I have a whites xlt but haven't had much luck. Mainely because there has been a huge accretion of sand on the beach! I was reading older forums and window shopping at kellyco They are having a sale on PI and Beachhunter models. I figure there can't be much sand left at the bottom of the ocean - it's all above the water line here! Anyone know if kellyco takes trade-ins? They aren't open on Sundays to ask.