JunkInTheTrunk
Elite Member
All the ACE "haters" out there, I want this to be a serious discussion because I want to learn. I do NOT think it was the ACE's fault as it happened at multiple sites around the sandlot and if you read below you will understand what I was noticing. So PLEASE, the jokes aside on this one... PLEASE!!!
I was at a local totlot using an ACE350 with a S.E.F. 8x6 Butterfly coil with full sens and was getting SOLID, VERY SOLID signals right around the 25cent mark. It would register say at one location right around 8in. Dig WELL past 8 to find nothing there and keep in mind that I used the pinpoint on the ACE. I eventually gave up and moved on. Next 25ft or more away the same thing Solid signal and say the reading would be 6-8in, again a SOLID 25cent mark, say more close to 6 on the meter. Dig WELL past 6 to find nothing there. Eventually I gave up there as well. 10 MAYBE 20ft away from that "hole" (I covered it of course) the EXACT same signal type, this time it was right around 4-6in, but more closer to 4. NOTHING Here is the kicker, I NOTICED that everytime I dug... I went from totlot sand (almost like what you would see at the beach, but more "white" if you will (like sandbox sand that you would buy at a "toy store" or something for the play pens). The dirt was wet... NOT SOAKING, but definitely WET and the sand was more dryer if you will. I take the detector thinking, first really, thinking that I may have missed on the pinpoint because I'm new to using this coil so maybe I was doing something wrong with pinpointing. So anyways, I take the detector and sweep it over the hole and over the mound of sand next to the hole and NOTHING The whole time, I was using my GPP to try to find these elusive coins only to have nothing but an empty hole. I would push in the pinpoint button, put it in the hole and get a SOLID tone and would go into the hole past the plane (i.e. where the sand and dirt meet... so to speak) and as I went PAST the SAND the signal just flat out DIED!!! I would bring it up and the signal comes back. I eventually covered this hole went onto 1x more with the same tone, again 10+ feet away and dig and everytime the sand/dirt met and me putting the detector in the signal would be HIGH and as SOON as it past the plane the signal died. Is it POSSIBLE that the two soils could have caused a HALO effect at certain POINTS Keep in mind that these are 2x dissimilar minerals if you will. If you join 2x dissimilar metals, they will react to one another and one would be eaten at by the other and or vice versa. So like a total of 5x holes, with 2x of them doing this "test" when I noticed what was going on. I was REALLY intrigued by what was going on. BTW, I would adj the sens down a little, thinking that something wasn't working well between the aftermarket coil and the ACE350 and got the same affect I'm REALLY begining to believe in the HALO affect and think that the people that don't... well, believe in what you want to believe in. YEAH, the earth is STILL flat, and the sun revolves around the earth... get out of the F'N caves and start thinking for yourselves for once instead of just taking in what others say. I believe in the "scientific" method to a point. OBVIOUSLY, if you do something a certain way and repeat the process... HEY, I get the same thing by repeating this process!!! Well NO SHI_ SHERLOCK!!! The question is then, what happens if I "alter" a certain step... THEN what do I get OF COURSE, think about the possible outcome of the process or hypothesize what you might get or think you might get. Anyways, sorry if it is a long post, but I hope I explained it good enough to get some sort of feedback on what was causing my good to dying signal as I'm going from sand to dirt HH \_
the pic is crude, but hope it shows/explains what was going on... and keep in mind that there is a hole and putting the coil past the "planar surface" and/or into the dirt, the signal died and this was at at least 2x separate spots when I started to TEST what was going on. ALSO, at various depths... but ALWAYS noticed that it was past the planar surface!!! I don't know I found it pretty damn interesting... HH \_ people
Just thought I would share, what I experienced today!!! Someone MAY learn from this OR I MAY learn from someone... that's the point to this!!!
I was at a local totlot using an ACE350 with a S.E.F. 8x6 Butterfly coil with full sens and was getting SOLID, VERY SOLID signals right around the 25cent mark. It would register say at one location right around 8in. Dig WELL past 8 to find nothing there and keep in mind that I used the pinpoint on the ACE. I eventually gave up and moved on. Next 25ft or more away the same thing Solid signal and say the reading would be 6-8in, again a SOLID 25cent mark, say more close to 6 on the meter. Dig WELL past 6 to find nothing there. Eventually I gave up there as well. 10 MAYBE 20ft away from that "hole" (I covered it of course) the EXACT same signal type, this time it was right around 4-6in, but more closer to 4. NOTHING Here is the kicker, I NOTICED that everytime I dug... I went from totlot sand (almost like what you would see at the beach, but more "white" if you will (like sandbox sand that you would buy at a "toy store" or something for the play pens). The dirt was wet... NOT SOAKING, but definitely WET and the sand was more dryer if you will. I take the detector thinking, first really, thinking that I may have missed on the pinpoint because I'm new to using this coil so maybe I was doing something wrong with pinpointing. So anyways, I take the detector and sweep it over the hole and over the mound of sand next to the hole and NOTHING The whole time, I was using my GPP to try to find these elusive coins only to have nothing but an empty hole. I would push in the pinpoint button, put it in the hole and get a SOLID tone and would go into the hole past the plane (i.e. where the sand and dirt meet... so to speak) and as I went PAST the SAND the signal just flat out DIED!!! I would bring it up and the signal comes back. I eventually covered this hole went onto 1x more with the same tone, again 10+ feet away and dig and everytime the sand/dirt met and me putting the detector in the signal would be HIGH and as SOON as it past the plane the signal died. Is it POSSIBLE that the two soils could have caused a HALO effect at certain POINTS Keep in mind that these are 2x dissimilar minerals if you will. If you join 2x dissimilar metals, they will react to one another and one would be eaten at by the other and or vice versa. So like a total of 5x holes, with 2x of them doing this "test" when I noticed what was going on. I was REALLY intrigued by what was going on. BTW, I would adj the sens down a little, thinking that something wasn't working well between the aftermarket coil and the ACE350 and got the same affect I'm REALLY begining to believe in the HALO affect and think that the people that don't... well, believe in what you want to believe in. YEAH, the earth is STILL flat, and the sun revolves around the earth... get out of the F'N caves and start thinking for yourselves for once instead of just taking in what others say. I believe in the "scientific" method to a point. OBVIOUSLY, if you do something a certain way and repeat the process... HEY, I get the same thing by repeating this process!!! Well NO SHI_ SHERLOCK!!! The question is then, what happens if I "alter" a certain step... THEN what do I get OF COURSE, think about the possible outcome of the process or hypothesize what you might get or think you might get. Anyways, sorry if it is a long post, but I hope I explained it good enough to get some sort of feedback on what was causing my good to dying signal as I'm going from sand to dirt HH \_
the pic is crude, but hope it shows/explains what was going on... and keep in mind that there is a hole and putting the coil past the "planar surface" and/or into the dirt, the signal died and this was at at least 2x separate spots when I started to TEST what was going on. ALSO, at various depths... but ALWAYS noticed that it was past the planar surface!!! I don't know I found it pretty damn interesting... HH \_ people
Just thought I would share, what I experienced today!!! Someone MAY learn from this OR I MAY learn from someone... that's the point to this!!!