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kweis 04-05-2020 09:48 PM

Button identification site
 
Can anyone recommend a civilian button identification site? I've found a few early silver plated buttons recently at a home site that dates from around 1790 but I belive are early 1800's. One has back mark that say plated and has a small iron cross hallmark. The other is a hatch grid on front and says fine plate surface on the back and is two piece. Will try to post pictures but can't do it on this iPad will have to download on the computer later, thanks.

waltr 04-06-2020 12:16 AM

Here is a good one I use:
http://www.thememphisdiggers.com/datingbuttons.htm

Do POST photos so you can have the advantage of many experts.

The term "Plated" on a back mark wasn't used until the late 1800s as far I know.
Early 1800's buttons would be marked "Gilt".
Two piece buttons didn't exist until about the 1840s. Before this they were one piece.
My guess is both your buttons are 1900s.

beest 04-06-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by waltr (Post 3209829)
Two piece buttons didn't exist until about the 1840s. Before this they were one piece.
My guess is both your buttons are 1900s.

Sorry but need to correct you slightly. Two piece buttons did exist earlier.
Existed already in the late 1700's.
http://collectie.friesmuseum.nl/?diw...smuseum_J11842 (also scroll down)

And here some more:
http://wf4.nl/Index/indexknopen.htm

http://wf4.nl/vondstenTheo/k3-189.JPGhttp://wf4.nl/vondstenTheo/k3-286.jpg

waltr 04-06-2020 08:42 PM

Thanks beest.

Those would be Rare in the late 1700's USA.
By then Button making industry is just getting started here and most were one piece.
Two piece buttons were not made here until later.

beest 04-07-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by waltr (Post 3210137)
Those would be Rare in the late 1700's USA.


Rare ok. But possible if you look who discovered the US and when (pre-1775?), european, and which clothes the wore those days (same as here).
So i would say that the buttons from here are very well likely to be found there.

HuntinDog 04-07-2020 11:44 AM

To my understanding "gilt" was gold and "plated" was for silver.

waltr 04-07-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HuntinDog (Post 3210317)
To my understanding "gilt" was gold and "plated" was for silver.

Ok but my understanding is early methods were to 'Gilt'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver-gilt


In the Later 1800's with the discovery of how to use electricity the process of 'plating' was invented. Read the history section:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroplating

Since this 'plating' process was New Tech at that time items would be marked 'plated'.


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