AT Pro Double D coil "sweet spot"?

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I imagine I need to figure this out for myself - maybe it's different for each coil but I notice that the deeper the coin the more I miss it when I dig. Shallow? I can probe it right away. Six inches or more and I often miss it. Where is the sweet spot on a DD coil in your experience?

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Wiggle method

I had the same issue when i started. Now i dont even use pin point button. I locate my target , then wiggle the coil backwards to the toe of the coil, when the signal disappears its right in front of coil. Lots of videos on youtube .hope this helps.
 
I had the same issue when i started. Now i dont even use pin point button. I locate my target , then wiggle the coil backwards to the toe of the coil, when the signal disappears its right in front of coil. Lots of videos on youtube .hope this helps.


Same, wiggle it around then dig. The manual for it does show where on the coil the pin point feature sweet spot is. Should be the first square in front of the mount.
 
I imagine I need to figure this out for myself - maybe it's different for each coil but I notice that the deeper the coin the more I miss it when I dig. Shallow? I can probe it right away. Six inches or more and I often miss it. Where is the sweet spot on a DD coil in your experience?

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If a coin is not flat then the pinpointing will be off based on the angle of the coin and the depth. Think of the face of the coin like a spotlight (Bat signal!). If the coin is at a 45 degree angle and only 1 inch deep then it won't make any noticeable difference. If it's 8 inches deep then it will pinpoint off by a few inches.

But, to answer your question about sweet spot, remember that you're using a DD coil and not a concentric coil. The detection field of a standard sized DD coil is like a butcher clever with an inch thick blade running from the back to the front. Or, an inch thick rectangular pane of glass. It has maximum depth almost all the way from the back to the front. Very little depth at the sides of the coil.

That pane of glass or blade has a middle, and it's just forward of where the shaft meets the coil, but there's not much use in thinking of it as a "sweet spot". Not in the same way a concentric coil has a depth/sensitivity sweet spot in the center bottom of the detection field shaped like an upside down cone.

Pinpointing with a DD coil is all about using that "blade" (or pane of glass if you prefer) to find the edges of the target and then centering the retrieval on that shape.

With an AT Pro coil a typical unmasked coin target should appear and disappear at the tips of the triangle shaped holes at the front and back of the coil. That's where the detection field "blade" starts and ends, and at near maximum depth. (You can think of the bottom edge of the blade as being a bit curved or rounded off at the front and back edges.)

In clean ground, if you can hear the target in one part of the detection field you should be able to hear it all the way from front to back. If you can't, then it's nearby discriminated out metal masking it and not a lack of depth or loss of sensitivity away from the middle.

To determine where to dig I focus on a spot on the ground where I think the target is located. Then, as I waggle/swing and pull back or push forward I don't follow the coil with my eyes. I focus on my spot and see if the blade passing through it and the audio sync up. If it doesn't, I adjust the point on the ground based on what I saw and waggle/swing again. When the blade passes through the spot and audio all match up, then I've got my spot. I only do a 90 degree check if I'm trying to determine the separation between two or more nearby signals.

Visualizing the shape of the detection field is the key to getting the most out of the DD design, such as teasing out partially masked targets. You can find partially masked deep targets using just the toe of the coil--the front of the blade--or even the heel.
 
I imagine I need to figure this out for myself - maybe it's different for each coil but I notice that the deeper the coin the more I miss it when I dig. Shallow? I can probe it right away. Six inches or more and I often miss it. Where is the sweet spot on a DD coil in your experience?

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Depends, totally, on the sensitivity setting. The lower the sensitivity, the easier it is to miss a 6" coin. Of course, shallow targets light up the signal better, but I've had plenty of 14" targets with my 14.5" coil with medium high sensitivity.

Skippy
 
Depends, totally, on the sensitivity setting. The lower the sensitivity, the easier it is to miss a 6" coin. Of course, shallow targets light up the signal better, but I've had plenty of 14" targets with my 14.5" coil with medium high sensitivity.

Skippy

What type of target at 14” Skippy?
 
What type of target at 14” Skippy?

the only 14" objects I've pulled are at the beach, because in my local parks and schools, I'm not allowed to dig beyond 8" (pipe damage can occur).

At the beach, 14" isn't a problem for coins, and an occasional token, I've pulled a couple of rings at 12", with great signals, but haven't encountered any others deeper.

The thing about coils is that "max depth" is usually close to the diameter of the coil.

What this means though, is that you have to overlap your swings more at the beach, to get good 'at depth' coverage, due to the fact the signal field curves (meaning the sweet spot at 14" is going to be under the coil).

Basically, when I do the wiggle method on DEEP items, I always have to dig closer to me, towards the center of the coil, not at the top of the coil.

Usually, the deeper coins and objects are a bit larger, too. I think the deepest dime sized object I've pulled is about 11"-12" and it's faint on the initial ping.
 
For shallow coins the wiggle method works well. For the deeper targets I use the usual method of using the dead center of the coil. While holding the pinpoint button down, SLOWLY run the coil over the target listening for the loudest sound and that's where the target will be. Also on the AT Pro you can get an even better idea as to where the target is centered if you're in PRO mode.
 
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