Not small enough to take dirt off first. I would comfortably say a 20 ft diameter circle. Not to much for scanning. Way too much for digging.
2 foot depth gold broach target
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Not small enough to take dirt off first. I would comfortably say a 20 ft diameter circle. Not to much for scanning. Way too much for digging.
GPR is something that I saw during my research but I don’t know much about it. Is that the same as a 3D scanner/detector?
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That's a pretty small area. Is it sandy soil, like Florida or clay like Georgia or mineralized ground like Virginia/Pennsylvania? A good nugget machine may get a blip.
The old Nautilus metal detectors with tuned coils were pretty good.
I know you want to find it yourself but a detecting club in your area could hold a contest there with a lot of different machines. It would make a good story.
The old Nautilus metal detectors with tuned coils were pretty good.
I know you want to find it yourself but a detecting club in your area could hold a contest there with a lot of different machines. It would make a good story.
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GeoW
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Wouldn't bet the ranch on it. Could be masked by foil, steel wool or rusty nail.
GeoW
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20' not that big with a blade. Used to use 4 wheeler with blade to remove one layer at the time.
achaios
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Is two feet down going to be affected by frost heave?
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FLOOD
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I was thinking the same thing. If you know the general area, grab a shovel and take a few scoops off the top, to reduce the surface depth. You could even do that in random locations around the target box area, and improve your chances.
Yes Potentially.
Is the the "source" you are using to find this "treasure"?
https://www.readandseek.com/2017/12/the-golden-apple-tale.html
It is. This is a good primer to the hunt. Its been over 40 years since it was buried. Rumors aside from it being retrieved by the author - The location I believe its in has not changed in that time-frame.
There is a link to the actual publication of the book used to find the treasure - No one has cracked the code to come up with a complete solve that we know of.
The author has passed away taking the solution with him.
Jeff Kinzli
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A GPR might be the way to find this, because one of the things GPRs are good tools for are finding where soil has been disturbed, i.e. a pit dug and filled back in again. So maybe you don't actually locate the gold, per se, but you locate the place where its buried, so you narrow it down to a 2 foot diameter pit rather than a 20 foot diameter pit, which you then use your detector in to find the actual article.
Seems doable to me, especially since I'm not doing it
Seems doable to me, especially since I'm not doing it
A GPR might be the way to find this, because one of the things GPRs are good tools for are finding where soil has been disturbed, i.e. a pit dug and filled back in again. So maybe you don't actually locate the gold, per se, but you locate the place where its buried, so you narrow it down to a 2 foot diameter pit rather than a 20 foot diameter pit, which you then use your detector in to find the actual article.
Seems doable to me, especially since I'm not doing it
In my very limited knowledge of all of this, it seems like GPR is the direction to go. We know the exact depth +/- a few inches...
I asked a question before that did not get answered.:
GPR is something that I saw during my research but I don’t know much about it. Is that the same as a 3D scanner/detector?
Also since we are pointed at the GPR route - What recommendations would you all have for that?
Jeff Kinzli
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GPR operates differently than metal detectors.
Metal detectors work by sending a pulse of energy into the ground and "listening" for the resultant signal coming back from the eddy current induced in the metal.
GPR works a bit differently - GPR sends pulses into the ground and looks for reflections back, and how long they take to get back. If you know how GPS works, then GPR is not all that much different (very basic generalization). So its not dependent on metal, just variations in soil density will cause anomalies in the return pulses. This is why GPR would be key for your search. GPR is often used to find things like hidden grave sites because of the disturbed soil. Of course bodies, wooden boxes, etc. are all of different density than the surrounding soil so they would show up on a GPR analysis too.
Most GPR units do present something like a 3D visualization - its not really 3D, but its presented sort of that way. Essentially you're collecting "slices" of the ground underneath and adding them all up to create that picture, sort of like a CT scan or MRI does for your body.
My guess is that you could consult with one of your local geologist consultants and perhaps rent a GPR from them to use. GPR devices are relatively expensive ($5k-$50K) so you might have a hard time convincing them to rent you the device. Hoping you live in a small town where personal integrity has some value here that might help in that endeavor.
The other side of that though is that if you haven't used a GPR before you might have a hard time being successful with it. In this case just hiring a consultant might be a better option, one that has good experience with GPR.
I hope that helps. Ask more if it doesn't. Best of luck!
GPR units are very expensive and most appear to look like a lawnmower. A rental might be an option.
Are the 3D detectors (that look somewhat like metal detectors) the same as a GPR unit as well? Is it the same technology? Those are less expensive.
Just be careful of scammers out there!
Yes! Like that gold locator that looks like a space gun with sand inside. It does find the money in your pocket. Still though if someone finds a small gold chain with a complex gold medallion with lots of gaps two feet deep with a metal detector let me know and i will buy two of them.
Jeff Kinzli
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GPR units typically are towed or pushed across the ground.
I'm not sure what 3D detectors you're speaking of. I've seen Nokta's unit that sounds similar to what you're suggesting - I don't think that's GPR-based but I don't know much about it.
As others have said, be very careful of scammers. That's why I suggested a geologist, they should be licensed and have professional certifications. You might also check with pipe locator services, some of them may have GPR units.
