Police arrest MD of dowsing-rod 'bomb detector' firm

[Rudy]

A clever spin on Long Range Locators (LRLs). Sell them to governments as explosive sniffing devices.

Police arrest MD of dowsing-rod 'bomb detector' firm.
Sold 'magic' bomb wands to Iraqi gov for $56,000 each. A British businessman who has made millions selling dowsing-rod "explosives detectors" to the Iraqi security forces has been arrested on suspicion of fraud.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01...detector_bust/

[Westernlegend1]

Maybe they can still use them for truffle hunting in the desert sands.

[Ed in KC]

I've been thinking of developing one of these that will pick out good stocks and commodities, but I don't think I could let them go for only $56,000--well, maybe if I have them made in China.

[Jason in Enid]

They should force him to use his own product in a mine field.

[godigit1]

I bought a long range detector back when I had a little more money to play with. I looked at it for a year before finally taking the demo. Every controlled test I do it works but out in the feild its different I find the dowsing rods go where I think the gold is. I did pick a great spot to dredge with it within 3 feet we were getting nice nuggets. and It has shown me some interesting areas. But whene you and your buddies all get a good reading and you dig 6 feet through old river bed reach the target depth and the signal disappears It was very dissapointing. (it took 2 weekends and three friends taking shifts in the hole to reach 6') I started having doubts and now I find out The guy who sold me this machine is in court for fraud. Last I heard was the judge wants scientific proof, no testimonials or demos . I cant wait to see what happens.
Strange thing is The theory behind it as far as mineral resonation is sound but the recovery method is surly questionable. Key in James Randy on you tube and watch dowsers be proven wrong over and over but they still cant except it.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by godigit1

I bought a long range detector back when I had a little more money to play with. I looked at it for a year before finally taking the demo. Every controlled test I do it works but out in the feild its different I find the dowsing rods go where I think the gold is. I did pick a great spot to dredge with it within 3 feet we were getting nice nuggets. and It has shown me some interesting areas. But whene you and your buddies all get a good reading and you dig 6 feet through old river bed reach the target depth and the signal disappears It was very dissapointing. (it took 2 weekends and three friends taking shifts in the hole to reach 6') I started having doubts and now I find out The guy who sold me this machine is in court for fraud. Last I heard was the judge wants scientific proof, no testimonials or demos . I cant wait to see what happens.
Strange thing is The theory behind it as far as mineral resonation is sound but the recovery method is surly questionable. Key in James Randy on you tube and watch dowsers be proven wrong over and over but they still cant except it.

Just Google "ideomotor effect" and enjoy the read.

The "theory" of "mineral resonation" as applied to Long Range Locators and dowsing rods is totally bogus. It is made to sound like nuclear magnetic resonance, or NMR, which is perfectly valid, but requires some very expensive and sensitive lab equipment in order to measure.

Speaking of Randy,

[Michigan Badger]

Originally Posted by Westernlegend1

Maybe they can still use them for truffle hunting in the desert sands.

good one!

[Michigan Badger]

Originally Posted by Ed in KC

I've been thinking of developing one of these that will pick out good stocks and commodities, but I don't think I could let them go for only $56,000--well, maybe if I have them made in China.

Somebody beat you to it...

[IntoIt]

I wonder how many explosions till they figured it out.

[Voriax]

Funnily enough you get into trouble only when you peddle your snakeoil to governments. If you sell it to average consumer no-one seems to care. This is the reason why I didn't buy my MXT from the largest US metal detector supplier but chose a 'small guy' dealer instead.

Voriax

ps. I think all LRL/dowsing rod/pendulum dealers should be jailed.

Edit: and give them no lube.

[Michigan Badger]

Originally Posted by Voriax

Funnily enough you get into trouble only when you peddle your snakeoil to governments. If you sell it to average consumer no-one seems to care. This is the reason why I didn't buy my MXT from the largest US metal detector supplier but chose a 'small guy' dealer instead.

Voriax

ps. I think all LRL/dowsing rod/pendulum dealers should be jailed.

Edit: and give them no lube.

I agree 100%

Good one!

[Coin_Master]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Just Google "ideomotor effect" and enjoy the read.

The "theory" of "mineral resonation" as applied to Long Range Locators and dowsing rods is totally bogus. It is made to sound like nuclear magnetic resonance, or NMR, which is perfectly valid, but requires some very expensive and sensitive lab equipment in order to measure.

Speaking of Randy,

I believe in dowsing. My dad can actually do it. One time our septic tank backed up. He bent some copper wire, and made the rods. After a few short steps, he dug, and there was the pipe!

[Michigan Badger]

Originally Posted by Detecto

I believe in dowsing. My dad can actually do it. One time our septic tank backed up. He bent some copper wire, and made the rods. After a few short steps, he dug, and there was the pipe!

The theory of dowsing for water or items associated with water does hold some water with some people.

My dad also did it for many years. In fact, people used to make a business of "water witching."

It never worked for me cause I guess I'm too much of a realist and deep inside I didn't buy it. I don't go for voodoo of any shape or fashion.

If these dowsers ever really did find water that otherwise would have been missed, I think there's another explanation for it beyond dowsing. Perhaps some sense within the human body? Animals have been known to find water when humans couldn't.

But personally I think here in Michigan the underground streams are so wide one has a lot of room for error when it comes to dowsing.

Some folks claim they can find caches and even individual coins by dowsing a map. To me that's a fairy story.

[tabdog]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Just Google "ideomotor effect" and enjoy the read.

The "theory" of "mineral resonation" as applied to Long Range Locators and dowsing rods is totally bogus. It is made to sound like nuclear magnetic resonance, or NMR, which is perfectly valid, but requires some very expensive and sensitive lab equipment in order to measure.

Speaking of Randy,

Hay Rudy,

You are right about the "theory" of "mineral resonation" as
applied to Long Range Locators being a lot of "who shot John"

But there are other avenues that ine

can travel to achieve successful

long range detection.

Well, with the advancements in GPS

receivers and wireless technology, I

have been able to transmit and receive

wirelessly for great distances using

a normal metal detector.

Any metal detector will produce a

workable signal for long range detection.

Both transmission and and receiving

signals I use transported, via GPS-r1

phase lyniayerd tracking processors.

I recently finished attaching my first

prototype.

It is mounted on a Silver Sabre uMax.

When I first turned it on,

It read " Heading = 219 degrees 43

minutes and 27.8623272 seconds"

With a distance reading of.............

" 214,493.76343282 feet "



Well needless ta say, I jumped in

my car and ended up drivin fourty

two miles before I come up on this

one.



Not a bad day detectin in Arkie Land,

[RickO]

Great one Tabdog.... Dowsing is all myth..it has been disproven so many times it is hard to even count. Large monetary rewards have been offered and never collected. One can believe in anything, it does not make it so. RickO

[Michigan Badger]

Originally Posted by tabdog

Hay Rudy,



Not a bad day detectin in Arkie Land,

tabdog, thanks for sharing the photo of the dowser man. I now am the 2nd ugliest man on earth.

[Gander]

Ok, I'm coming out of the closet and I know I will get feed back on this subject. I use dowsing rods for finding water lines and electrical lines in the ground. I use two copper wires bent into a "L" shape and held loosely in my hand or in a pvc pipe. I like in my hand better cause I can feel the slightest movement. There is a way to tell how deep the lines are, but I have not practiced that myself. But I can pinpoint the lines in the ground. The rods swing in to my chest whenever I come upon a wire. And they move out away or until the are perpendicular to each other with water. I once had someone drive me down the road and every overhead electrical wire we went under, the rods would move towards each other and then back again to normal. Now that was just plain weird.
I tried to prove to someone that I wasn't moving the rods myself. I had them blindfold me and with the rods in pvc pipe, they would then lay a copper wire or measuring tape on the ground in front of me. Then as I moved forward, as soon as I was over the metal, the rods crossed. I had them yelling at me No Way Dude, No WAY...
I have never tried using them for MDing, yet.

[EncrustedYen]

Originally Posted by Rudy

A clever spin on Long Range Locators (LRLs). Sell them to governments as explosive sniffing devices.

Police arrest MD of dowsing-rod 'bomb detector' firm.
Sold 'magic' bomb wands to Iraqi gov for $56,000 each. A British businessman who has made millions selling dowsing-rod "explosives detectors" to the Iraqi security forces has been arrested on suspicion of fraud.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01...detector_bust/

OMG I hope they put that guy in jail for life! Unbelievable story.

[coae]

Hey I have found over the internet the ATSC LTD website. Which is an explosives detector.
What do you think about that?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by coae

Hey I have found over the internet the ATSC LTD website. Which is an explosives detector.
What do you think about that?

James McCormick, the principal of ATSC and the ADE 651 explosive detector has been arrested for fraud by the British government.

What do I think? It took too long for him to be arrested.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6997859.ece
http://viewfromll2.com/2010/01/22/ji...on-still-free/

http://thebln.com/2010/01/jim-mccorm...-death-misery/
http://gizmodo.com/#!5455692/ade+651...illed-hundreds