007tallguy
Elite Member
i've come to the conclusion that asking for permission over the phone is nothing but a waste of time. my success rate by phone is basically ZERO percent.
the last place i was trying for is a business setting (ski hill). i drive by it every evening for work purposes and i stopped in the other evening with the hopes that the owner would still be there. of course, the owner was gone for the day, so... i tried by phone, told her who i was, where i work, and about my hobby, etc etc. and if there was a possibility of getting permission to detect there after the season ended. but i got a "no" from her. she mentioned "liability" at which i said i would be willing to sign a waiver.
apparently, if i tie a waxed board to each foot and fly down that hill at a hundred mph with a pointed stick in each hand their liability form will suffice, but to walk around at a snails' pace with a detector is much more dangerous.
and if she said "yes" to me, then she'd have to say yes to everyone else who asks. (oh really? )
i guess i could have made the hour long drive on the weekend in the hopes that one of the owners would have been in and asked in person, but i believe in this case, the answer would have still been the same. (that's just the way some people are)
in short, whenever possible, ask for permissionin person! not by phone and not by email. take the time and go see the person face to face! i don't think it would have made any difference for my in this instance, but there have been other places i've gone where i do believe the face to face thing was a definite asset to me.
-phone and email, very close to zero percent.
-in person: +95 percent success rate!
the last place i was trying for is a business setting (ski hill). i drive by it every evening for work purposes and i stopped in the other evening with the hopes that the owner would still be there. of course, the owner was gone for the day, so... i tried by phone, told her who i was, where i work, and about my hobby, etc etc. and if there was a possibility of getting permission to detect there after the season ended. but i got a "no" from her. she mentioned "liability" at which i said i would be willing to sign a waiver.
apparently, if i tie a waxed board to each foot and fly down that hill at a hundred mph with a pointed stick in each hand their liability form will suffice, but to walk around at a snails' pace with a detector is much more dangerous.
and if she said "yes" to me, then she'd have to say yes to everyone else who asks. (oh really? )
i guess i could have made the hour long drive on the weekend in the hopes that one of the owners would have been in and asked in person, but i believe in this case, the answer would have still been the same. (that's just the way some people are)
in short, whenever possible, ask for permissionin person! not by phone and not by email. take the time and go see the person face to face! i don't think it would have made any difference for my in this instance, but there have been other places i've gone where i do believe the face to face thing was a definite asset to me.
-phone and email, very close to zero percent.
-in person: +95 percent success rate!