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Old 08-11-2017, 10:05 PM
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Default Deus full tones verse pitch

This is a test I did on full tones and pitch with a silver coin in iron to see how each set of tones acted on a silver coin with nails around it on top of ground and in ground.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:08 PM
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Nice video Calabash.

A couple things here about pitch use.

Take a look at the pic below. (Nail and clad dime)
Calabash you may decide to do a video here with similar placed items and show folks the differences.

First of all, the use to pitch tones, more or less follows the use of multitones like 2 tone, 3 tones, etc,,,meaning you must run a disc high enough to knock out the nails and iron.

I have posted about this before, but not about pitch tones use.

In the pick below, you sweep the 9" LF coil down the barrel of nail,,using full tones, O disc ,,, reactvity 3 will a user ever know the dime is there?
Nope
As a matter a fact even when using full tones, if a user will while sweeping down the barrel of the nail trying to get tone detection of dime,,,as they raise disc a user will notice disc has to be raised to approx 3-3.2 to begin to hear the dime.

Now this tone provided on dime running disc of 3-3.3 while in full tones,,I rate here as mediocre at best, still intelligent.
But with the same settings here, change from full tones to pitch and listen.
Now so folks don't get confused here, I am not advocating running pitch with disc at 3-3.3 in irony sites.
But a user can up the disc to around 6 and sure hunt well in these kinds of sites.
And by all means in this experiment raise your disc to 6 using pitch and listen, and compare to full tones with disc level 3-2.3 dialed in.

So, if wearing back phones and it's windy, pitch might help discern signals better.
Using external speaker it may help.
If a person is hard of hearing it will help.

Just think, this is same plane configuration here. Simple setup compared to 3D scenario.
Beginner Deus users.
This experiement, all need to do.
Extremely low disc or no disc (while using full tones) is not the answer to detect some nonferrous targets using Deus.

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Old 08-12-2017, 06:29 PM
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This thread should be titled XP Deus Nerds 2...


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Old 08-12-2017, 06:32 PM
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This thread should be titled XP Deus Nerds 2...


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Maybe.

For folks who do a lot of door knocking, and say they get only one shot to hunt a site,,,full tones lower or no disc may not be the best answer.
Some simple detecting scenarios could be missed with just one pass of a Deus coil.

This would especially hold true for a yard that has seen previous action by a detectorist.
Even by a fbs/fbs2 runner.

Where signals could be few and far between.
Deus will alert!!

You see normally Deus users don't mind digging deeper things that don't ID.
Guess what, what about digging shallow things that don't ID yet provide tone? ( I stand corrected here signals that provide very low meter readings)
Hint hint.
And for gee whiz here, don't think for one minute you can push your pinpoint button and make an absolute decision here for digging or not.
That nail in the pic would be picked up making the target look bigger than the dime.
Now it is possible to turn on such a target scenario while sweeping and maybe get a better ID. No guarantees though.

In the pic running disc at 6 and pitch, sweeping down the barrel of nail, Great signal,, remove the dime noota, no,signal period.
ID is guess what in the meter sweeping down the barrel?
06
And with horseshoe icon displayed, it swaps sides on sweeps fro left to right. Right to left. Depending.

Rotate 90 degrees sweep across the barrel of nail, ID in meter reads between 27-40.
And the dime sitting solo reads 91.
18khz used btw.

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Old 08-12-2017, 07:28 PM
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I set my disc to suit the conditions, but it's rarely above 6.1 i'm finding it needs low disc in pitch for it to work in iron, i think CD was running disc at 10 in his vid.
Here it is at 6.1 in pitch vs full tones on a small nail and a low to mid conductor silver coin.

https://youtu.be/NmnYGcMCAmg
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Originally Posted by ghound View post
I set my disc to suit the conditions, but it's rarely above 6.1 i'm finding it needs low disc in pitch for it to work in iron, i think CD was running disc at 10 in his vid.
Here it is at 6.1 in pitch vs full tones on a small nail and a low to mid conductor silver coin.

https://youtu.be/NmnYGcMCAmg
Video shows precisely what I described.
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Ghound.
How about a video using pitch and disc 6.1 over a big price of iron like horseshoe or something.

Then full tones with the same disc swung over.

To see which method is easier to pick out bigger iron based on tone nuance that breaks the disc.

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You my friend can just call me DR. Deus Sir lol
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Originally Posted by calabash digger View post
You my friend can just call me DR. Deus Sir lol


Ok, Doc. I'm not intellectually capable of handling the full on Deus so I just waste my time swinging the Lite,


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I have been experimenting with a disc of 6 in my relic program and like it after the site has been discovered.

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Old 08-13-2017, 04:08 AM
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Good idea, though i do like to dig some of the larger iron items on old sites, could be an interesting relic.


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Ghound.
How about a video using pitch and disc 6.1 over a big price of iron like horseshoe or something.

Then full tones with the same disc swung over.

To see which method is easier to pick out bigger iron based on tone nuance that breaks the disc.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:18 PM
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Where did that come from ? If your swinging a lite you are missing out no doubt about it though.
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