water pin pointers.

alumaman · Mar 18, 2013

Looking for anyone who has a Vibratector 730. I can't seem to find any info on the depth the 730 will detect a target. Also any input on how much you do or do not like the 730 and why. Thanks for any help you can give me on this.

MiTreasureHunter · Mar 18, 2013

Very limited info out there on the 730. Some YouTube videos. It looks like the most common use for the 730 is snorkeling. I have tried the 580 before and plan on adding one to my inventory.

Cfmct · Mar 18, 2013

The depth of this tiny PI is about 3 inches... I'm sure you can use it while snorkling but I see no use for it water hunting to find a target unless you are dumping your scooped material into a sifter.

alumaman · Mar 18, 2013

Thanks for the info on the 730. I'm trying to decide on a water pin pointer and so far i'm leaning toward the 580.

Caribbeanson · Mar 18, 2013

I have used both the 580 and the 730 here's my take:

The 580:
1. Very precise with target location I.D. If it vibrates, that target is directly underneath the tip.
2. The depth is probably about 3" as Craig mentioned.
3. The on/off for the 580 is more responsive than the 730, making for quicker actions.

The 730:
A little bigger and bulkier, but does cover more area than the 730. However, because of its size, it doesn't allow for the nice pinpointing of the 580. Depth is a little less than the 580 as well I feel. The ligth is nice if you can't always feel the vibrations, the light pulses as the detector vibrates.

My uses for these mini-detectors have been:
1. Very useful for fanning and digging targets out of tight rock spaces and underwater honeycomb rock. This is even more so when you use a detector without pinpoint mode as you might have 3 or 4 holes under 4" of sand and the target is in one of those 4 rock holes.
2. I found a use for it in some of the deep powder sand where the sand collapses back in as you scoop. Here I have the pinpointer in one hand, and scoop and move sand with the other hand, getting my hands and the pinpointer deeper and deeper. As mentioned, it only vibrates when the target is directly under the tip so you know where to go. Of course you would have had to find the target with a full size detector first.
3. The 580 was also useful for me when I was around some tight large rocks in the wet sand. A scoop was completely useless for this so I found the target with the Dualfield, then would use the 580 to pick it out between the rocks.
4. I did try to use the 730 solo on some tide pools and found a nail and an ironladen rock, however I think if there was any gold there, the 730 might not be responsive enough to pick it out of the 5" deep sand in the tide pools. Also feeling for vibrations while bumping into rocks is kind of hard as well.

One thing that should be mentioned, but makes logical sense: It is a metal detector, so it will have a frequency. I found we couldn't use the CZ-21 or the Dualfield while the pinpointer was also on, the threshold is too unstable.

They are very rugged, and waterproofing is good as well. Making sure it doesn't come on in your bag is a little difficult, but its nice there are no buttons to worry about. The tilt function works good when you're trying to cut it on/off.

CanSlaw · Mar 18, 2013

I have a 560 but I rarely use it. It came with a detector I bought, but it takes more time to grab the pin-pointer, turn it on, then look for the target than it does to just shake the scoop out or kick the pile of wet sand exposing the targets. When I only have about 2 hours in my area of low tide, time for target recovery is important to me. However my hunting is in sugar sand and the targets are easy to recover, on gravel beaches with the targets the same color as the gravel, I find the pin pointer helpful.

alumaman · Mar 18, 2013

Caribbeanson said:
I have used both the 580 and the 730 here's my take:

The 580:
1. Very precise with target location I.D. If it vibrates, that target is directly underneath the tip.
2. The depth is probably about 3" as Craig mentioned.
3. The on/off for the 580 is more responsive than the 730, making for quicker actions.

The 730:
A little bigger and bulkier, but does cover more area than the 730. However, because of its size, it doesn't allow for the nice pinpointing of the 580. Depth is a little less than the 580 as well I feel. The ligth is nice if you can't always feel the vibrations, the light pulses as the detector vibrates.

My uses for these mini-detectors have been:
1. Very useful for fanning and digging targets out of tight rock spaces and underwater honeycomb rock. This is even more so when you use a detector without pinpoint mode as you might have 3 or 4 holes under 4" of sand and the target is in one of those 4 rock holes.
2. I found a use for it in some of the deep powder sand where the sand collapses back in as you scoop. Here I have the pinpointer in one hand, and scoop and move sand with the other hand, getting my hands and the pinpointer deeper and deeper. As mentioned, it only vibrates when the target is directly under the tip so you know where to go. Of course you would have had to find the target with a full size detector first.
3. The 580 was also useful for me when I was around some tight large rocks in the wet sand. A scoop was completely useless for this so I found the target with the Dualfield, then would use the 580 to pick it out between the rocks.
4. I did try to use the 730 solo on some tide pools and found a nail and an ironladen rock, however I think if there was any gold there, the 730 might not be responsive enough to pick it out of the 5" deep sand in the tide pools. Also feeling for vibrations while bumping into rocks is kind of hard as well.

One thing that should be mentioned, but makes logical sense: It is a metal detector, so it will have a frequency. I found we couldn't use the CZ-21 or the Dualfield while the pinpointer was also on, the threshold is too unstable.

They are very rugged, and waterproofing is good as well. Making sure it doesn't come on in your bag is a little difficult, but its nice there are no buttons to worry about. The tilt function works good when you're trying to cut it on/off.

Thank you for such a thorough review of the 580 and 730 pin pointers. This is exactly what i needed to make the right decision. I looked at the 730 as maybe less searching with the coil but it seems that is not really the case and the tip only sensor on the 580 has me sold. I'm using ATPros at this time but will at some point up grade to a cz21 or the excal 2. First year diving and i better make sure it's for me before investing any more into it. AT three grand not counting detectors cost :shock:

Again thank you and may you have a great year. :cool:

alumaman · Mar 18, 2013

CanSlaw said:
I have a 560 but I rarely use it. It came with a detector I bought, but it takes more time to grab the pin-pointer, turn it on, then look for the target than it does to just shake the scoop out or kick the pile of wet sand exposing the targets. When I only have about 2 hours in my area of low tide, time for target recovery is important to me. However my hunting is in sugar sand and the targets are easy to recover, on gravel beaches with the targets the same color as the gravel, I find the pin pointer helpful.

Thanks for your review on the 580. I have decided to go with it after reading what everyone had to say about the two. Have a great year. :cool:

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