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davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicbrh (Post 3387884)
If this gold exists, it was stolen from the confederate states and should be returned to the descendants of the people living in confederate states at the time.
I demand the return of my share of the gold.

I would be happy to own just one or 2 of the coins :laughing:

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388003)
I would be happy to own just one or 2 of the coins.....

What "coins" ? :?:

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 03:18 PM

Metaldetector.com has a article on the subject
 
https://www.metaldetector.com/learn/...nfederate-gold

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388007)
What "coins" ? :?:

Gold coins and bars are among the most valuable pieces of Confederate currency. During the Confederacy, coins were issued in the denominations of one cent and fifty cents. Civil war coinage https://www.govmint.com/coin-authori...20of%20America.

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388020)

Link doesn't work. But I'll bet you dollars to donuts, that once you fix the link, that it doesn't prove any fabulous treasure, coins, gold, etc..... Are you a betting man David ? :laughing:

Foragist 04-26-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388020)

That website is not accessible. COVERUP! The treasure must be real!

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Foragist (Post 3388026)
That website is not accessible. COVERUP! The treasure must be real!


Well yes, of course. It's all a part of the grand conspiracy ! All-the-more-proof of a fabulous treasure. Because the globalists and Rockefellers and the Freemasons sit around in dark smoke filled rooms. Watching computer monitors, wearing dark sunglasses, trench-coats, & smoking cigarettes. Watching our every move.

And when they saw Dave's link, they quickly fixed it to go to dead-letter department. So as to further obfuscate the treasure . WHAT MORE PROOF DO WE NEED !! ??

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388025)
Link doesn't work. But I'll bet you dollars to donuts, that once you fix the link, that it doesn't prove any fabulous treasure, coins, gold, etc..... Are you a betting man David ? :laughing:

site was slow to load will try and reload it again later , may be having issues on site. was on metaldetector.com link seems to be back up , never said it was any proof , just some information https://www.metaldetector.com/learn/...nfederate-gold

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388033)
site was slow to load will try and reload it again later , may be having issues on site. was on metaldetector.com

Nope. Here's what we get :

"...Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@metaldetector.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.


I keep trying to tell you David : The FBI is in league with the Freemasons, the Globalists, BlackRock, the Rothschilds, etc.... They purposefully skewed your link, so that no one would be wise to the treasure. In fact, I think that YOU ARE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY ! 'Fess up !

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388037)
Nope. Here's what we get :

"...Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@metaldetector.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.


I keep trying to tell you David : The FBI is in league with the Freemasons, the Globalists, BlackRock, the Rothschilds, etc.... They purposefully skewed your link, so that no one would be wise to the treasure. In fact, I think that YOU ARE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY ! 'Fess up !

try now link seems to be back up https://www.metaldetector.com/learn/...nfederate-gold

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 03:56 PM

link back up but did a copy and past incase others can't see it .
 
Confederate Gold: The Myth And The Historical Evidence
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Where is the Confederate gold?
The Story of the Mysterious Lake Michigan Confederate Gold
Was the confederate gold really stolen?
Conflicting Information About the Confederate Gold
What is Confederate Gold worth?
Did Anyone Ever Find the Treasure?
Did the FBI find Confederate gold?
How Much Treasure is in Lake Michigan?
Where is the Confederate gold?
The mystery of the confederate gold that vanished somewhere near Lake Michigan is something that keeps treasure hunters up at night. What happened to the gold bullion supposedly secreted away by the Confederacy before its defeat? Did it survive to be used to back the Confederate government's printing of new currency? Or did it just disappear? The fate of the gold is a subject of much mystery and conspiracy theories.

The Story of the Mysterious Lake Michigan Confederate Gold
A deathbed confession has led to one of the most fueled treasure hunts of all time. The most popular story of the Lake Michigan gold is that Confederate president Jefferson Davis, was running from Union soldiers after the end of the Civil War.

In early April 1865, Jefferson Davis was attending church when he learned of the breach in Lee's defensive line in Petersburg, Virginia and the threat of the fall of Richmond. Davis' cabinet was notified immediately that Richmond was to be evacuated, as well as the Confederate Treasury.

Davis fled Richmond Virginia in 1865 and was running with all of the treasure and money he could hold, as he knew after the war, he’d need enough to sustain himself in hiding. He was caught by the soldiers eventually, and what happened to the gold after that is under much speculation. After Richmond, Virginia, was captured by Union troops at the end of the Civil War, the majority of the Confederate treasury was taken to Georgia, where much of it was lost.

Was the confederate gold really stolen?
It is rumored that Bank of Tennessee and its Augusta, Georgia branches also had assets seized worth more than half a million dollars. As the Civil War drew to a close, Jefferson Davis carried Georgia's most famous Civil War treasure by wagon. Gold mining, minting of coins, and trading were major industries in the state, thus inspiring these legends.

Davis was told by General Lee he had until early evening to load the gold, valuables, and cabinet members onto two trains. On the last line between Richmond and Danville, Virginia, two trains were scheduled to depart with the men and treasury. Confederate officials would be transported aboard the first train, and the gold would be transported aboard the second train.

Many have said that Robert Horatio George Minty, a Brigadier General in the Civil War, was working as a railroad attendant after the Civil War and was in charge of shipping the treasure to Michigan for the Union soldiers. It is said that he took some to have a necklace made for his wife and the rest was sent on a ferry. The crew of the ferry would later have to push it off of the boat during a storm, causing the boxcar holding millions of dollars worth of treasure to go to the bottom of the lake.

Conflicting Information About the Confederate Gold
One story states that George Alexander Abbot, a banker, was on the brink of death in 1921 when he admitted to his family that he stole Confederate gold. He claimed to have hidden it in a boxcar being shipped on Lake Michigan. This story was passed through the family, but is there any truth to it?

Some say that when Davis was cornered by the Union soldiers, they stole all of the treasure for themselves. Some say that the soldiers turned it over to the government. There are also rumors that the treasure was thrown in Lake Michigan directly or smuggled there, while others say it ended up there by accident. There are some that believe that Minty was there when Davis was captured by Union soldiers, while others believe that he was simply working for the Union soldiers after the war ended. According to one theory, It is believed that nearly all Confederate assets were dispersed to pay returning soldiers, prior to the capture of Davis on May 10, 1865, near Irwinville. Approximately one-third of the remaining funds were left in Washington, Georgia by the Richmond banks.

With all of this conflicting information, it’s difficult to get a solid story together. This has resulted in many treasure hunters and historians debating on whether or not the treasure was ever real in the first place.

What is Confederate Gold worth?
Due to its rarity, Confederate money is worth a lot today. The condition plays a significant role in determining the final price. Gold coins and bars are among the most valuable pieces of Confederate currency. During the Confederacy, coins were issued in the denominations of one cent and fifty cents. Today, both of these items are worth thousands, and there is said to be thousands in the boxcar containing all of the Confederate treasure in Lake Michigan. A portion of the gold was stamped with the Confederate States of America Treasury stamp.

Did Anyone Ever Find the Treasure?
Two treasure hunters, Kevin Dykstra, and Fredrick J. Monroe claimed that they found the treasure though it has not been proven. The pair claims to have found a shipwreck in Lake Michigan in 2011 that directly correlates with the treasure, though they didn’t want to let anyone know about it until they’d consulted more experts. In situations like these, the state of Michigan has the final say in what to do.

Did the FBI find Confederate gold?
A new chapter of the Dents Run gold legend began when FBI agents and state officials unearthed buried gold in Benezette Township, Pennsylvania off Route 555. The case has been at a standstill and there have been no updates in recent years. No one knows whether they found the treasure or not, though there have been rumors that the FBI got involved and went to retrieve it. A gold cache from the Civil War has been discovered, say treasure hunters. The two treasure hunters (father and son) Dennis and Kem Parada believe the government may have found gold and kept it secret to avoid having to give them a cut of the treasure. At the remote Pennsylvania dig site, the FBI says they found nothing. It is now up to them to prove it in an appeals court. Pennsylvania state officials were ordered to produce their communications with the FBI about the excavation, which occurred on state-owned land in the Dents Run region of Elk County. The case had been prompted recently by court documents that were recently released. The gold's location was reportedly discovered by FBI special agent Jacob B. Archer in Elk County at a cave on state-owned property. Furthermore, the gold might be seized by state officials for their own use, prompting him to apply for a federal warrant to do so without out the permission of the state.

How Much Treasure is in Lake Michigan?
As with everything else with this treasure, the rumors vary drastically! Some say the treasure is worth $2 million today, while others claim it is worth as much as $100 million!

The treasure of Lake Michigan and the lost Confederate gold is a huge mystery waiting to be uncovered by skilled treasure hunters. The idea that millions of dollars worth of historic gold is lingering at the bottom of a lake is something that has tempted the brave for years and years.

But does it really exist at all, or is it all folk tales that have been passed down through generations? I’ll leave that to you to decide!

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davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Foragist (Post 3388026)
That website is not accessible. COVERUP! The treasure must be real!

link back up now , but also added a copy and paste of the article

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388044)
link back up now ,....

And every single one of those salacious paragraphs reads like the script right out of the 1970s Treasure Mag's. Every edition issue was packed full of lost mine, stolen loot, blah blah stories. Oh so fun, eh ?

Notice all the key phrases : "It has been said that...." "So & so told their kid sister nephew that ....." Hard to argue with rock solid telephone game transitions like these, eh ? :roll:

Here's an example of the genre :

".... Two treasure hunters, Kevin Dykstra, and Fredrick J. Monroe claimed that they found the treasure though it has not been proven. The pair claims to have found a shipwreck in Lake Michigan in 2011 that directly correlates with the treasure, though they didn’t want to let anyone know about it until they’d consulted more experts. In situations like these, the state of Michigan has the final say in what to do. ..."

Notice the curious use of the word "found" (ie.: past tense). Yet reading further, like all these yarns, their warped use of the word "found" is when they've narrowed it down a certain swamp, lake, canyon, cave, valley, etc.... Rest assured they've "found" (past tense) a fabulous treasure. But lo & behold, they can't retrieve it. Because of pesky government regulations and red-tape. :roll:

Examples like this, from your link, make me immediately doubt all the rest. Sorry.

Pete e 04-26-2022 04:42 PM

:popcorn: :popcorn:

atomicbrh 04-26-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ManInTheWaLL (Post 3387917)
I think it should go to former slaves

Read my quote again!
It is mathematically impossible for the gold to go to former slaves.
The youngest slave if born just minutes before the civil war surrender at Appomattox on April 9, 1865 would be 157 years and 17 days old today.

My quote did not exclude the descendants of slaves.
It included giving the gold to descendants of every person: "slave or free" living in the southern states at the time.
From your reply, you must think slaves and their descendants are not people.
Racism has no place on this forum.

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicbrh (Post 3388073)
... the gold .....

What "gold" ? There is no gold. :?:

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388084)
What "gold" ? There is no gold. :?:

maybe like this https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2...ib=react-9.3.0 :laughing:

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388051)
And every single one of those salacious paragraphs reads like the script right out of the 1970s Treasure Mag's. Every edition issue was packed full of lost mine, stolen loot, blah blah stories. Oh so fun, eh ?

Notice all the key phrases : "It has been said that...." "So & so told their kid sister nephew that ....." Hard to argue with rock solid telephone game transitions like these, eh ? :roll:

Here's an example of the genre :

".... Two treasure hunters, Kevin Dykstra, and Fredrick J. Monroe claimed that they found the treasure though it has not been proven. The pair claims to have found a shipwreck in Lake Michigan in 2011 that directly correlates with the treasure, though they didn’t want to let anyone know about it until they’d consulted more experts. In situations like these, the state of Michigan has the final say in what to do. ..."

Notice the curious use of the word "found" (ie.: past tense). Yet reading further, like all these yarns, their warped use of the word "found" is when they've narrowed it down a certain swamp, lake, canyon, cave, valley, etc.... Rest assured they've "found" (past tense) a fabulous treasure. But lo & behold, they can't retrieve it. Because of pesky government regulations and red-tape. :roll:

Examples like this, from your link, make me immediately doubt all the rest. Sorry.

so you didn't like this story either :laughing:https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/...n/69-124050026 another article on the story https://www.southernpartisan.com/con...lake-michigan/

Tom_in_CA 04-26-2022 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by davidlhyde63366 (Post 3388115)
so you didn't like this story either :laughing:https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/...n/69-124050026

Sorry David. I'm not playing wack-a-mole with any more of these added ghost stories. :sissyfight:

davidlhyde63366 04-26-2022 08:49 PM

Tom not playing wack-a mole with treasure stories
 
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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA (Post 3388127)
Sorry David. I'm not playing wack-a-mole with any more of these added ghost stories. :sissyfight:

sure you will ,just as soon as some one else comments on one of them , you can't help your self .:laughing::laughing::laughing:


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