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Simplex nickel ID number and notches

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I see you can use notches to create a park pattern where you want to block out most junk and try to get coins. It seems that nickels hit at around 26 on the TID scale. So to create a notch to catch most nickels that may bounce a bit you would have to accept 21-25 and also 26-30 as the ID is right on the verge of two segments. Ten TID numbers. I kind of wish they would have programmed nickels to hit at around 28 that way I could only have to accept the 26-30 notch and still have a little play for ID\'s that may bounce a bit. Oh well they didn't ask me my opinion.......:D
 
Yup, nickles fall right on the break so you have to leave the entire 20's range un-notched for nickles.

I also air tested some Indian heads pennies and they come in between 59-62 depending on how corroded they are so you will need to leave 56-60 & 61-65 un-notched if you want to find those as well....if your hunting an old park.
 
Don’t ignore the 35% SILVER War nickels. If you have one, do a bench test and ground test to see where they fall on your VDI scale. As an example, a regular U.S. nickel registers between 19 and 21 on my Whites XLT, but a War nickel comes in higher on the scale, in the low 40’s.

Jim
 
here is my simplex numbers chart

it is an air test, little different in ground signals probably and changes some with depth.


iron objects 0-15
beaver tail only 19-20
shotgun stamp 21-21
mod nickel 25-25
buffalo nickel 25-26
modern nickel 25-26
jefferson nickel 26-27
full pull tab beaver 29-30
beaver ring only 33-34
square tab 50-51
cw bullet small 59-63
cw bullet small 61-64
cw bullet large 65-66
1994 67-67
IH penny 67-68
shield penny mod 67-68
IH penny 71-72
rusty bottle cap 71-75
bottle cap 71-75
barber dime 72-73
brass round item 77-78
mod dime 77-78
modern dime 77-78
penny 1980 78-78
wheat penny 79-79
merc dime 80-81
rosie dime 87-88
modern quarter 91-91
stand lib qtr sliver 92-92
kennedy 71 .50 95-95
Stand lib qtr sliver .50 95-95
stand lib qtr sliver 95-96
kennedy 64 96-96
morgan dollar 96-96
morgan dollar 96-96
kennedy .50 1964 96-96

Note: today hunted in park and with tons of bottle caps are in the 70's.
switch to beach, scan center of target, wiggle back and forth a little to keep signal and bring coil back toward your feet. as you approach the toe or tip of the coil, you will see a quick iron digit or two and hear an iron grunt. must have iron volume loud enough.

test this out today in a real trashy park on about 5 dug bottle caps and easy to ID about 20 more.

ps: like the 99 digit range compared to the 40 digit range of the nox 800 and Vanquish.
 
maxxkatt said:
it is air test, little different in ground signals


iron objects 0-15
beaver tail only 19-20
shotgun stamp 21-21
mod nickel 25-25
buffalo nickel 25-26
modern nickel 25-26
jefferson nickel 26-27
full pull tab beaver 29-30
beaver ring only 33-34
square tab 50-51
cw bullet small 59-63
cw bullet small 61-64
cw bullet large 65-66
1994 67-67
IH penny 67-68
shield penny mod 67-68
IH penny 71-72
rusty bottle cap 71-75
bottle cap 71-75
barber dime 72-73
brass round item 77-78
mod dime 77-78
modern dime 77-78
penny 1980 78-78
wheat penny 79-79
merc dime 80-81
rosie dime 87-88
modern quarter 91-91
stand lib qtr sliver 92-92
kennedy 71 .50 95-95
Stand lib qtr sliver .50 95-95
stand lib qtr sliver 95-96
kennedy 64 96-96
morgan dollar 96-96
morgan dollar 96-96
kennedy .50 1964 96-96
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Barber Dime 72-73
Merc Dime 80-81
Rosie Dime 87-88

?????

What gives? Aren't they the same composition?
 
Stiffwrists said:
Barber Dime 72-73
Merc Dime 80-81
Rosie Dime 87-88

?????

What gives? Aren't they the same composition?
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not sure will re-test those three. barber was kind of thin.

ok, here is the re-test in Field mode and beach mode results identical in both modes.

Barber 72, merc 80, rosie 86. This test was pure air test, the previous test was on a clear patch of ground and simplex ground balanced.

maybe others can test their three coins.

here is compositon per RS Yoeman.

barb 2.5 grams, .900 silver, .100 copper, diameter 17.9 mm
merc 2.5 grams, .900 silver, .100 copper, diameter 17.9 mm
rosie 2.5 grams, .900 silver, .100 copper, diameter 17.9 mm

so you are right on the composition. I will try some different dimes later.
I will also try these three with same air test on the 800.

update: testedd with Nox 800

barb 22
merc 26
rosie 27

hmmm, not sure why the differences on both machines.
 
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I noticed on another site about dimes and was also confused about the difference unless it was thickness. some old mercs and barbers are mighty thin. still confusing.

basically except the war nickel anything above 70 dig it.
 
jimther said:
Don’t ignore the 35% SILVER War nickels. If you have one, do a bench test and ground test to see where they fall on your VDI scale. As an example, a regular U.S. nickel registers between 19 and 21 on my Whites XLT, but a War nickel comes in higher on the scale, in the low 40’s.

Jim
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I'm surprised at the numbers you have regarding the different nickels on your White's MXT. When I had my White's Eagle II, regular nickels rang up at 20, on the M6 they rang up at 18 and the War Nickels rang up in the same range on both detectors. Ditto for my Garrett AT Pro and Max. Regular nickels ring in 51-52 and so do the Wartime nickels. These numbers were in ground rather than a bench test so maybe that explains some of the difference?
 
Coins I have at home On my Simplex running Ver 2.78
Zinc Penny 66-67
Copper Penny 77-78
Wheat Penny 75-76
Indian Head 63-65 69
Large Cent 93
Jefferson Nickel 30-31
Buffalo Nickel 29-30
V Nickel 29
War Nickel 31
Modern Dime 76-77
Silver Rosie 81-82
Silver Merc 81
Seated Dime 70 (thin)
Barber Dime 79
Clad Quarter 90
Silver Washington 91
SLQ 87
Seated Quarter 87-88
Kennedy Half 95
Kennedy 40% 94
Kennedy silver 95
Franklin Half 95
Walker Half 95
Clad Dollar 96
Morgan Dollar 96
Peace Dollar 96
Silver 5 Pesos 96
Men's Wedding Ring 25
Womens Wedding Ring 21-22
Small thin gold ring 20

All silver rings that i have read in the high coin range but I have so many, I didn't test them.

These results are from recent air test and may differ on your machine or in the ground.
 
Stiffwrists said:
Barber Dime 72-73
Merc Dime 80-81
Rosie Dime 87-88

?????

What gives? Aren't they the same composition?
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I was just about to post this same statement. I don't use the detector mentioned, but how can that be right? :?:


EDIT: I just realized that this WAS my own older post.
Hahaha.
 
diggin4clad said:
I'm surprised at the numbers you have regarding the different nickels on your White's MXT. When I had my White's Eagle II, regular nickels rang up at 20, on the M6 they rang up at 18 and the War Nickels rang up in the same range on both detectors. Ditto for my Garrett AT Pro and Max. Regular nickels ring in 51-52 and so do the Wartime nickels. These numbers were in ground rather than a bench test so maybe that explains some of the difference?
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War nickels have always rang about the same as normal nickels for me too. The older Vs and Buffalos sometimes ring in just a little lower, but I'm always surprised by the War nickels when they show up.
 
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