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Old 08-13-2012, 05:15 PM
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Default Possible EXTREMELY Rare Coin..... Help!

Hi all,

Straight to the point. My father in law has a 1853 O seated liberty half dollar, no rays. I looked at it today, comparing it to the pic in the Red Book. It sure looks real to me. Could it really BE?? He's owned it for several years. Someone told him it was probably counterfeit. I dunno though.... sure looked right on to me. Numbers were right, no abnormalities. Same with the ridges, etc. No dents.. nothing.

According to Red Book, there are only 3 known!
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:17 PM
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grab a magnet and test it...if its magnetic ...its fake!!
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Pics????

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Old 08-13-2012, 05:23 PM
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Next time I go over there, I'll get pics and do the magnet test.. Thanks!

Edit to add... as long as he has been collecting coins... I would think he's already done the magnet test though.. I'll find out.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:39 PM
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Just found an article where a 4th coin was found. http://www.coinworld.com/articles/fo...-rays-50-surf/

Father in law gets that magazine. I called and told him to look at the article. Also, asked if he had stuck a magnet to it. He couldn't remember, but said he would. He's getting on up there in years.

Man, if my father in law has a 5th one, I'll be in heaven!
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Pic would be great. Hope it is a rare one for him.

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Old 08-14-2012, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WildDigger View post
Pic would be great. Hope it is a rare one for him.
I will get pictures next time, if I can. My father in law is a very private person, eccentric, really. Hopefully, he'll let me take a picture. He doesn't have a checking or bank account. He deals in stocks and trade. He has many coins. If I'd had my camera with me today, I would have snapped some pictures. He has the coin in one of those cardboard holder thingys. When he bought the coin (along with several others) they were all loose.

If you look at the 1853 O without arrows or rays in the article I posted above... that's it. Although, My FIL's coin looks near AU. That is the one big thing that gives me pause.
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Weight is the easiest way to spot a counterfeit.....grab a small scale and weigh it.

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Old 08-14-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jkernea View post
Weight is the easiest way to spot a counterfeit.....grab a small scale and weigh it.

What should it weigh?

From the article linked to above....

Congress reacted with passage of the Act of Feb. 21, 1853; the act ordered a reduction in the weight of the half dime, dime, quarter dollar and half dollar, but not of the dollar and the 3-cent coin. The reduction in weight was successful in halting the melting.

To distinguish coins of the new weight from those of the old weight, modifications were ordered to the existing designs. On the obverse, horizontal arrows were added on each side of the date on the half dime, dime, quarter dollar and half dollar. Glory rays were added to encircle the eagle on the quarter dollar and half dollar reverses.
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Well, I've been doing my homework. Getting it looked at soon.
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No pic, no coin!

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Wow. Would love to see a pic of that one. Tell him to keep that baby!

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Originally Posted by KingTotsalot View post
No pic, no coin!
i agree!!!

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Ditto.

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From 1853 to 1873 the half dollars produced in the United States weighed 12.44 grams (192 grains). The change was signified by adding arrows at the date (1853-1855) and rays around the eagle (1853). The weight was slightly increased to 12.50 grams (193 grains) in 1873, with the change signified by adding arrows at the date (1873-1874). This would remain the weight until the conclusion of the series in 1891.
http://seatedlibertyhalfdollar.org/s...pecifications/

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Getting pics today... so there!

Seriously, I am going over to weigh the coin and take pictures. If authentic, the coin should weigh 13.36 (or 63, forget which). Sending the info to a Pro at Stacks Bowers. YAY! Well, that is if the weight is true.
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I'm crossing my fingers for ya! Best of luck, and hopefully he will allow a picture.

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Originally Posted by blk86trbo View post
I'm crossing my fingers for ya! Best of luck, and hopefully he will allow a picture.

Thanks!!

I talked to him on the phone about it last night. He is willing to take the coin from it's holder to weigh.. AND let me take pictures.

I will share the pictures this evening, regardless of the outcome of it's weight.
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The suspense is killing me

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Originally Posted by Perquimans View post
The suspense is killing me


It's been killn' me too!


It DID pass the magnet test.. yay.




Here's the pictures as promised. sigh



As you can see, the weight is way off.


Front and back.

It sure would have been nice. Oh well, Que Sera Sera.
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