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I always thought that the gov do not call list was only for landlines or home phones.

but it will now take cell phone numbers. Maybe I am the only one who didn't know this.

https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx

so if you are getting spam calls on your cell phone, this may or may not help. time will tell.

john
 
I for one love spam calls on my phone.. I'm retired, lots of time on my hands and LOVE to waste other people's time when they think I might need what they're selling.. but do not. It's a bit of a game to see how long I can keep them on the phone, keeping them from making the next opt call.. Waste MY time? never, too much phone. Being from the east coast of Canada, there is nothing funnier than trying to make a foreigner with an accent try to understand our strong accents out here ;) there is a lot of "what?" coming from the other side.. yes byes, wot?

I usually just use block caller when they get annoying.. never hear from them again.. pity.. ;)
 
Seaking406 said:
I for one love spam calls on my phone.. I'm retired, lots of time on my hands and LOVE to waste other people's time when they think I might need what they're selling.. but do not. It's a bit of a game to see how long I can keep them on the phone, keeping them from making the next opt call.. Waste MY time? never, too much phone. Being from the east coast of Canada, there is nothing funnier than trying to make a foreigner with an accent try to understand our strong accents out here ;) there is a lot of "what?" coming from the other side.. yes byes, wot?

I usually just use block caller when they get annoying.. never hear from them again.. pity.. ;)
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When my son was 13-14 (before girls and drivers license) he used to amuse himself at the expense of these sales calls. I would listen sometimes and he was good. they thought he was an adult. But I think it had a long term effect, he now has a sales career.
 
I've played with them from time to time. I've even had them call back to swear at me. One time in particular, when they called back, to swear at me, I told the guy that that his behavior scamming people was so poor that Shiva was going to spank him with all 4 arms.
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That was probably a little far, even though my son was dying in laughter. :( (I'm pretty sure that was not a proud parenting moment.) It just bothered me that such an obvious scam HAD to be understood by the people at the other end that they were causing misery for the people that bought into it. I let them know that... hence the call back, and my snarky retort.

Those people in those countries have precious little, and me berating them doesn't actually make the world a better place.

Since that event, though, I've discovered I have NO problem keeping them on the phone "doing their job" while politely leading them in circles. LOL I figure it keeps some sucker from being called and scammed. THAT is doing the world a favor. :)


Skippy
 
Sometimes when I'm really bored and with a long drive ahead of me, I'll mess with em too...

"Shiva was going to spank him with all 4 arms. " :laughing:

Great thread already..

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I get lots of calls, but I seldom get someone I could talk to. They are almost all robo calls. As far as the do not call list, no one is not calling because someone is on a list. There is no enforcement arm for the no call list.


Also, most of them are coming from outside the U.S. One last thing, at least with the robo calls, if you answer them, they will capture your number and use it to disguise their call and your number will come up on their next call. I had a long talk with someone at the state attorney's office about it. This is what he told me.

Another last thing, if they can engage you in conversation they will record it and then take individual words and phrases to digitally construct permissions to do all kinds of things. The guy I talked to at the state attorney's office cautioned me not to talk to them. If they ask if they are talking to, then use your name, never say "yes." Ask them why they are asking if you think it might be a legitimate call.
 
Rollie said:
I get lots of calls, but I seldom get someone I could talk to. They are almost all robo calls. As far as the do not call list, no one is not calling because someone is on a list. There is no enforcement arm for the no call list.


Also, most of them are coming from outside the U.S. One last thing, at least with the robo calls, if you answer them, they will capture your number and use it to disguise their call and your number will come up on their next call. I had a long talk with someone at the state attorney's office about it. This is what he told me.

Another last thing, if they can engage you in conversation they will record it and then take individual words and phrases to digitally construct permissions to do all kinds of things. The guy I talked to at the state attorney's office cautioned me not to talk to them. If they ask if they are talking to, then use your name, never say "yes." Ask them why they are asking if you think it might be a legitimate call.
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That is the second time I have heard about them splicing your words to create a verbal faux legal agreement. The real creative ones come from Nigeria. I always wonder is everyone in Nigeria corrupt?
 
I have a landline phone. Not my choice. The boss lady wants it. I purchased a set of three phones that have call blocking built in. If the number is not in the address book then the call is automatically blocked. On the rare occasion one does get thru there is a block call button. On my cell phone I do not answer calls from unknown numbers. The do not call list is worthless because only legitimate businesses observe the list.
 
One time , a few years ago, I decided to listen patiently to a sales pitch. Instead of hanging up on them as I normally do. And each time the sales person hit a pause, I would say "no thankyou". Whereupon they launch into more of their script. And each time they'd pause, I'd repeat "no thankyou", without hanging up.

They are pretty crafty with trying to get you to tell them WHY you don't want to buy their pitch. And all I would say is: " ....Because I'm not comfortable with it". Whereupon they launch into more script.

Finally, after 10 or 15 minutes, when the guy was starting to repeat script lines from the beginning, I asked him "Why don't you just call the next person on your list, instead of wasting time with me?". He confided in me that his system only calls OUT. It does not allow HIM to hang up. So he advised ME to hang up, in order to end the call.

I told him that I could never THINK of doing such a rude thing, as hanging up on him. And I could tell he was attempting to let their be long pauses (which their computerized system interprets as a hang up). So any time there was a pause, I would perpetually interject "hellos?".

This went on for nearly an hour ! The poor fellow could not hang up on me, d/t his computer system. Eventually he had to have a supervisor come on the line, who ... apparently knew how to over-ride the system and hang up on the line. I felt so bad for their wasted hour :laughing:
 
Mine is on the do not call list. It doesn't help much at all. The folks messing up your perfectly good day are high tech and can emulate most any phone number and switch often. I hate them as well. My new Hyundai has a 10 year 100,000 mile warrantee yet those telemarketers call non stop concerned that "My vehicle warrantee is expiring soon" and they want to help me with that issue. Wearing head phones while detecting muffles the sound of my ringer so I got that going for me. Lol
 
I've had my cell phone on the Do-Not-Call registry for many years now. It used to help a little, but over time it's devolved to the point that in the last year or two it's pretty much worthless. As others have said, the Do Not Call list only stops legitimate telemarketers, of which there are extremely few.

As many of you have probably noticed, over the last year or two, the number of phone scam calls using "local" numbers has skyrocketed. Your phone gets calls constantly that show up on caller ID as having the same area code and local exchange numbers...the first six digits of the caller ID number might even match your own phone. It's called "neighbor spoofing", and it's incredibly cheap and easy to do on a large scale.

Unfortunately, I never answer the phone anymore unless the call is identified as a named caller from my contact list. I let any unknown number, even local, go to voicemail - if it's legitimate or important, they'll leave a message. When I give my number out to new people, I even tell them that I aggressively screen my phone calls against telemarketing, so please leave a message if you get my voicemail, and I'll likely call them right back.

I also use a free app on my Android phone called Hiya to help identify potential spam calls. I've been using it for about 4 months, and it works very nicely.

For those that aren't familiar, here's a Better Business Bureau article on Neighbor Spoofing from mid-2018: A New Kind of Phone Scam: Neighbor Spoofing
 
Skippy SH13 said:
I've played with them from time to time. I've even had them call back to swear at me. One time in particular, when they called back, to swear at me, I told the guy that that his behavior scamming people was so poor that Shiva was going to spank him with all 4 arms.



Skippy
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Nobody wants to get spanked by Shiva the destroyer :lol:
 
Everyone from salers to your utility companies will sell your info - phone number, email address, home address etc. I know this one guy.. 😏 who only gives them an email address he never looks at and gives them a law firms phone number by accident. I follow my fathers example of stuffing all junk mail into the “no postage required” return envelopes and mail it back to them.
 
maxxkatt said:
That is the second time I have heard about them splicing your words to create a verbal faux legal agreement. The real creative ones come from Nigeria. I always wonder is everyone in Nigeria corrupt?
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They state attorney said that from the moment you answer the phone until the moment you hang up they are mining something they can sell from you. Just the act of answering the call is worth something to them. I'm not telling anyone what to do, but he told me not to try to play with them. The longer you are on the phone with them the more they are mining.
 
Yes you can but it does NO good. I've been every type of DNC list and the bogus calls keep coming. The DNC list cannot control spam calls from outside the US anyway, which is where many come from. This situation is just too far out of control. And now they are "neighbor spoofing" by using local looking numbers so people will think it's someone nearby. I heard the government has fined robocallers over a billion dollars and can't even collect 1/10th of it so DON'T look to the Feds for any relief.

I've even had bogus calls from MY OWN phone number!
 
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My wife tends to get a lot more spam robo calls than I do, we got in the habit of usually just not answering numbers we do not recognize, we figure if it is a legitimate call they will leave a message, but sometimes even those robo calls will leave a message too :lol:

I have my phone programmed so people I know or businesses/offices I might occasionally contact, when they call me, instead of a ring, a voice app will instead say "Excuse me sir, (name of person or business) is calling" so I know it is a legitimate call even before I take my smartphone out of it's holder :lol:
 
Great videos on you tube ! Check out scamming the scammers . Great way to waste some time !
 
maxxkatt said:
I always thought that the gov do not call list was only for landlines or home phones.

but it will now take cell phone numbers. Maybe I am the only one who didn't know this.

https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx

so if you are getting spam calls on your cell phone, this may or may not help. time will tell.

john
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Do not bother to do so. I tried to report a certain number and the hoops I had to jump through were too much. It just wasn't worth the effort. I just delete the calls. It's a shame because you lose so much time per day dealing with these bogus callers. It almost makes me wish I never had a cell phone. Btw, home phone is just as bad.
 
Wom 27 said:
Great videos on you tube ! Check out scamming the scammers . Great way to waste some time !
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Yes! Some of these have the robocallers tearing their hair out. Especially the one computer specialist that gained control of the spammer's computers and wiped out his System 32 files. The spammer was begging HIM to fix the disabled computers, even offering $1000 each to do it!

Priceless!
 
Tom_in_CA said:
One time , a few years ago, I decided to listen patiently to a sales pitch. Instead of hanging up on them as I normally do. And each time the sales person hit a pause, I would say "no thankyou". Whereupon they launch into more of their script. And each time they'd pause, I'd repeat "no thankyou", without hanging up.

They are pretty crafty with trying to get you to tell them WHY you don't want to buy their pitch. And all I would say is: " ....Because I'm not comfortable with it". Whereupon they launch into more script.

Finally, after 10 or 15 minutes, when the guy was starting to repeat script lines from the beginning, I asked him "Why don't you just call the next person on your list, instead of wasting time with me?". He confided in me that his system only calls OUT. It does not allow HIM to hang up. So he advised ME to hang up, in order to end the call.

I told him that I could never THINK of doing such a rude thing, as hanging up on him. And I could tell he was attempting to let their be long pauses (which their computerized system interprets as a hang up). So any time there was a pause, I would perpetually interject "hellos?".

This went on for nearly an hour ! The poor fellow could not hang up on me, d/t his computer system. Eventually he had to have a supervisor come on the line, who ... apparently knew how to over-ride the system and hang up on the line. I felt so bad for their wasted hour :laughing:
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Tom, why feel bad? they waste our time all the time.

By the way, many years ago I had to visit a local call center to fix a software bug on their computer. My first impression? Many, many of the people working the call center on that day had not taken a bath in a week or more and probably not even thought to apply a little under arm deodorant. Was motivated to fix the software bug quickly and bug out.
 
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