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Old 09-22-2020, 02:16 PM
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Had a really quick hunt at an old park with civil war activity here in Chicago and found this. I'm not familiar with bullets but would anyone know if this is civil war and what type of bullet this is? It's small so probably from a pistol (?). Thanks!
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Could some better pictures. First impression is that it is not civil war. Seems to be some vertical crimp marks or something....

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Added more photos. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by VA-REB View post
Could some better pictures. First impression is that it is not civil war. Seems to be some vertical crimp marks or something....
Just added more photos. You're probably right, it might not be that old but perhaps still relatively old? Any idea on the type of gun or bullet? Trying to dig around for more info at the moment.

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Wow not sure on age but that white patina makes me think old. The style however screams more modern to me so if I had to guess it's somewhere in between. I know not super helpful but thought it was better than nothing

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Adding another picture with measurements.
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Originally Posted by SilverSlayer98 View post
Wow not sure on age but that white patina makes me think old. The style however screams more modern to me so if I had to guess it's somewhere in between. I know not super helpful but thought it was better than nothing

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Yeah, that's throwing me off. Can't find anything similar but it does scream old based on the patina. 🤷🏽!♂️

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Originally Posted by BlueHuntsCoins View post
Adding another picture with measurements.
I believe it's a 38 special possibly

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Originally Posted by SilverSlayer98 View post
I believe it's a 38 special possibly

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Yes, also thinking .38 special so semi-modern to modern.
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Thanks, everyone! I'm doing more research now that I have a few leads. Quick question though, do 38 specials have this same 2 rings? I can't seem to compare this with ones I've found, old and new. Thanks!

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38's can have one two or even three groves. They are for lube. usually some form of beeswax mixed with other stuff and other types of lube. Many types out there. It for sure has been in the ground for some time with that oxidation on it. But it looks more modern as the nose is what's called a round nose flat point. I am no expert but I believe the CW bullets were all pointed. I've cast 1000's of them, the modern shaped ones.

What's interesting is the diameter. 38's are cast at about 0.357-0.359 so I suspect the oxidation is adding a bit to that diameter.

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So there would be multiple things it could be.

1) A cast round from someone who had a very worn or out of spec barrel in the earlier days of .38 like from a .38 Long Colt.

2) A very lightweight cast round from a 38-55 rifle (which I think is unlikely)

3) My actual guess is it is a .380 Rook. British round and if you weigh it, should most likely be pretty close to 124 grains.
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Originally Posted by bunkeru2k View post
So there would be multiple things it could be.

1) A cast round from someone who had a very worn or out of spec barrel in the earlier days of .38 like from a .38 Long Colt.

2) A very lightweight cast round from a 38-55 rifle (which I think is unlikely)

3) My actual guess is it is a .380 Rook. British round and if you weigh it, should most likely be pretty close to 124 grains.

Thanks for the info! I'll weigh it tom and let you know. 👍🏼

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