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Old 01-06-2017, 06:41 PM
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Awesome work man! Wondering what would hapen if instead of welding a gooseneck you cut a slit in the bottom of the handle and an appropriate sized notch in the top of the foot pad so it could slide over and then weld on both sides?

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Awesome work man! Wondering what would hapen if instead of welding a gooseneck you cut a slit in the bottom of the handle and an appropriate sized notch in the top of the foot pad so it could slide over and then weld on both sides?
I was thinking about that for another project. I think it may be a good idea. With these I was trying to somewhat replicate the Sampson while just winging it at the same time. I may try to build a good hand digger when these are completed and might use you're idea.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:40 AM
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Again, awesome work, i wish i could fab like that...

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Hey, looks real nice. Couple of questions for you: Is that just 11 GA mild steel that you used for the blade? Now that you've had a chance to use the shovel for a while, how well is it holding up? Any bending? You mentioned that it was a bit heavy.. Do you think thats due to the thickness of the pipe you used for the handle or the thickness of the blade?

I'm working on a shovel of my own so I'd like to hear your feedback. I know the ones from Predator and Lesche are made from 4130, heat treated and tempered so I'm really curious how well plain old mild steel will hold up after some heavy use. I'd like to make mine as light as possible while still being durable so still debating on what thickness to use for the blade. The blade on my Sampson mics at .104 so I was thinking of using 12ga.

The one I designed will be sort of a cross between a Sampson and the Predator Tools Ranger. A little more aggressive and longer than the Sampson, but not as big and bulky as the Ranger.

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Hey, looks real nice. Couple of questions for you: Is that just 11 GA mild steel that you used for the blade? Now that you've had a chance to use the shovel for a while, how well is it holding up? Any bending? You mentioned that it was a bit heavy.. Do you think thats due to the thickness of the pipe you used for the handle or the thickness of the blade?

I'm working on a shovel of my own so I'd like to hear your feedback. I know the ones from Predator and Lesche are made from 4130, heat treated and tempered so I'm really curious how well plain old mild steel will hold up after some heavy use. I'd like to make mine as light as possible while still being durable so still debating on what thickness to use for the blade. The blade on my Sampson mics at .104 so I was thinking of using 12ga.

The one I designed will be sort of a cross between a Sampson and the Predator Tools Ranger. A little more aggressive and longer than the Sampson, but not as big and bulky as the Ranger.

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Thanks rattlehead. Mine, the one with the single serration has been getting plenty of heavy use with the MD, in the garden, and even used it to chop down a couple saplings like an axe. Not even the slightest sign of bending. It has pried some pretty hefty rocks out with no trouble at all. I did have to sharpen it up a touch once. I did end up using 11 gauge mild steel for the blade and think the extra weight is contributed to the handle ,which is 1" schedule 40 and 33" long, along with the 3/4" solid cold rolled for the gooseneck. The sampson uses 5/8 hollow for the neck and seemed to be the weak point in the design. I'll live with the extra weight. This thing has been a sheer brute. If I was to build another, I would use a blade design similar to yours. That's the beauty of DIY. You get exactly what you want. I hope I could help, and feel free to ask anything else. Good luck with your project. Looking forward to seeing what you end up with.
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Appreciate the info and glad to hear yours is holding up well! I'm gonna cut out a few next week and then try to find something suitable for the handle. I may just go with 1" schedule 40 as well. Will keep you posted.


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Appreciate the info and glad to hear yours is holding up well! I'm gonna cut out a few next week and then try to find something suitable for the handle. I may just go with 1" schedule 40 as well. Will keep you posted.


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It will add a little extra weight, but there is something oddly satisfying about chopping down small trees with your favorite shovel.
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It will add a little extra weight, but there is something oddly satisfying about chopping down small trees with your favorite shovel.

All done. Let me know what you think.

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That looks excellent!
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just one quick question .. did you just weld the handle to the bent rod .. ?

asking cuz and Im no Welder .. seems to me a weak point .. maybe drill a hole in the shaft and weld it there as well .. two points instead of the one ..

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That's some very nice work!

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Beautiful work indeed. Particularly impressed with your welds. Nicely done sir.

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead View post
Hey, looks real nice. Couple of questions for you: Is that just 11 GA mild steel that you used for the blade? Now that you've had a chance to use the shovel for a while, how well is it holding up? Any bending? You mentioned that it was a bit heavy.. Do you think thats due to the thickness of the pipe you used for the handle or the thickness of the blade?



I'm working on a shovel of my own so I'd like to hear your feedback. I know the ones from Predator and Lesche are made from 4130, heat treated and tempered so I'm really curious how well plain old mild steel will hold up after some heavy use. I'd like to make mine as light as possible while still being durable so still debating on what thickness to use for the blade. The blade on my Sampson mics at .104 so I was thinking of using 12ga.



The one I designed will be sort of a cross between a Sampson and the Predator Tools Ranger. A little more aggressive and longer than the Sampson, but not as big and bulky as the Ranger.



Thanks!
I'm starting my shovel mod. Going to use your template, if you don't mind. Starting with a Kbolt steel drain shovel. My dimensions are just a tad different due to the base shovel. Here is the start.

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I'm starting my shovel mod. Going to use your template, if you don't mind. Starting with a Kbolt steel drain shovel. My dimensions are just a tad different due to the base shovel. Here is the start.
Looks like itíll be a good one! Let us know how it holds up after some use.




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Looks like itíll be a good one! Let us know how it holds up after some use.




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I'll keep the group updated on how the project goes and how well it works.

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Kind of a slow day at work today, so I got to work on the shovel. Here are the in process and the finished product pictures.

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Looks great! I'm just curious how that pointed tip will hold up after some heavy use. Keep us posted.

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead View post
Looks great! I'm just curious how that pointed tip will hold up after some heavy use. Keep us posted.
I rounded it a little, but I'll let you know how it holds up.

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