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Old 07-05-2017, 08:30 PM
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Default Good Luck 57 Token with Swastika symbol

Greetings all from 95 degree / 100% humidity FLA! Was just hunting after work and happened upon my first "good luck" token. Not finding to much on this one and am hoping the real Pro's can help me!

It's real clean and sharp. What an awesome hobby!!

Thx for the help......
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:43 PM
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I thought the 57 looked familiar. Check this out. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tika-501119131

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Old 07-05-2017, 08:43 PM
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This seller says the 57 is from Heinz 57, but I've yet to confirm that. Does yours have the Whitehead&Hoag mark on it?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tika-501119131
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:52 PM
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Here's a watch fob with the same 57. http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-J-Heinz-Pi...sAAOSwXXxZW~Vw

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Old 07-05-2017, 09:02 PM
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I agree, looking around online they did use the 57 a fair amount on advertising items without specifically saying Heinz. Good job Bayou!
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:21 AM
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Default Thx for the info - still looking

Still trying to find more on this thing? Only "true" reference was the ended auction. Can't find a lick of info beyond that. This is truly a strange and hopefully rare one......
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You might try contacting Heinz for more info.

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The only other one I could find was this listing, but it has no background information. I noted that he'd listed it previously a couple of times, so I presume market value is somewhere below $75.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GOOD-LU...0AAOSw3ydVt5Tx
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:18 AM
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Here is a link to a Heinz Museum. You may be able to send a picture to have it verified.
http://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/exhibits/heinz

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actually a good luck symbol, not a swastika. was that before the Nazi's adopted it.

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Originally Posted by dixiedigger57 View post
actually a good luck symbol, not a swastika. was that before the Nazi's adopted it.
Nope, it's a swastika. The term, like the symbol itself, pre-dates the Nazi party.
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Pretty neat. Before the Nazi party, the Swastika was used as a symbol of good luck just like the clover and horse shoe on that token.

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If the Heinz company was responsible for these "lucky" tokens, this might have some bearing on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_57
[Henry J. Heinz introduced the marketing slogan "57 pickle Varieties" in 1896. Heinz said he chose "5" because it was his lucky number and the number "7" was his wife's lucky number. In fact by 1892, four years before the slogan was created, the Heinz company was already selling more than 60 products.]

The only other interesting cross-match I saw with swastika/57/token was:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West...y_20th_century
[Collectors have identified more than 1,400 different swastika design coins, souvenir or merchant/trade tokens and watch fobs, distributed by mostly local retail and service businesses in the United States. The tokens that can be dated range from 1885 to 1939, with a few later exceptions. About 57 percent have the swastika symbol facing to the left, 43 percent to the right.]

...your token's swastika faces left.

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Originally Posted by BullBat View post
If the Heinz company was responsible for these "lucky" tokens, this might have some bearing on it.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_57

[Henry J. Heinz introduced the marketing slogan "57 pickle Varieties" in 1896. Heinz said he chose "5" because it was his lucky number and the number "7" was his wife's lucky number. In fact by 1892, four years before the slogan was created, the Heinz company was already selling more than 60 products.]



The only other interesting cross-match I saw with swastika/57/token was:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West...y_20th_century

[Collectors have identified more than 1,400 different swastika design coins, souvenir or merchant/trade tokens and watch fobs, distributed by mostly local retail and service businesses in the United States. The tokens that can be dated range from 1885 to 1939, with a few later exceptions. About 57 percent have the swastika symbol facing to the left, 43 percent to the right.]



...your token's swastika faces left.


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I do stand corrected. the term is right and I believe came from northern India actually and predates the Nazis. its not a "NAZI SWASTIKA" per se used by Heinz. like many other things, people adopted emblems and such like the gangs adopting sports teams due to colors they wear and geographic locations of the teams.

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It does look an awful lot like the 57 used by Heinz, that was my first impression, something Heinz related. I would also have to guess it was produced prior to the formation of the Nazi party.

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