Could I spot some can slaw using a metal detector vs a gold ring? Even if the 2 read identical ID in meter for ID when sweeping? Hmm

[tnsharpshooter]

Done give you 2 schoolings on Manticore and CTX.
Yeah, it takes talent and brains to run around a sports field beep and digging = Not!
The talent is finding ways in which to understand and make a detector give you more info on what’s under the coil or maybe better said what’s not under the coil.
And this behavior/capability not expressed in user’s manuals yet the user figures it out = REAL TALENT.
Not the imitation BS talent you profess.
I think detector engineers imo have actually failed or overlooked ways to intentionally capitalize on the use of higher frequency to do what I have been talking about in this thread.
And this HF2 coil behavior is an example. I mean reckon any Xp engineers have watched any of my videos? Hmmm. Or any Minelab Engineers? Hmmm

 

[itsaring!]

NPD for sure!

 

[Cfmct]

The condescending posts when talking to other members stops now TN, if it doesn't the only views this thread will get are from the moderation team it will vanish off the open forum.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Another turf buster showed up. Love it.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Two test subjects. Folded reynolds wrap foil and zincoln penny in good condition.

Tightly folded Reynolds wrap foil. Lowest MF freq read 85. Highest MF freq read 75.

Next the zincoln penny. Lowest MF read 85 Highest MF read 87. Notice the behavior difference with Highest MF comparing the 2 items. Notice the two items read identical using Lowest MF when sweeping. Reynolds wrap foil yields a 10 point ID drop going to highest MF.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Two test subjects. Folded Reynolds wrap foil and bigger 14 k gold ring. Shown together in pic for size comparison.
Each object swept individually in orientation shown in pic.

Folded foil meter behavior shown first - Lowest MF read 72. Highest MF read 69.

14 K gold ring -Lowest MF read 73. Highest MF read 82. Quite the difference in behavior when swept with highest MF. Even though both targets read extremely close when swept with Lowest MF.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

This comment just posted on one of my most recent videos done showing HF2 coil. Thought I would share with you all here.

This is the exact worded comment posted.
“Went to a school playground yesterday using Your method and dug 3 rings and a round charm for a necklace but got fooled by pencil eraser’s because they would ring up low on 29 kHz and higher on 89 kHz but small price to pay to avoid all the can slaw LOL. I tried the method on my platinum ring I found a couple of years ago it rang 52 in 29 kHz and 57 in 89 kHz so it is a winning method in my opinion ”

 

[TexasDigs]

Done give you 2 schoolings on Manticore and CTX.
Yeah, it takes talent and brains to run around a sports field beep and digging = Not!
The talent is finding ways in which to understand and make a detector give you more info on what’s under the coil or maybe better said what’s not under the coil.
And this behavior/capability not expressed in user’s manuals yet the user figures it out = REAL TALENT.
Not the imitation BS talent you profess.
I think detector engineers imo have actually failed or overlooked ways to intentionally capitalize on the use of higher frequency to do what I have been talking about in this thread.
And this HF2 coil behavior is an example. I mean reckon any Xp engineers have watched any of my videos? Hmmm. Or any Minelab Engineers? Hmmm

Lets break this highly inaccurate statement down.

Done give you 2 schoolings on Manticore and CTX.

First you never schooled me on these machines. In fact you copied one of my videos on the CTX and got it wrong at the same time.

Yeah, it takes talent and brains to run around a sports field beep and digging = Not!

Sports fields are just beep and dig for 90% of the finds. The skill comes from the location on the field.
Funny you said I should watch your "how to hunt a soccer field video" but you never find anything good at them.

I also beach hunt and that is also something you know noting about so that's two locations I have you beat in.

Seams to me that most of this hobby is location and technique. just buy the best detector you can afford thats made for the job. very simple.

The talent is finding ways in which to understand and make a detector give you more info on what’s under the coil or maybe better said what’s not under the coil.
And this behavior/capability not expressed in user’s manuals yet the user figures it out = REAL TALENT.

This might be the only slightly true statement so maybe you can explain why you still are buying rings to test and not finding them. You analyze each target looking for reasons not to dig. Rings are under the coil but you just dont know when to dig.

Not the imitation BS talent you profess.

True I dont have a talent for not finding rings as you are clearly gifted in this. Help me understand some basic math.

TexasDigs: simple park hunts get me more then 15 silver and gold rings this year not counting junk ones.
tnsharpshooter: Rings for the year -1. That's correct a negative one because you had to purchase one for testing.

TD = 15
TN = -1

TD - TN = talent

talent = 16 looks like im ahead.

Maybe I should try your method and reduce my ring totals and start a foil collection.

I think detector engineers imo have actually failed or overlooked ways to intentionally capitalize on the use of higher frequency to do what I have been talking about in this thread.
And this HF2 coil behavior is an example. I mean reckon any Xp engineers have watched any of my videos? Hmmm. Or any Minelab Engineers? Hmmm

Who knows what they watch but the foil stack is getting higher on your end.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Test subject. Aluminum mouth piece removed from can. Two were checked from different cans. Same results generally overall looking at both junkers. Lowest MF 52. Highest MF read 55. 111 kHz read 52. Note ID using 111khz single freq results seems to mirror results gotten using Lowest MF for ID which is below ID obtained using Highest MF . Three gold rings reading in and near this ID range were checked. Using Lowest and Highest MF as well as the 111 kHz single frequency. All 3 rings behaved different vs both of the aluminum mouthpieces, all 3 rings ID when using 111 kHz single frequency exceeded ID obtained using Highest MF when sweeping all the gold rings.

 

[stetam]

OMG this is ridiculous.

 

[FelixtheCat]

In the amount of time that has been spent preparing & posting all these ridiculous "facts", I would've found real gold at tot lots in ANY state.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Test subject - Brass screw. This target recovered in small park some weeks ago and called a no digger for gold ring. Was dug to show folks the behavior and aftermath of what was dug.

Lowest MF read 70.
Highest MF read 67.
This is not how any gold ring unbroken has behaved I have tested or any gold ring or platinum for that matter that any of my friends testing various gold rings have behaved using same coil and same MF - lowest and highest checking. One of my friends has seen this (he recovered brass screw yielding similar behavior) in the wild and actually captured on video before he dug. This test subject brass screw sounded good sweeping with the Lowest MF and I also swept it with 13 kHz single frequency. Gold ring range reporting signal and extraordinary good sounding signal. But using highest MF comparing to lowest MF it likely can be eliminated for solo sitting unbroken gold, platinum or perhaps even a junk ring.
This screw was checked in various positions orientation wise. At no time did it yield any ID rise whatsoever when increasing freq compared to lowest MF.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

One of a few targets located yesterday afternoon.
Lowest MF read 51.
Highest MF read 48.
Lowest Single freq 8.8 kHz read 51 suggesting no masking.
Foil.
Notice ID went down as MF was increased. This would suggest not an unbroken lower conductive junk, gold, or platinum ring.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Found this yesterday. Half of a square tab. Did test some others. Doesn’t behave like nickel in highest MF like a nickle does. Does behave like a nickel using lowest MF.
Nickel read 62 lowest MF. Read 65 highest MF.

Half of square tab read 62 lowest MF. Read 67 highest MF.

Note difference in how nickel behaves with highest MF vs the half of a square tab. Remember half of the square tab is still a ring enclosure target.

 

[Steve]

Test subject. Aluminum mouth piece removed from can. Two were checked from different cans. Same results generally overall looking at both junkers. Lowest MF 52. Highest MF read 55. 111 kHz read 52. Note ID using 111khz single freq results seems to mirror results gotten using Lowest MF for ID which is below ID obtained using Highest MF . Three gold rings reading in and near this ID range were checked. Using Lowest and Highest MF as well as the 111 kHz single frequency. All 3 rings behaved different vs both of the aluminum mouthpieces, all 3 rings ID when using 111 kHz single frequency exceeded ID obtained using Highest MF when sweeping all the gold rings.

I'm not an expert with the d2 but on the salt water beach would it be a fair to say that cherry picking gold would have also picked up the aluminum? I've found gold has a range and that aluminum number would be right in it.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

I'm not an expert with the d2 but on the salt water beach would it be a fair to say that cherry picking gold would have also picked up the aluminum? I've found gold has a range and that aluminum number would be right in it.

I can’t say how this would behave in salt sand.
I can say how it behaves in dry sand and at least milder ground mineralization wise.
This is the big plus.
Gold rings unbroken behave different vs lot of aluminum, crusty zincoln Pennie’s, less, brass objects, etc.
The ID using lowest MF can be the same on the gold rings and this junk stuff. Yet higher multi freq the gold rings id behavior gives it away. The same can be said though id wise of pull tabs and pull rings. These will behave more like unbroken gold ring. Granted square tabs and pulls rings generally read 64 plus using the lowest MF using the hf2 coil.
So signals reporting under 65 using the lowest MF yeilding strong to medium strength signsls these could be odds wise be gold rings, possible junk rings, possible plstinum rings, nickels, can slaw, lead, brass, etc. - Yet when freq is increased to highest MF the object if it consist of ring enclosure design like a gold ring, junk ring, platinum ring (unbroken) - id will rise. The non ring enclosure items ID when freq is increased to highest MF will fall, stay the same or give a slight rise.
Lot of can slaw, smalller lead, etc can be dismissed odds wise as being an unbroken gold or platinum ring.
Keep in mind a targetnot behaving ID wise like a gold, junk or platinum ring could still be a worthy target made of precious metal. There is some advantage here to using this process select digging for nickels as well based on ID behavior of target and where it reports ID wise. Lot of things out there can mimick a nickel for ID using the hf2 coil running it in just one of the MF bands as well as running in just one single frequency.
Folks get to decide if they find this process using this coil beneficial to them or not.

 

[goodmore]

I'm not an expert with the d2 but on the salt water beach would it be a fair to say that cherry picking gold would have also picked up the aluminum? I've found gold has a range and that aluminum number would be right in

I'm not an expert with the d2 but on the salt water beach would it be a fair to say that cherry picking gold would have also picked up the aluminum? I've found gold has a range and that aluminum number would be right in it.

On a beach dig everything above iron

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Little test here. Using bigger piece of foil dug earlier today comparing to small 10k gold ring I have. These 2 objects just happen to read very close using the lowest MF the Deus 2 hf2 coil offers- 29 kHz MF channel 0.
Both read 50 using lowest MF.

Foil read 50 using lowest MF.
Foil read 47 using highest MF - 89khz MF channel 6.
Foil read 41 using 111 kHz single frequency.

Gold ring read 50 using lowest MF.
Gold ring read 55 using highest MF - 89 kHz MF channel 6.
Gold ring read 57 using 111 kHz single frequency.

Note ID when increasing frequency when sweeping the foil.
Needless to say. Looking for gold, platinum and junk rings using this model and coil. Foil is your FRIEND. You can’t say this using lot of other machines. And you get to leave your “friend” the foil in the ground for others to dig and keep them busy either digging it or them having to give it a good study for them to either dig or walk.

The data above deemed physics in action.
I’ll let an electrical engineer explain this to you folks.
I’m merely a hick from the sticks. Showing you all this.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Two each square tabs tested. Unmodded and modded. One older design and one new design.
After modifying both yielded different behavior tonally checking using 3 tones and moving tone break for second tone.
After modifying the 2 square tabs behave like the solo gold rings I have. Settings used to test. HF2 coil Lowest MF 29 kHz MF channel 0. Disc 6.8. Silencer -3, reactivity 0. 3 tones first tone default 202 hz, second tone dialed to 518 hz, 3rd tone dialed to 993 kHz. Both square tabs yielded on one id seeeping before modifying.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Experiment. Using HF2 coil and junk ring. This ring found in a park. What you see below is exactly how it behaved before I dug it looking at it with lowest MF and highest MF. I do show the ID of ring using both lowest MF and highest MF. Then I cut the ring. And reswept with lowest MF and highest MF. After cutting the ring and sweeping. The tone achieved when sweeping sounds strange. Almost like there are 2 targets under coil, with slightly varying conductive properties. Far different sound vs the 2 small ladie’s white gold rings I tested some weeks ago.

Uncut ID.
Lowest MF 65
Highest MF 74

Cut ID
Lowest MF 43/44
Highest MF 45.