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Old 04-18-2022, 12:38 PM
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Lost Civil War Gold Found? Treasure Hunting over the years has grown to be a high tech hobby for those who go after the big ones. A group of treasure hunters from Clearfield Pa. called Finders Keepers believe they have found one of the big ones. Dennis K Parada one of the owners of Finders Keepers believes they have found the Lost Civil War Gold shipment that went through northern Pa. during the battle of Gettysburg. It was in early June 1863 that the Union wagon train left Wheeling, West Va. with 52 bars of gold each weighing 50lb. The wagon train was to travel north east through Pa. to Ridgeway then head south east to Harrisburg. The wagon train made it to St. Marys, Pa and that was the last time it was seen. The wagons and dead solders were found later but not the gold.

Over the years many treasure hunters have looked for it. In 1975 I was given a map that show were the gold was hidden, so we went to the site in Elk Co. Pa. and found nothing and gave up. For 19 years I kept telling my friends about the lost gold hunt we were on and one of my friends ask me if I could still find the same site and this time check it out with the newest metal detectors. So in Nov. 04 we went to the site that was on the map and we started finding artifacts from the civil war period. We then notified the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources about what we found and they ask that we bring everything to them so they could send everything to the Museum Commission in Harrisburg. The Museum Commissions response was that there was no truth to the story about a Lost Civil War Gold shipment and everything we sent them wasnt even close to the age of the civil war period. But we had everything looked at by local experts before we sent everything to the state and some of the artifacts were from the 1860s and we found proof of the story to be true. So we were not going to give up and each time we returned to the site we found more evidence that proved our claim. We found a bullet shell, knifes, animal traps, zinc mason jar lid, tin cans, bones(human or animal), whiskey bottle, camp fire pit, and alot more that the state now has and wont return. They say that they dont have the time or the money to go treasure hunting but if we can show them the gold then they will look into it. They allso stated that if anyone digs on state land and remove artifacts they would go to jail and lose any rights to a reward. So we offered to pay all cost to dig and pay for a digging permit and they said no. Again we went back to the site with 3 high powered metal detectors and located a large metal object 8 feet to 10 feet under the fire pit. Again we notified the state and were turned down, the state said show us proof of gold. So we returned to the site with a GPL metal detector and we had 8 hits on iron and 2 on gold. If the gold bars were buried in iron boxes and they were now rusted open this would explain the readings. Again we took the new info to a state representative and the answer was show us the gold. We now believe the state wants us to dig the gold so they can take it away from us. We were told that if any gold was found it would belong to the Federal Gov. and Finders Keepers may get something but the state would get nothing.

We have alot of other classified information that also proves the gold is still there but the state still has not done anything. If this site is not the Lost Gold from the civil war then what did someone bury there before the 1860s camp fire was there. I spent over $8000 and many months checking this out and all we ask is that someone from the state comes to check it out.

Finders Keepers is a locate and recovery service for under ground metal artifacts.

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Old 04-18-2022, 12:42 PM
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Yes this can of worms has been opened many a times on most treasure hunting or metal detecting websites. Try doing a search of the site with "dents run" as key words.
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Old 04-18-2022, 12:54 PM
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Old 04-18-2022, 12:58 PM
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Finders Keepers is a locate and recovery service for under ground metal artifacts.
Why haven't they found the gold?

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Old 04-18-2022, 01:52 PM
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Surprised Tom_in_CA hasn't seen this thread yet, he seems to enjoy chiming in on these kind of treasure threads, just joking Tom !

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Old 04-18-2022, 02:29 PM
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Surprised Tom_in_CA hasn't seen this thread yet,...
Well thank you for drawing it to my attention GKL I see others have already hinted that this is a can of worms . And yes, it's another bee-in-my-bonnet. It's gotten several people banned from T'net, because .... heaven forbid you 'diss Dennis' story, eh ?

Yes, this Dennis fellow is a joke. He chases a ghost-story legend (that never had any proof, other than the legend-itself, as proof-of-itself). Then waves his magic wand (dowsing rod) around his suspected zone. Announces he's "found" (past tense) a treasure.

Then he runs around for a few years banging on media outlet doors, begging for attention. Announcing he's "found" (past tense) this treasure. And banging on govt. official's doors for permission to dig the treasure, and split it with uncle Sam.

Meanwhile, at no time is there any doubt it in his mind that a treasure is there. It's merely a matter of overcoming govt. red-tape obstacles (digging on some sort of public land). And legal hurdles of how to split the treasure that he's "found". How to dig 20 meters deep through solid rock, blah blah blah

FINALLY, after years of creating his-own-smoke, he gets some govt. officials to come out and dig there. Naturally, nothing is there. So then the new chapter starts : Rather than "nothing being there", he decides that the government "stole" it. And runs around seeking media attention with this new story.

So this is the exact same psychology as the Oak Island nonsense : The fact of no treasure ever being found .... NEVER means: "There's no treasure". It ALWAYS only means : A little deeper. A little more to the right. Or someone already found it. Or someone stole it. BUT REST ASSURED THERE'S A TREASURE !
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Old 04-18-2022, 02:34 PM
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Does anyone here remember his earlier "found treasure" story ? One that predates his Dents Run nonsense, was that he'd "found" (past tense) a treasure buried in the grave of a civil war soldier.

So he ran around seeking permission to dig up the grave (which was in some sort of CW monument park or whatever). Naturally, they tell him "No". Which then becomes ALL THE MORE PROOF of treasure being in that grave. After all, the sneaky government *must* be hiding something, if they say "no" to him. Eh ?

And if this prior story script is starting to sound a little familiar, .... yup, you guessed it. It's the same script as in : "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" . The famous Spaghetti Western movie with Clint Eastwood.
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One more thing to point out : Has anyone here noticed how quickly so many people just assume the story is true ? Ie.: The mere fact that it comes up on forums , shows the psychology that we are all guilty of :

Whenever treasure assertions are posed, it's VERY VERY easy to believe them. Because no one wants to be laughed at all the way to the bank. Eh ? So we put skeptical critical logical thinking aside. And "hold out all hope". Lest we "miss out".

Let's be perfectly honest : Treasure legends are fun, eh ? Conspiracy theories are fun. Eh ? And since all of them are riddled with real names, dates and events, they *sound* so convincing. All ya gotta do is toss in a few faded newspaper clippings, and a drawing of a miner posed next to his burro, then add a treasure assertion, and PRESTO, it must be true.

In other words, none of them ever started with "Once upon a time". So instead you draw on real events, names, and dates, then add a treasure.

And no one ever asks "says who ??". Instead, just like Oak Island, they sit around debating ship travel routes, names of pirates, debating motives, debating how anyone could have the technology to dig 100 ft. deep, blah blah blah. AS IF THERE WAS ANY TREASURE IN THE FIRST PLACE ! Ie.: It doesn't MATTER if 99% of the story is true. If the 1% (the treasure part) isn't true, then what does it matter ?

But all this gets overlooked. Because it's much more fun to be spellbound.
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I don't know of this particular story but as far as the Oak Island drama. I was pretty sure when it started it was all hype for a good show. I watched the first season of it and saw I was right and that it was reality TV at it's best. I think a year or so ago I happened across it again and saw it was more of the same. A few different faces in the game with more detailed stories that were created for the interest factor. I know a guy that watches it religiously and says they keep finding bits and pieces so the treasures HAVE to be there. I tell him no........The only thing that HAS to be there is B.S. because that's all there IS there.
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I don't know of this particular story but as far as the Oak Island drama. I was pretty sure when it started it was all hype for a good show. I watched the first season of it and saw I was right and that it was reality TV at it's best. I think a year or so ago I happened across it again and saw it was more of the same. A few different faces in the game with more detailed stories that were created for the interest factor. I know a guy that watches it religiously and says they keep finding bits and pieces so the treasures HAVE to be there. I tell him no........The only thing that HAS to be there is B.S. because that's all there IS there.
I used to watch and enjoy Oak Island....I would have been gobsmacked if they ever found anything substantial, but enjoyed watching the search itself, the big machinery and engineering used, not to mention the technology that has been brought in at various points There does seem to be some genuine historic bits and pieces unearthed from time to time, although they are along way from being treasure...

I also enjoyed listening too (and having a chuckle at) the various theories, some very outlandish, that were put forward...

A lot has obviously gone on on the island in the past, and the swamp does seem to be man made so I would love to read a genuine history of the Island, a history supported by main stream Archaeologists/historians...

All that said, this last series has gotten very tedious, and I am struggling to get enthused watching Gary get excited about a bit of cut wood or an old iron spike....
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.... get excited about a bit of cut wood or an old iron spike....
Then gee, if that is proof of a fabulous treasure, then : I must have a treasure in my backyard too then. There is no doubt a spike, some wood, etc.... there. Who woulda-thunk-it ??
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Then gee, if that is proof of a fabulous treasure, then : I must have a treasure in my backyard too then. There is no doubt a spike, some wood, etc.... there. Who woulda-thunk-it ??
Oh but your wood and iron spikes aren't old
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Oh but your wood and iron spikes aren't old
Haha, well it seems to me that you and I have found "old wood" and "old spikes" on some past treks of ours. Right ? Who woulda thunk that we walked right past a fabulous treasure !
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I still like to watch it. After them putting Cassons down this year, as large as they are, I expected a little more. I think they are not really going about it in the right way. At this point I would think they would circle the largest area with Cassons, fill them, and weld some sort of beams across them so they could really dig it out and find out what is down there. I liked it better when they were able to start digging up the "road" area coming out of the swamp until they ran into the pottery and got shut down. The archeology part of it was real cool. I don't know....I think something happened there, but it is really starting to drag out. I used to love watching Gary metal detect, and that is what really put me over to get my own detector and start learning the art of the craft. But some of it is getting real tedious. I like the history part of it, and now that science is really being applied I like to watch it more when that is applied. The blacksmith is a nice guy, but I still think a lot of it is conjecture. The geologist guy is probably my favorite now, Dr. Spooner I think.

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I used to watch and enjoy Oak Island....I would have been gobsmacked if they ever found anything substantial, but enjoyed watching the search itself, the big machinery and engineering used, not to mention the technology that has been brought in at various points There does seem to be some genuine historic bits and pieces unearthed from time to time, although they are along way from being treasure...

I also enjoyed listening too (and having a chuckle at) the various theories, some very outlandish, that were put forward...

A lot has obviously gone on on the island in the past, and the swamp does seem to be man made so I would love to read a genuine history of the Island, a history supported by main stream Archaeologists/historians...

All that said, this last series has gotten very tedious, and I am struggling to get enthused watching Gary get excited about a bit of cut wood or an old iron spike....
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I liked it better when they were able to start digging up the "road" area coming out of the swamp until they ran into the pottery and got shut down.
Darn that pottery, caused my favorite archeologist to exit the program
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Darn that pottery, caused my favorite archeologist to exit the program

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I still like to watch it. After them putting Cassons down this year, as large as they are, I expected a little more. I think they are not really going about it in the right way. At this point I would think they would circle the largest area with Cassons, fill them, and weld some sort of beams across them so they could really dig it out and find out what is down there. I liked it better when they were able to start digging up the "road" area coming out of the swamp until they ran into the pottery and got shut down. The archeology part of it was real cool. I don't know....I think something happened there, but it is really starting to drag out. I used to love watching Gary metal detect, and that is what really put me over to get my own detector and start learning the art of the craft. But some of it is getting real tedious. I like the history part of it, and now that science is really being applied I like to watch it more when that is applied. The blacksmith is a nice guy, but I still think a lot of it is conjecture. The geologist guy is probably my favorite now, Dr. Spooner I think.
I think the thing that strikes me is how the technology they deployed has promised so much, but has not really delivered.

A couple of seasons ago, they had that extensive seismic survey which allegedly saw possible tunnels and chambers, but nothing really came of it...I was willing to concede that the natural limestone is probably a maze of natural caverns and tunnels anyway..

In the last series they did those ground water tests that showed high levels of silver and detectable amounts of gold in water from certain bore holes but so far they have failed to find the source...so were the people doing the ground water analysis snake oil salesmen or is there another explanation for the results?
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I don't know of this particular story but as far as the Oak Island drama. I was pretty sure when it started it was all hype for a good show. I watched the first season of it and saw I was right and that it was reality TV at it's best. I think a year or so ago I happened across it again and saw it was more of the same. A few different faces in the game with more detailed stories that were created for the interest factor. I know a guy that watches it religiously and says they keep finding bits and pieces so the treasures HAVE to be there. I tell him no........The only thing that HAS to be there is B.S. because that's all there IS there.
All I ended up with from that over dramatic, dragged out show was that there once was a very good crop of "cabbage" on that island. The lucrative business of the discreet farmer is providing for his family to this day...

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LOL! I remember the old "In Search of" series regarding Oak Island. As a young kid I believed something was still buried there. Decades later the current show came out and thought it was hilarious. How deep have they gone? How deep could pirates or whomever have gone a couple hundred years ago. The treasure is getting Hollywood money to produce a nothing show.

I grew up in Upstate NY. There was a story about gangster Dutch Shultz (I'm sure most on here have heard about) leaving a buried treasure in the town next door to where i grew up. Every now and then someone would come in from out of town to try and persuade a land owner to dig up their land with a backhoe. There was even an old prospector that lived in the area that looked like he came from the 1800's. He didn't have a car and would be seen walking the highway from time to time. Ah memories.
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Someone on the other board seems to be tracking the court case. Thats a lot of documents and video's the government has, if it's all a hoax.

I have no idea, I'm a skeptic about everything. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in the next few months.
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