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Old 10-11-2019, 10:32 AM
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i know the one is a knife all it says on it is hong kong. anybody know the age of it? the other thing i do not know what it is, looks to be made of copper or maybe brass, looks kind'a like sliver but its not. thank you's.Name:  71728460_2985070341718418_8236664637026729984_n.jpg
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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As far as the butter spreader, the man/god depicted is Shouxing. He is a symbol for longevity.

Anyway, here's a set of the utensils. You'll see our friend Shouxing on a few of the pieces. Apparently, some are marked Hong Kong, some are marked Thailand and some are marked Siam. I'd have to look more closely at other sets to see if this set was cobbled together from multiple sets or if they were actually made in different countries, or if they were just incorrectly marked that way for marketing reasons.

https://www.etsy.com/sg-en/listing/5...rving-utensils

Anyway, I agree with the link above that the utensil is likely from the 1940s. That's when Siam became Thailand, although the Siam marking persisted on various pieces.

If not then, it would likely have to be much later, like the 1970s. There was a trade embargo against China from the 1950s (Korean war) until the early 1970s.

So, one trick to figuring out dates is in the naming of countries, and whether there were embargos against imports from certain countries during certain time periods. (Of course, this won't work well if the item eventually came to the US via another country.)

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Nice knife but the other item is the big headline here.
That is a Submarine Warfare Insignia also known as the fish or dolphin.
Many country's naval branches issue this or a version of it to qualified submariners but this one is american.
The modern navy issues these in solid silver and gold now, in the past they were gold plated bronze for the officers with only patches for the enlisted and then eventually upgraded to silver or gold plated bronze for all that qualified 1950.


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Enlisted Sailors and Naval Officers wear a dolphins uniform breast pin to indicate that they are qualified in submarines. The Submarines insignia is considered one of the Navy's three major enlisted warfare pins along with the Surface Warfare Badge and the Enlisted Aviation Warfare Specialist insignia. To earn the right to wear "fish", prospective submariners complete an extensive qualification process that lasts about one year (for both enlisted and officers, though the two programs differ significantly) and covers virtually all of the submarine's systems. Once an enlisted sailor has earned the right to wear the "dolphins", (SS) is added after their rate of rank that stands for "Submarine Specialist".


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subm...rfare_insignia

Way, way cool and I assume a very rare find.
I have seen many paratroopers pins and some others posted for years but never one of these.
Great piece of history!

Take a few better pictures then repost it or retitle your thread for way more action, I bet there a lot of hunters out there that would love to take a look at this thing for future reference.

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Old 10-12-2019, 11:52 AM
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thank's for the info guy's. i looked up that Submarines insignia, i dont see where any pins would of been on there, there's nothing broken off. digger27 would you know around what year it is?

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Deep wave" pin-back - 50's or 60's by Hilborn & Hamburgering.

https://www.aboutsubs.com/dolphins.htm

Don't know what else it could be if not a pin.

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