No mention of the Legend 2 finally being available?

[Diga]

Deliberately obtuse? You see that two other members agree with what I posted and, presumably, also cannot hit a women’s gold chain with a Legend or Equinox. You claim that you can, so I thought you may be able to link a video of someone, anyone, hitting a women’s gold chain at any depth.

This is L2 related, because if the L2 can hit small gold chains it becomes the flagship pound for pound champ.

I wasn’t trying to be obtuse. You quoted my statement of using high frequencies for small chains, and you had previously mentioned detection of small chains in salt ground (where high frequencies don't work well). As such, I wasn't sure what kind of "hitting gold chain video" you were asking for.

Anyway, I've got really low mineralization ground, so I can use settings ideal for hitting small chains. With those settings, I've dug up tiny chains, foil fragments, and gold earring backs so small that my pinpointer often doesn't detect them at all. I use:

1- Small 6" round or 9x5 elliptical.
2- High frequency M2 or Gold Mode (unless in salt ground).
3- First tone break set a few notches below iron.
4- Recovery speed at default or lower.
5- Audio Gain at maximum.
6- Stability at minimum (probably need to raise it in higher conductivity ground.
7- Iron Filter set to minimum.

I checked YouTube for "Nokta Legend gold chains" and skimmed through the top results that were from Paystreak and Detecting NYC. Those were just air tests using M1, which I wouldn't use to find small chains. I don't know what their other settings were. In my quick search, I didn't see any underground small chain tests.

In regard to the L2, apparently improvements were made for the detection of small and lower conductive targets in salt ground.

 

[CountyWorker]

I wasn’t trying to be obtuse. You quoted my statement of using high frequencies for small chains, and you had previously mentioned detection of small chains in salt ground (where high frequencies don't work well). As such, I wasn't sure what kind of "hitting gold chain video" you were asking for.

Anyway, I've got really low mineralization ground, so I can use settings ideal for hitting small chains. With those settings, I've dug up tiny chains, foil fragments, and gold earring backs so small that my pinpointer often doesn't detect them at all. I use:

1- Small 6" round or 9x5 elliptical.
2- High frequency M2 or Gold Mode (unless in salt ground).
3- First tone break set a few notches below iron.
4- Recovery speed at default or lower.
5- Audio Gain at maximum.
6- Stability at minimum (probably need to raise it in higher conductivity ground.
7- Iron Filter set to minimum.

I checked YouTube for "Nokta Legend gold chains" and skimmed through the top results that were from Paystreak and Detecting NYC. Those were just air tests using M1, which I wouldn't use to find small chains. I don't know what their other settings were. In my quick search, I didn't see any underground small chain tests.

In regard to the L2, apparently improvements were made for the detection of small and lower conductive targets in salt ground.

Tiny pieces of foil, that are so small that a pinpointer can’t detect them, and earring backs can light up like Christmas trees. Especially, in low mineralization sand or bark boxes. Equinoxes in any 2 program are excellent at hitting those as well. But, they aren’t fine chain.

Any chance that the small chain that you hit had a larger than usual type of clasp for a fine gold chain? Maybe a larger than you would expect flat piece with a maker’s mark on it?

There’s a reason that it’s a big deal that the D2 and Manticore can hit small gold chain. It’s because they are the only multi purpose SMF machines that can. And the reason that you don’t see any video of anything other than those two machines hitting them.

You can see that M in M, who I believe exclusively uses the Legend, and JM, who does a significant amount of testing, agreeing with me.

Again, if the L2 can hit fine gold chain, which we will certainly see a comparison video done by someone, as well as the D2 and Manticore it’ll be a big deal.

 

[Diga]

CW,

II'm out doing errands. I'll post a full reply to your previous post when I get back to my place later today.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Maybe folks with Legend 2 or those who have ordered and are awaiting their units should be posting here.
Anything else is what.. garbage!
Or how about start a Legend or a Legend 1 thread. Hmm
What a wonder idea !!

 

[Digging Prayers]

obtuse....

Ok, had to look that one up.

adjective:
not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

Synonyms:
dim, slow, boorish, gauche, unobservant, imperceptive, blind, insensitive, tactless, unfeeling
not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form.

So when do we start hearing about the L2?

Sorry to hear of your misfortunes TNSS.
Regardless of the intent, or misunderstanding the purpose of your statements in letting us know your troubles. That's a lot to have over your head. Hearts and prayers are with you.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

obtuse....

Ok, had to look that one up.

adjective:
not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull.

Synonyms:
dim, slow, boorish, gauche, unobservant, imperceptive, blind, insensitive, tactless, unfeeling
not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form.

So when do we start hearing about the L2?

Sorry to hear of your misfortunes TNSS.
Regardless of the intent, or misunderstanding the purpose of your statements in letting us know your troubles. That's a lot to have over your head. Hearts and prayers are with you.

Thanks.
I do still try to helps folks out with detecting and gear. And detect some. I am no position to get involved with manufacturer with new proposed unit testing. I can’t dedicate time for it. Way too much uncertainty. And I would want to do a good job. It takes total dedication and I can’t give that right now.

 

[Diga]

Tiny pieces of foil, that are so small that a pinpointer can’t detect them, and earring backs can light up like Christmas trees. Especially, in low mineralization sand or bark boxes. Equinoxes in any 2 program are excellent at hitting those as well. But, they aren’t fine chain.

The important characteristic that all those targets have in common, is the tiny size that makes it difficult for eddy currents to circulate on them. That also means the signal is very close to the ground signal which makes it hard for the detector to discern between the two. A ground balance is very important to acknowledge that small difference, as well as a properly set iron bias / filter and stability control...which I'll get to.

There’s a reason that it’s a big deal that the D2 and Manticore can hit small gold chain. It’s because they are the only multi purpose SMF machines that can. And the reason that you don’t see any video of anything other than those two machines hitting them.

I can't see how that can be the reason, because there are plenty of various tests (both individual and head to head with the competition), that show particular detectors failing various tests.

Again, if the L2 can hit fine gold chain, which we will certainly see a comparison video done by someone, as well as the D2 and Manticore it’ll be a big deal.

Right. If the Legend 2 fails compared to the Manticore & D2, the video will still be shown...which goes full circle to my previous sentence of a particular detector failing a test.

In previous depth tests in salt and unsalted ground that I've seen with the Legend 1, there was no mention of where the iron filter and stability control was set at. As such, there's a very good chance that both of those settings were at maximum which is the default. Having those settings at max will negatively affect the detector's ability to achieve maximum depth and/or maximum efficiency at detecting tiny targets. The other issue I've seen with various depth tests and various detectors, is the tester will do a short wiggle over the test target and open up the detector as much as possible to detect that target. problem is, can one actually hunt with the detector opened up that much, or would those settings cause falsing when actually hunting?

Well anyway, we'll just have to wait and see if the stated salt ground performance improvements on the L2 will pan out.

 

[stetam]

 

[CountyWorker]

The important characteristic that all those targets have in common, is the tiny size that makes it difficult for eddy currents to circulate on them. That also means the signal is very close to the ground signal which makes it hard for the detector to discern between the two. A ground balance is very important to acknowledge that small difference, as well as a properly set iron bias / filter and stability control...which I'll get to.


I can't see how that can be the reason, because there are plenty of various tests (both individual and head to head with the competition), that show particular detectors failing various tests.



Right. If the Legend 2 fails compared to the Manticore & D2, the video will still be shown...which goes full circle to my previous sentence of a particular detector failing a test.

In previous depth tests in salt and unsalted ground that I've seen with the Legend 1, there was no mention of where the iron filter and stability control was set at. As such, there's a very good chance that both of those settings were at maximum which is the default. Having those settings at max will negatively affect the detector's ability to achieve maximum depth and/or maximum efficiency at detecting tiny targets. The other issue I've seen with various depth tests and various detectors, is the tester will do a short wiggle over the test target and open up the detector as much as possible to detect that target. problem is, can one actually hunt with the detector opened up that much, or would those settings cause falsing when actually hunting?

Well anyway, we'll just have to wait and see if the stated salt ground performance improvements on the L2 will pan out.

Ummm…okay.

Still waiting on the video of a Legend hitting a fine gold chain, which you say you can do.

 

[Digging Prayers]

Is this what your looking for?

Post in thread 'Legend 2'

Feb 13, 2026

I've been watching out for test and comparison videos. Iffy Signals should have his up any day now. Calabash posted a depth test video and a separation/unmasking video. He planned on doing more, but I think he's under 20 ft of snow right now!

Jeff McClendon is one of the U.S. testers. He’s also one of the very few I’ve seen on video who truly understands how to dial in the Legend for specific targets. Jeff just posted an ID comparison between the L1 & L2 on his YT channel. The ID comparison is with various buried targets in his magnetite ground and includes the detection of a fine gold...

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[Casull]

Is this what your looking for?

Post in thread 'Legend 2'

Feb 13, 2026

I've been watching out for test and comparison videos. Iffy Signals should have his up any day now. Calabash posted a depth test video and a separation/unmasking video. He planned on doing more, but I think he's under 20 ft of snow right now!

Jeff McClendon is one of the U.S. testers. He’s also one of the very few I’ve seen on video who truly understands how to dial in the Legend for specific targets. Jeff just posted an ID comparison between the L1 & L2 on his YT channel. The ID comparison is with various buried targets in his magnetite ground and includes the detection of a fine gold...

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Hmm, suddenly quiet.

 

[stetam]

The Legend II seems like it will be a good machine and I was tempted briefly, but anything other than my Manticore is a step backwards IMO.

 

[markinswpa]

The Legend II seems like it will be a good machine and I was tempted briefly, but anything other than my Manticore is a step backwards IMO.

I had the same thought Steve, for a hot second. Since I haven't sold my Legend, and there is a dealer taking trade ins on the L2 I was thinkin hmmm, if I'm going to have a third detector ? M y problem is I only got out 40 times last year. Due to other issues gone are the days of 80 to a 100 hunts a year. So not much time for comparisons any more. The Legend is a solid machine and I got to compare it a half dozen times or so to the 900. I have to say in most instances it out did the 900 in all but one area. The 900 seemed to unmask targets the Legend missed. OK I gotta stop, I may be talkin myself into something I don't want to get into. Hey I saw some grass today !!! Good luck.

 

[Digging Prayers]

Since I haven't sold my Legend, and there is a dealer taking trade ins on the L

hmm...
who is taking trades?

 

[stetam]

I had the same thought Steve, for a hot second. Since I haven't sold my Legend, and there is a dealer taking trade ins on the L2 I was thinkin hmmm, if I'm going to have a third detector ? M y problem is I only got out 40 times last year. Due to other issues gone are the days of 80 to a 100 hunts a year. So not much time for comparisons any more. The Legend is a solid machine and I got to compare it a half dozen times or so to the 900. I have to say in most instances it out did the 900 in all but one area. The 900 seemed to unmask targets the Legend missed. OK I gotta stop, I may be talkin myself into something I don't want to get into. Hey I saw some grass today !!! Good luck.

Hey in addition to the Manticore I still have my Legend and NOX and use the Legend for creek hunting. Good luck getting out this year.

 

[jmadill]

Same issue with the Equinox first a 600 & 800 , than a 600,700.800,900, testing the waters next will be a Equinox 1000 I see Nokta is following suit Legend , Legend 2 , mmmm were does it end , I bet you get the Legend 2 Diga There throwing the chum out right now for you PS you might have to wait another year , so pre-order it right now bro.

I've been waiting years to pull the trigger on a Bounty Hunter V or VI...