Gee, I'm terribly sorry. It's ok if you do judge because I haven't bought anything from either Bart or Jeff and, if Jeff is as good as you say he is, he doesn't need defending on this forum. I don't believe though that in a single FMDF post I could hijack anything from any merchant worth his beans. My post was regarding a talk...not a purchase from a seller, and I was giving my opinion regarding a bad purchase experience from another ebay seller, which was neither Jeff or Bart. I was giving credit for Bart being a good "listener" because SierraBob asked the question about a seller treating him like he was interrupted by the customer. My appology to Jeff and I welcome him to the FMDF. I do note the same sort of territorialism developing here I found on Ancestry, Archives.com and findagrave which ran me completely out of genealogy.