Need ID on this item

[Darkman]

Hi all,
I found this in the woods today I thought it was a damaged bullet in the casing at frist but there is no lip at the base and it has holes in it. Anyone care to take a guess?

[Kolby72]

It is def a bullet you can see the rifeling on it.. I am not sure what type

[diginupjunk]

ummm I have seen allot of bullets in my day and that is a new one on me I'm just not sure if it is a bullet at all I don't know for sure what it is but I would say maybe 10% chance of being a bullet

[diginupjunk]

Originally Posted by diginupjunk

ummm I have seen allot of bullets in my day and that is a new one on me I'm just not sure if it is a bullet at all I don't know for sure what it is but I would say maybe 10% chance of being a bullet

I could be wrong that does look allot like rifling and the crimp marks but just not sure

[VetStudent]

Sorry, but I also don't think its a bullet.

It could be something electrical, as you'll see that kind of crimping on wires/connectors/etc.

[Kolby72]

I know without a doubt that it is a bullet...Ihave been digging them up for the past 5 years. The rifeling on the sides and the crimping is to keep it in the casing. Bet my next paycheck on it...

[7Creeks]

Looks like a steel core bullet

[Greek2Me]

Nice finds Darkman. What are those two metal strips in the 3rd photo?

G2M

[Geez]

After all the thousands of rounds I've fired...it's definitely a rifle bullet. Not the casing, as you thought but the slug. Most hunting rounds are lead core with a copper jacket like that. In this case, upon expansion, part of the jacket peeled away exposing the core, slightly after it started expanding upon impact. The grooves are marks from the rifling grooves in the barrel.

[007tallguy]

Originally Posted by Kolby72

I know without a doubt that it is a bullet...Ihave been digging them up for the past 5 years. The rifeling on the sides and the crimping is to keep it in the casing. Bet my next paycheck on it...

i will also bet Kolby's paycheque on it being a bullet.
the rifling marks are there clear as day, the crimping around the circumference and the "holes" are there to help keep the lead intact with the outer core. i've seen many just like it.
oh, and for the other question from another poster, those metal strips are harmonica reeds. i dug another one of those just this afternoon!

Pete

[Kolby72]

007tallguy how nice of you to bet my paycheck!

[007tallguy]

Originally Posted by Kolby72

007tallguy how nice of you to bet my paycheck!

well, mine usually aren't worth putting on the line and since you already offered.....

[diginupjunk]

ok guys I agree it does look like just the projectile part NOT the case but here is my problem look close at the top pic at the jacket to be specific it just looks way to thick to be a copper or steel jacketed round to me again I could be wrong but it just don't look right to me

[007tallguy]

Originally Posted by diginupjunk

ok guys I agree it does look like just the projectile part NOT the case but here is my problem look close at the top pic at the jacket to be specific it just looks way to thick to be a copper or steel jacketed round to me again I could be wrong but it just don't look right to me

the base part of those slugs can be quite thick, that's not unusual. often, from the crimped part down to the bottom there is very little lead, just the copper part and it's much thinker at the bottom than it is along the sides/tip of the bullet. it also appears that there's only about a 3rd to half of the actual jacket left there. i don't know what that would have been fired into, but it's sure not flattened out like a lot of them are and the crimp and those other little dimples did their job and helped hold the lead core in place, lol.

[Darkman]

Cool Thank you very much guys!
and if that check is still up for grabs I'll take it
007 those reeds are the 4th ones I have found, 2 each in differnt areas is there anyway to tell how old they are?

[Kolby72]

Originally Posted by Darkman

Cool Thank you very much guys!
and if that check is still up for grabs I'll take it
007 those reeds are the 4th ones I have found, 2 each in differnt areas is there anyway to tell how old they are?

O no im not paying up I was right lol

[007tallguy]

Originally Posted by Darkman

those reeds are the 4th ones I have found, 2 each in differnt areas is there anyway to tell how old they are?

i'm not aware of any way of putting an age on them. neither of the ones i've found have any writing on them and oddly enough, the reeds were the only parts i found. maybe the rest was made from wood in the olden days? knowing the history of my house, i'm guessing mine are from approx 1910 to 1920, give or take 50 years. it's too bad things like that aren't stamped with a name and/or a date. i guess it gives us a little bit of "mystery" for our hobby.