned in their official reports made for our national politicians, and on there website in word and picture (so i could prove what i am saying).
Been invited at other archeological events and organizations. Even have been special guest once at yet another organisation.
:cool3: Can you say that? Should i go on?:laughing:

If you were there and saw enough then you must know that even electrical cleaning methods come around. Dremel like machines. Not always, but they are used (on hard hammers and so).
Or are you condemning this museum for this hammer?
https://museumrotterdam.nl/collecti...nStart=16&objectrow=23&itemReturnSearch=hamer
And did you think this fibula came out of the ground like this?
https://museumrotterdam.nl/collecti...=0&objectrow=11&itemReturnSearch=middeleeuwen

So please stop this cockfight. I do not like competition. Yes i have such professional connections. I guess i have more experience with old objects here in europe then you can have overthere in the US.
For you overthere such 1750 hammer is very old. Overhere it is archeological classified as not archeological interesting modern ages. You jump high in the air for a collonial coin, which we overhere find about 2-6 each hunt, no matter how much you go out detecting.
Overhere everything younger then 1500 is not that interesting. Not archeological interesting. When did Columbus found what he thought would be India, and what made America start to exist? ;)

I have had many much older finds in my hands then you probably will ever have. Both in metal (thousends yo) as in non-metal (half bio+ yo) and all my property and in my posession.
I myself found and own at least 950 archeological interesting artefacts from 200.000BC up to 1500AD and all times in between (lost exact count :D ) which are all officially registered for that reason by the government. I even own older non-human objects and many more younger modern age finds, but those are not interesting for archeologs so i do not even count these.
And [ontopic] i have more then once got compliments from these specialists about how well and nice i preserve my finds.

Do you have that deep and wide experience? I guess not. [/cockfight modus off] .. hopefully for ever, as i really do not like such. But you see, if needed i can.

So "destroyed the history of it" is very relative. He didn't melt it down. It's still there. Chill. He didn't shine pollish the Statue of Liberty. :lol:
What is interesting is relative (locally and personally). And i already agreed partly with you, and gave him the option to next time leave some of the shine behind and keep some old look, and he said he will think about that. But if he doesn't, that's totally up to him and no one else. I hope he for sure doesn't when really interesting heritage artifacts.
So please stop judging him. Christmas is coming. :yes:
 
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BTW, want to buy such hammer? Here on image below an 18th cent. one for sale for 22 USD (20 euro). ;) No one bids as you can see, that unique as it is.

Want to buy mine? A more rare 1800 scythe hammer. (see prev image)
For USD 85 (P&P for buyer) it is yours. :D

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PFFttt, no.


Hahaha. No need to "preserve history" now? Man you don't know what your talking about. Then don't judge others anymore, OK? And i advice to be carefull with starting cockfights next time. I suggest you take a lesson from it. This forum is called "FRIENDLY Metal Detecting Forum"


Peace. Have a merry Christmas. Cheers.
 
Noop. Cockfights i said. I am not talking about what you are suggesting your thinking of.
Again. This forum is called "FRIENDLY Metal Detecting Forum".

These are cocks. In a fight. A cockfight. What i do not like.

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Hi all,

Thought I would revive this old post to let you know that I have posted the video of the axe head restoration that the wonderful AirmetTango sent me. Link is below if you want to see it. I'm sure you all know this, but AirmetTango is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet in a while.

The call is still open to anyone who has a crusty rusty that they want to donate to my channel and see restored. I'll gladly cover shipping. I also hope that when this blanket of snow leaves, I'll have more to give this forum as an active member.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRCSbCu8VM&t=1s
 
Unless it's the hammer that killed John Henry, or made of stone, I'm not sure you can destroy the history of a hammer.
 
Awesome video and great work! I hope to see more of the finds here be restored. So cool!

Hi all,

Thought I would revive this old post to let you know that I have posted the video of the axe head restoration that the wonderful AirmetTango sent me. Link is below if you want to see it. I'm sure you all know this, but AirmetTango is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet in a while.

The call is still open to anyone who has a crusty rusty that they want to donate to my channel and see restored. I'll gladly cover shipping. I also hope that when this blanket of snow leaves, I'll have more to give this forum as an active member.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtRCSbCu8VM&t=1s
 
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