Friendly Metal Detecting Forums   Quality Metal Detectors
List all sponsors

Go Back   Friendly Metal Detecting Forums > Metal Detecting > Coinshooters and Relic Hunters

Reply
  
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-18-2018, 09:07 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default Some finds at an 1800's farm house

This farm house existed in 1857 but unknown how much earlier. Aerial photos show a roof in 1938 and no roof in 1948.
Been there a number of times and the newest junk are plastic shotgun shells and these are heavily weathered so guessing maybe 1960/70's.

LOTS and LOTS of iron, steel sheeting and nails. About 95% of nails are cut but some look like they may be square (hand forged). Found a few house shoes, cast iron door and shutter parts, and misc odds and ends.

But there have been some big surprises.

Pictures of a few of the best finds:

Bell: without the iron clapper. Maybe a Door bell or for horse cart?
Date?

Spoons: left two are pewter, next is unknown but might be same as the bell, right is cast iron that might have had a baked enamel/ceramic on it.

US coins: 1901 Indian Head, 1919 & 1916 Buffalo.

British coin: King George I Half penny, 1723.

Colonial Shoe buckle, brass.

Oval cast brass buckle. Attachment method could be Civil war or after. This looks to be the same size and shape as both US & CS oval buckle.

Is this a post CW civilian buckle?
OR possibly a CW buckle that someone filed off the raised rim and letters?
Note two 'grind' marks on the back side bottom. Could maker/army marks have been there and removed?
Attached Images
            
Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 06-18-2018, 09:30 PM
jack&jill's Avatar
jack&jill jack&jill is online now
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: In Wisconsin's now thawed Tundra
Posts: 8,215
Default

Very cool fines Walt. A lot of history for sure. Hope somebody can give you more info on the Buckle. Trapper

__________________
2018 235 Sil. 5 Ster 3 IH 432 Wt's 205.14 clad 2017 167 Wt's, 2 IH's, 107 Sil, $102.13 clad, 6-925 Ster.,

Reply With Quote


  #3  
Old 06-18-2018, 09:59 PM
JAK's Avatar
JAK JAK is offline
Supporter
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Montgomery County, PA
Posts: 2,215
Default

Nice finds for sure...I like KG half penny...congrats!

__________________
Equinox 800

Oldest coin: 1760 Colonial Half Penny; Oldest US coin: 1796 Large Cent; Oldest US silver coin: 1861 Liberty Seat Dime; 2017 Y/E Clad: $616.38: 2018 Y/E: TBA

Coin record amounts found on one of various days: Quarters-113; Dimes-86; Nickels-53

Reply With Quote


  #4  
Old 06-19-2018, 01:18 AM
Saoirse's Avatar
Saoirse Saoirse is online now
Supporter
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 479
Default

Some nice stuff there!

__________________
AT Pro | Nokta Impact

Reply With Quote


  #5  
Old 06-19-2018, 06:12 AM
rustyk1's Avatar
rustyk1 rustyk1 is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Gaston SC
Posts: 686
Default

very nice finds, congrats!

__________________
Oldest coin 1800 lg cent, oldest silver 1829 British sixpence, best coin 1921 standing q. in ef40, strangest find silver spoon in tree root. BOSTON STRONG

Reply With Quote


  #6  
Old 06-19-2018, 10:47 AM
Gimmie The Loot's Avatar
Gimmie The Loot Gimmie The Loot is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Driftwood, TX
Posts: 927
Default

Hey nice finds.

The buckle may be CSA. From what I've read a lot of the stuff they used were unmarked and plain looking as they needed to manufacture supplies cheaply. The north had the extra money to spend on fancy buckles and such.

I found a flat horse bridle rosette once and some CW experts told me it is probable to be CSA for that reason, not everything was labeled, specially if you were not an officer.

The front does look like I see a faint V or upside down A.

__________________
The future of detecting is up to you. Do it right.

Reply With Quote


  #7  
Old 06-19-2018, 01:00 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Thanks for the response on the oval buckle.

As you said 'may be' which is a good answer to many items we find.
I see the 'A' you point out but it is asymmetric, left is vertical and right at an angle. Also the angle is smaller than the letter A in CSA and in the wrong place. Looking closely at the buckle, in my hand, this is just an artifact of wear, coloring/patina, and lighting.

Been doing a little more research on CW buckles and seem most were stamped sheet brass then back filled with lead.
But have seen posted others that were solid brass casting like the one I have.
Any thought on solid brass casting??

Anyway it does seem to be around mid 1800's.

This old farm house site has been interesting. Only early 1900 coins except for the 1723 KG. Anything else I have been able to date is very late 1800's or very early 1900's. My guess is this was never a 1700's home site but the family brought old 1700's stuff with them.
Keep thinking I'll find a half dime next.

It is only some of the pewter and iron work that may be earlier 1800's but this is only guessing.

I'll be sorting through and cleaning all the nails I've found and getting pictures to post. Some of these nails I find interesting.

Last edited by waltr; 06-19-2018 at 06:12 PM.
Reply With Quote


  #8  
Old 06-19-2018, 05:50 PM
WyoTom's Avatar
WyoTom WyoTom is online now
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,290
Default

Awesome finds! Great job!

__________________
CTX3030 & Equinox 800
YTD 2018 (107)Wheats (2)IHP (27)Silver coins
(2)Buffs (4)Vís (5)Tokens (2)Silver jewelry
(3)Gold jewelry ($41.82)Clad

Reply With Quote


  #9  
Old 06-19-2018, 06:56 PM
claddy claddy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 399
Default Iíll take that any day

Good haul and good luck next hunt .
Reply With Quote


  #10  
Old 06-19-2018, 07:01 PM
claddy claddy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 399
Default Looks early pound that good

Love the buckle and all spoons would of thought more buttons are there
Reply With Quote


  #11  
Old 06-19-2018, 09:45 PM
foreverRich's Avatar
foreverRich foreverRich is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 5,730
Smile Some finds at an 1800's farm house

Certainly a nice collection of artifacts and coins. The site certainly has a lot of potential. Never know what all that iron might be hiding. With patience you might find something really special. Good luck on your future hunts.

__________________
Bounty Hunter Discovery 3300, Gamma 6000, GTA 1000

"ENJOY LIFE IT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU GET"

Reply With Quote


  #12  
Old 06-19-2018, 11:34 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Thanks everyone. Yes, big potential.
One Buffalo and the KG halfpenny were hiding under iron, A door hinge and a 1 1/2" ring. I plan to go back over the areas I clean the iron out of with more sensitivity/gain and/or a different coil.

Most objects have only been 2-4 inches deep but the Shoe buckle was 7 inches. It took a bit of digging before my pin pointer found it. So might need a bigger digging tool.

I found one small button like object but not sure if it is a button or a snap cover. It is brass and looks like a numeral '1' on the face. I'll be taking and posting more pictures so will be sure to include this. Agree, I thought I would find some buttons.

I did find 2 "hosiery fasteners" with a name and patent dates. Google showed a full page ad in the Dry Goods Reporter from 1902 describing the courts upholding the patent and warning about prosecution of patent violators. They seem to be 1889 to maybe 1900.

There are a bunch of other odds and end as well as some great iron pieces. will be posting pictures of these also.
Reply With Quote


  #13  
Old 06-20-2018, 10:44 AM
Vermonster's Avatar
Vermonster Vermonster is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 8,151
Default

Wow, great variety!

__________________
2 V Nickels, 1 B. Nic, 3 IHP's, 10 Wheaties, 19 rings (1-Gold, 6-slvr), 4 Slvr coin (2 Seated Q's, 2 Morgans), Oldest: Mid-Late 1700s Chinese Cash Coin

Reply With Quote


  #14  
Old 06-21-2018, 09:09 PM
Dsm_mechva's Avatar
Dsm_mechva Dsm_mechva is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Mechanicsville, Va.
Posts: 4,725
Default

I would look up

Regulation 1808 Pattern shoulder belt plate

..for your oval buckle

__________________
Deus 11"/9"/HF Elliptical
MI-6, Pro-Pointer AT, Sampson, Ranger, DigMaster

Past Detectors: Vaquero/AT Pro/AT Gold/Quattro/F70/X-Terra 30/Delta 4000/Freedom 3 CDC/T2 LTD2/1265-X/1225-X/1212-X/1210-X/Amphibian/Gold Bug/MX Sport/Makro Racer/F75 LTD2

Reply With Quote


  #15  
Old 06-22-2018, 09:21 AM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Originally Posted by Dsm_mechva View post
I would look up

Regulation 1808 Pattern shoulder belt plate

..for your oval buckle
Wow, wow that's it --Thank you.
That is the clue I needed.


It is a bit older then I guessed.

Any thoughts on the two grind marks on the back?
Looks like someone remover maker makes.

Last edited by waltr; 06-22-2018 at 07:16 PM.
Reply With Quote


  #16  
Old 06-22-2018, 07:29 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Ok, more pictures as promised.

First two pictures are all the Iron/steel finds, one pic for each 2-3 hour hunt. Some neat stuff there.
Cast iron shutter and rain gutter parts. Lots of cut/square nails of various sizes. Some unknown cast iron, Barb wire (upper left) and shotgun shells heads. Horse shoe and knife pieces.
Second- another horse shoe, more cut nails, a broken cast iron door lock and an old spark plug (no marking visible).

Pic 3: D.M & Co lock with brass key hole cover. Company went out of business in 1910. Forged spike and ring. Another steel/iron spoon handle.

Pic 4: Misc stuff from top left across then down:
Unknown bracket- silvery brass?
BOYDíS GENUINE PORCELAIN LINED CAP 9, with Zinc screw lid pieces
Two brass parts with rubber diaphragm and tube ??
2- Hosiery fasteners- Velvet Grip, PAT 1-28-80 & 12-31-85
4- chromed brass for leather bug flap.
Brass lid?
Pock knife
Worked piece of flint
Cast iron fork for 1700's
cast iron draw pull, PAT 18??

Pic 5 & 6:
Barasol cap (shaving cream?), upper right are brass, right most is thin (might be a decorative cap for a metal rod).
Bottom right: button or snap cover or type writer key "1"??
It is 9/16 inch diameter.
Last is bottom views.
Attached Images
      
Reply With Quote


  #17  
Old 06-24-2018, 09:17 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Indian Head penny find- see this thread:
https://www.metaldetectingforum.com/...d.php?t=262735

Picture of all the other finds today.

Need to clean up that hammer and figure what trade used it.
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote


  #18  
Old 06-30-2018, 07:08 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Another 4 hour hunt today at this farm. Really hot day so stayed in the wooded, shady areas.
Picture of All find then close up of the good stuff:
Another 1700's iron form, pewter spoon, a steel button, couple a bullets and a decorative brass piece.

See this thread on the coin:
https://www.metaldetectingforum.com/...23#post2970023
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote


  #19  
Old 06-30-2018, 08:31 PM
matmit's Avatar
matmit matmit is online now
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between Milwaukee and Kenosha
Posts: 11,280
Default

Dude, you dig more than I do!
It looks like that may be a tinner's hammer.

__________________
"We all have a hunk of something we hope will be valuable one day"
AT-MAX, AT-PRO YTD $79.87 (4)gold (33)silver (4)ster (1)FE (11)IH (128)wheatie Oldest 1802 KG III, Silver Dollar Club!

Reply With Quote


  #20  
Old 06-30-2018, 10:50 PM
waltr waltr is offline
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: SE Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
Default

Originally Posted by matmit View post
Dude, you dig more than I do!
It looks like that may be a tinner's hammer.
Thanks for the hint on the hammer for web searching.
I am planning to run electrolysis on it. Will post pic when cleaned up.
Reply With Quote


Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.