National parks

[bigstemz]

Awhile ago someone posted detailed laws about detecting in national parks. Does anyone know the link? It is often believed and told that it is illegal in national parks but I remember reading from the detailed bylaw that it intact not illegal. I nned this link and can't find it!

[Cfmct]

http://www.fmdac.org/parks/parks.htm

[midas]

Originally Posted by Cfmct-PI

http://www.fmdac.org/parks/parks.htm

The above link is State Parks not National Parks.

You can not detect in National Parks.

http://www.nps.gov/index.htm

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5013382_la...detectors.html

[motor20]

so you have to check. Each forest has its own ranger and he makes alot of the rules.

[Irons]

National park or National forest? Luckily I have National forests around here.

Be sure to check state laws on thier websites and laws for specific parks before totally writing it off.


http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/hmnf...rocks-minerals

[Irons]

Originally Posted by midas

The above link is State Parks not National Parks.

You can not detect in National Parks.

http://www.nps.gov/index.htm

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5013382_la...detectors.html

The guy in one of your posts is wrong, you can detect in some areas of some Michigan state parks.

Always do your own DD folks before going or writing an area off.


http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...7922--,00.html

[midas]

Originally Posted by Irons

The guy in one of your posts is wrong, you can detect in some areas of some Michigan state parks.

Always do your own DD folks before going or writing an area off.


http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...7922--,00.html

The thread is about NATIONAL Parks not STATE parks.

[dogpound]

According to the code of regulations for the National Park Service, metal detectors are strictly forbidden within national parks. This applies to magnetometers, side-scan sonar devices, and other detection devices. Anyone using a metal detector or found in possession of one within a national park is subject to a fine. Regulations exempt metal detectors which have been dismantled and properly stowed to prevent use. They may be transported through a national park so long as they are never used or fully assembled.

[MadTownScoop]

Dont try detecting on ANY State owned land in Wisconsin, at least for now. County land and private yes. State parks are strictly off limits without certain credentials meaning. You must first disclose what you are looking for, (Specific item) and you may only look for THAT item and when you find it you must cease detecting. Also, you MUST Turn over anything else of value that you find as it surely belongs to someone else. Wisconsin .. jeesh. I even asked if I could detect in the water on Lake Kegonsa at the state park, WATER Is everyones. The response I got was " So long as you stay OUT of the roped off area". Since when does anyone own anything under water??? I should just wait till fall or just after ice out and hit the water covered beach sand then. Hey, I'm not in the roped off section cause they aren't any ropes right? LOL. Either way. Call the state agencies involved with the property. They can tell you and if they tell you no ask the "Code or Ordinance number please" so you can look it up yourself.

[aironeous]

Originally Posted by Irons

National park or National forest? Luckily I have National forests around here.
Be sure to check state laws on their websites and laws for specific parks before totally writing it off.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/hmnf...rocks-minerals

And to further clarify things ......or not
You can detect on BLM land. From http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/iac...detecting.html
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"Metal detecting is a recreational activity that people do to find coins, jewelry, and precious metals. Metal detecting is allowed on BLM lands as long as no artifacts are removed. Artifacts should be left alone and reported to the appropriate Field Office. Avoid all cultural and archeological sites. The Metal Detecting enthusiast may remove some rocks (handful) from areas such as picnic areas, campground areas, and recreational sites. The enthusiasts may remove some rocks as long as the rocks are not being removed from another mining claim. Mining claims can be researched on the LR2000 (http://www.blm.gov/lr2000). Enthusiasts are only allowed to make minimal surface disturbance (i.e. removing a couple of stones for memories).

If you have any questions regarding your activities, then please contact the appropriate Field Office for authorization."
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Going back one page a little more information and guidelines are here
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/prog/recreation/rocks.html

There is also a pdf describing in detail how to stake a claim on BLM land if you find gold, silver, or other profitable minerals here
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial...ningClaims.pdf
and it does mention the national forest service if I'm remembering correctly

There is a summary of that long pdf here:http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/iac/faqmc.html

I guess what you are supposed to do is go use this map here http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMa...MAP=SiteMapper
and look up the coordinates and info regarding the area you want to search

and then use that data to run a report using this thing here
http://www.blm.gov/lr2000/ which i still do not understand how to use yet.
*sigh

[HarveyH48]

Each National Park or Forest, has an office, and someone to answer questions. There are a lot of things that are banned, and there are a lot of exceptions, and permits available, and allow you to part take in various activities, at specific times/dates, in specific areas. Just because something is general against rules and policies, they do allow many of those things, but keep it tightly controlled. Each will be different, and you would need to contact them individually. They want to protect and preserve the land, and need to control access and use, by the general public. Permits allow them to keep control, and know when and where to make sure people aren't abusing the land.

[Milhaus]

NPS appears to be tampering with the documents that were available on their website. Here is a copy cached on Google servers.

Search the document for the word coin, that is the part that blows gaping holes in their argument about everything on Federal land being an archaeological resource.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...law/43cfr7.htm

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...hRsrcsProt.pdf

This is new. I don't think I need to point out the subtext of this change. http://www.nps.gov/archeology/tools/Laws/arpa.htm