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Old 10-21-2019, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoryHippy View post
I just realized I encountered Hamilton OH's version of Leslie Nope!

(Parks and Recreation)
LOL, I was thinking that too!

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Old 10-21-2019, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mud-puppy View post
I saw a tee shirt the other day a deer hunter guy was wearing..said in big letters on the front:

"Official Public Land Owner" I thought that caption would make for a nice detecting shirt...somebody here might be good at designing something like this for us? Simple and to the point and functional...

Pocket tee of course, 100% cotton, long tail obviously like Duluth Trading sells...? Maybe have the caption on the back and a little official looking emblem on the front with a coin or something? "Urban Metal Reclamation Specialist"
Here you go: https://www.backcountryhunters.org/p...owner_t_shirts

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:15 PM
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As a newbie who didn't know any better, I asked for permission in my local Ohio town of 18,000 and got written (via e-mail) permission from our parks and rec superintendent himself. Definitely holding onto that e-mail!

Edit: Of course I realize if I piss off a parks worker, abuse the privilege, etc., that he could revoke permission or encourage city council to pass a rule banning it so I will still tread carefully. Currently our city has nothing on the books permitting or banning it here, but generally the parks and rec people are favorable towards it.
Hordfest, welcome to FMDAC. Some observations on your post:

1) It is not unusual for someone to receive a "yes", and understandably to conclude : "Therefore : It was a good thing I asked" , eh ?

2) Conversely if they'd received a "no", you might LIKEWISE have said to yourself : "Therefore It was a good thing I asked. Because now I know I that I can't go" (ie.: won't get in trouble or whatever).

3) Thus, so as you can see, whether a person gets a "yes" or a "no", they can equally conclude : "See, it's a good thing I asked". Eh ?

But this conclusion doesn't logically follow, IMHO. Because ....

4) What other answer did you think they could have given besides yes or no ? The only other option I could think of is something like this : "Gee that's a funny question. Why are you asking me ? You don't need my say-so for something that's not specifically disallowed".

But as you can probably surmise, public authorities never answer in the fashion of #4. And here's why : Because the mere fact that someone is standing in front of them asking "can I do such & such" implies that their say-so (or commentary of what they think applies) is needed, in the first place. If their input doesn't carry merit, then ... naturally .... the person wouldn't be asking. The mere question puts-that-authority in their hands, by implication. Hence they will grant to you their princely "yes" or "no". But never do they answer in fashion of #4.

5) I guarantee you that someone else can go in the very next day, ask a different park worker, and get a completely different answer from the same department. I've seen this happen. Or ...

6) What if you'd gotten a "no", but then later bumped into people who detect in the park in your Ohio town, and never had a problem ? I've seen this happen too. And the newbie is left scratching his head wondering what's up with that.

7) Stop and think about the implications of their "yes". That would simply mean that there isn't anything that there is no rules against it . Thus that being the case: Then you basically already 'had permission', once you had looked up rules for yourself, and found nothing saying "no md'ing".

8) And , I might add, you got lucky that someone didn't envision geeks with shovels . And as for the permission you will carry with you: I have read of cases where the md'r proudly whips out his name-to-drop, or his permission paper to show. And the griper merely gets on his cell-phone , calls to city hall and says "but he's tearing the place up" (which isn't true, of course). Then guess what happens to your permission ?

In any event, you got lucky on the Russian Roulette game this time.

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Old 10-21-2019, 08:14 PM
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I didn't ask anyone!
I read the rules and regulations!
They do have festivals and concerts where I was with tents and canopies. I was in front of the ampitheater on my second pass working my way up the hill to where they sell food and beer during these festivities. I had 85 cents and abt 10 of those stupid aluminum beer bottle tops.
That's when she started with the screaming at me like I was committing a horrible triple homicide!
I told her "You can't even tell where I had been."
She's screaming "I DON'T CARE."
I think she needs her dosage checked.
Maybe try CBD.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:00 PM
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....I think she needs her dosage checked.....
I think she had a crush on you. Was she cute ?
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:16 PM
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NO.
She was freaking mean! Mean people suck!
I felt safer when I went to the office while her and the pit bull were contained behind glass!
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Old 10-22-2019, 01:13 AM
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Glad it all worked out..

Have you noticed 95% of the one's that seem to have the issue with metal detecting..Women. I've had many encounters, of them calling the police, your trespassing, your wrong I'm right type of women. There have been men but seems they can adjust to the fact quicker that maybe I'm right. Not one has yet to call the police.

But why the women?

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Old 10-22-2019, 01:34 AM
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Glad it all worked out..

Have you noticed 95% of the one's that seem to have the issue with metal detecting..Women. I've had many encounters, of them calling the police, your trespassing, your wrong I'm right type of women. There have been men but seems they can adjust to the fact quicker that maybe I'm right. Not one has yet to call the police.

But why the women?
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Old 10-22-2019, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mud-puppy View post
You shoulda just started babbling in some foreign sounding words like you are from France or something...looking all confused as a visiting foreigner would...."Tutu de swie, Tutu de swa? Volle le futbalparken? Non Sprechen zee! Non Sprechen zee! It doesnt matter what you say, theres no defending yourself with logic, reason, laws or anything...so, just start babbling stupid sounding chit....or keep silent like a mute...same results...

When confronted by a crazy angry Woman who wants to start a fight, I just start babbling incoherently, drooling, looking all sleepy eyed and stupid, letting my tongue hang halfway over my lower lip, like its too big to fit in my mouth, if She persists with the harangue, I wet my pants in a defensive manouever like a toad or a skunk does!....(Wimmen cant stand the sight or smell of Man urine, not on the toilet seat, underwear, or outside on the pacysandras).

Their anger quickly turns to disgust, and they cant stand to be in my presence, so they generally walk away looking for an easier target of opportunity like the dog......(This has been my secret to a long and happy marriage to Mrs Mud)....

Wimmen dont find any pleasure in cussing out a guy if they think you cant understand a thing they are saying! They already think you are dumb, so dont disappoint them, concede that as the genetically lost ground battle of the mid 70's and then play it up! Never argue even if you are right!

Just go twice as stupid as they think you are! 'Full Retart' if you will...This tactic Diffuses the situation! Its like estrogenic pepper spray!

Yeah, she obviously owned that big old dog so she had something to boss around when there wasnt a guy to pick on! Makes her feel powerful and in control....Probably makes him do all sorts of tricks before she gives him a treat! Like beg and sit and roll over and things...probably scolds him too, just to see him look guilty and ashamed about something....Pretty much like any married Woman does with us!

Just look as dopey and stupid as possible around any Woman over 50..babble about stuff, piss your pants occasionally, wear khakis to enhance the visual effect.... avoid them if you can, be ready if you cant..always carry a fart in your back pocket, a half full bladder, a booger, or a burp...this is all we have left to defend ourselves since we just cant simply 'punch them to the Moon' like we could when Man ruled this Planet in the 50's....They just aint afraid of us anymore...
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by HistoryHippy View post
I didn't ask anyone!
I read the rules and regulations!
They do have festivals and concerts where I was with tents and canopies. I was in front of the ampitheater on my second pass working my way up the hill to where they sell food and beer during these festivities. I had 85 cents and abt 10 of those stupid aluminum beer bottle tops.
That's when she started with the screaming at me like I was committing a horrible triple homicide!
I told her "You can't even tell where I had been."
She's screaming "I DON'T CARE."
I think she needs her dosage checked.
Maybe try CBD.
Oh wow.... You hit the Ampitheater, you must be a glutton for punishment. I hit that one morning after a concert last year. Couldn't even swing the coil there was so many beer cans laying around the place. If I had some empty garbage bags I could of loaded up on aluminum and scrapped it for far more than I could of pulled from the ground. That place is loaded in trash.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:40 AM
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.... But why the women?
You are cruising for a bruising. You seem to imply there's some innate differences between the sexes, aside-from-the-plumbing. Gloria Steinem would not be proud of you. Repent.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:57 AM
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Men do things for stuff and reason.
Women do things on emotion and care taking.
Just the way we were designed.
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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View post
You are cruising for a bruising. You seem to imply there's some innate differences between the sexes, aside-from-the-plumbing. Gloria Steinem would not be proud of you. Repent.

...........Funny..She looks like the New Park Ranger that is trying to nail me for trespassing. One of my good spots the last few month's I've had to walk the shoreline to get where I wanted to hunt in the water. Since metal detectors are not allowed in the park. Last week one day she followed me along the shore, the full 2500 feet, in her ATV (from a distances). Making sure I did not step above the Mean High tide line. And this is the second time she has done that in the last few weeks.

And in the defense of women, I have meet many that were very nice and had no issues with where I'm detecting.

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Old 10-22-2019, 12:19 PM
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Thats right TMan I hit it because this time of year theres not concerts. The ground is loaded with stuff! I turn the sensitivity way down and run in coin mode there and still dig cans and aluminum bottle tops.
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... followed me along the shore, the full 2500 feet, in her ATV (from a distances). Making sure I did not step above the Mean High tide line. And this is the second time she has done that in the last few weeks....
This post reminds me of why I do nice manicured turf (or places like your current description) in the dark-of-night. So peaceful. So serene . I could spend my entire life trying to get some lone individual (1 out of 100,000 who even "care") to change their mind, or .... I can just avoid that singular individual. To me, it's just easier to avoid the random rare individual.

Some people might call that "sneaking around". Ok, fine then: Sneak around.

Example: I once had a lady on the beach that griped that my detector was bothering her dog. I think she thought it emitted some sort of sound or frequency that only dogs could hear ? Ok, was it my duty to "convince her otherwise" or "disprove her" ? Or was it easier to give lip service, nod politely and move down the beach for awhile, till she left ?
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I think she had a crush on you. Was she cute ?

Could be. Was she asking how deep his detecting stick goes? And how sensitive it was? What he can do with his probe?

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I think she wanted to beat me over the head with my own detector, feed me to the pit bull then use the probe in the privacy of her own home.
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Screaming woman mentions police. My comment, "Go ahead, I'll be right over there," put my headphones back on and continue on my business.

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Hahaha. Iím going to put into practice this wonderful advice in many of my female interactions, and not just the ones involving metal detecting. Iím practicing facial dribbling in front of the mirror now!


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After this post I am now much more on Tom's side of the fence. Outrageous cack that spews out of the mouths of the perpetually offended DOES drive me up a figurative wall. Frank Daignault wrote a book entitled, "Striper Surf." In it he describes similar cackdom INFLICTED on guys just wanting to (horrors!) fish. He had some sage advice which I offer now: ...practice your legal rights when no one is looking. While I will still generally ask nicely to most folk, if I perceive they are one of the P/O(perpetually offended), I too will become "the grey man." Puppy, you ALL funny, yo!

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