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Old 07-21-2017, 08:42 AM
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As you and Terry have stated and most agree. I've been sitting on this video for 4 months because I know it will cause drama if not take for what it is. I did a freshly buried nickel battle with F75 LTD, Deus, Omega, and Etrac and it's totally not equal considering the coils sizes but that's not the point. It does give you and idea of how well machines ID deeper coins though...enjoy!


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As you and Terry have stated and most agree. I've been sitting on this video for 4 months because I know it will cause drama if not take for what it is. I did a freshly buried nickel battle with F75 LTD, Deus, Omega, and Etrac and it's totally not equal considering the coils sizes but that's not the point. It does give you and idea of how well machines ID deeper coins though...enjoy!
Good video. Looked like the Etrac was banging that 13 on the CO pretty much every time. Just goes to show why its earned such a great rep as a deep coin hunter.

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Originally Posted by detectingMO View post
As you and Terry have stated and most agree. I've been sitting on this video for 4 months because I know it will cause drama if not take for what it is. I did a freshly buried nickel battle with F75 LTD, Deus, Omega, and Etrac and it's totally not equal considering the coils sizes but that's not the point. It does give you and idea of how well machines ID deeper coins though...enjoy!





I agree, vid is not as accurate on Deus, BUT it is a tone machine. I use vid, BUT tone is the deciding factor in deep digs for me with Deus. My deepest coins didn't even get a vid number, but tone told me to dig.


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Nice video.

Here's an experiment for someone.
Would involve air testing only.
Be sure to use fbs/fbs2 detector in the mix.
Take some coins.
Airtest at say 6" with various detectors document readings.

Then grind the coin thinner just a little, retest by sweeping with all detectors.
Keep grinding down and testing.

What would a person notice?

The fbs detector, yes it will start reading lower ID wise (conductive number), and the other more typical vlfs will too.

But the fbs/ fbs 2 detector(s) will read closer value wise to the original condition coin(s).

If we sweep a nickel with fbs detector say at 5" deep. And it reads a conducive numbe of 12.
This is not the what ideally a nickel reads is it, more like 13.
But if we sweep this same nickel that does infact read 12 conductive, how far off vdi wise will the nickel read using the more typical .(non fbs) detectors?
More than one point likely,right?

So even if the fbs/fbs 2 detectors get it wrong (not ideal) TID wise, they can put the odds in a users favor moreso vs what info more typical Vlf detectors provide.

Remember TID scale of fbs/fbs2 vs Vdi of more typical vlf detectors,,,scale is compressed. So if a person applies this being compressed here, one might think the more spread out Vdi range of more typical vlfs would be more accurate in reporting say a nickel vs junk targets.
Just food for thought here.

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Old 07-21-2017, 12:28 PM
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Great video detecting MO.

I do agree it shows why the E-Trac has the rep it does for finding those deep coppers and silver, but the Deus has a sweet tone.

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Originally Posted by jwp1964 View post
I agree, vid is not as accurate on Deus, BUT it is a tone machine. I use vid, BUT tone is the deciding factor in deep digs for me with Deus. My deepest coins didn't even get a vid number, but tone told me to dig.


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I agree 100%. My E Trac and CTX are great at IDing deep targets BUT as far as raw depth the Deus wins out for me. As you stated JWP it is a tone machine and if you have your tone bins set correctly then that high tone that is repeatable but with no targetID number, chances are you have a deep coin or other non ferrous target.

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Relying on numbers is like driving a car and watching the lines to stay in your lane.

I would say tone rules the roost whether to dig or not.

Both are good machines, but for countless reasons, I chose Deus.
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I think they each have their place. Tone is king in my book too, but sometimes it's nice to have good tones AND a rock solid ID for when you want to cherry pick targets out of spots that have lots of non-ferrous junk.


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