Thanks.
I think you will enjoy your coil once it arrives.
Good luck solving your home problems.
Minelab Equinox 6” coil commentary with pics
- Thread starter tnsharpshooter
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Thanks.
I think you will enjoy your coil once it arrives.
Good luck solving your home problems.
Note pic here.
That’s a big nail.
Down the barrel sweeps comparing the following detectors with results.
Equinox with 6”coil =pass, mulitple detect modes.
Deus with Hf elliptical coil=pass, 28khz and 74khz.
Deus with round 9”Hf coil = FAIL, disc as low as 6.4tried too, even fails at 54khz.
Nokta Impact with elliptical 4x7 coil =passes in 14 and 20khz.
Now, remember I can strike this nickel even with the round Hf coil on Deus is I approach from different angle vs down the barrel.
So, if nonferrous were laying in the fashion above in a site and shallower.
And Inhad to pick a detector and hunt from just one angle detecting.
Deus with round Hf coil would be my last choice of the ones above.
But we don’t know how things are arranged in a site do we?
I can also say with 100% certainty, if all a person is using in an old relic site and all they are using is round Hf coil on Deus.
Can the site deemed dead of nonferrous?
No way in th world.
Better take Nox and small coil in, or Impact and small coil in, or Deus with elliptical Hf coil in.
Or even perhaps a Makro multi Kruzer in with smaller coil.
Or better yet take all 3 of the above in and hunt.
Btw my 100% certainty comment is based on actual head to head using the above on targets in the wild.
I report, you decide.
Note my signature line, they are all there for a reason.
Also remember some of the detectors above have other good attributes when it comes to detecting, like gives better ID of target.
This can come in real handy sometimes hunting mixed history sites.
I don’t like digging smaller foil.
That’s a big nail.
Down the barrel sweeps comparing the following detectors with results.
Equinox with 6”coil =pass, mulitple detect modes.
Deus with Hf elliptical coil=pass, 28khz and 74khz.
Deus with round 9”Hf coil = FAIL, disc as low as 6.4tried too, even fails at 54khz.
Nokta Impact with elliptical 4x7 coil =passes in 14 and 20khz.
Now, remember I can strike this nickel even with the round Hf coil on Deus is I approach from different angle vs down the barrel.
So, if nonferrous were laying in the fashion above in a site and shallower.
And Inhad to pick a detector and hunt from just one angle detecting.
Deus with round Hf coil would be my last choice of the ones above.
But we don’t know how things are arranged in a site do we?
I can also say with 100% certainty, if all a person is using in an old relic site and all they are using is round Hf coil on Deus.
Can the site deemed dead of nonferrous?
No way in th world.
Better take Nox and small coil in, or Impact and small coil in, or Deus with elliptical Hf coil in.
Or even perhaps a Makro multi Kruzer in with smaller coil.
Or better yet take all 3 of the above in and hunt.
Btw my 100% certainty comment is based on actual head to head using the above on targets in the wild.
I report, you decide.
Note my signature line, they are all there for a reason.
Also remember some of the detectors above have other good attributes when it comes to detecting, like gives better ID of target.
This can come in real handy sometimes hunting mixed history sites.
I don’t like digging smaller foil.
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More Emi testing.
Okay yesterday I witnessed something using single frequency ops with Equinox while using Nokta Impact At 20 kHz to act as my emitter (spoiler).
So, today I got to thinking, what about Mulit freq? Just how is it compromised is say an emitter is sharing similar same frequency?
So with some experimenting using Equinox Park 2 detect mode, I kept changing Impact detector’s channel trying to find a culprit matchup where Equinox was indeed being operated.
I was successful, and I could tell by listening with either noise cancel submenu open or ground balance menu open.
Channel 2 on Equinox Park 2 in conflict with Impact at 20 khz channel 5.
Btw, Impact detector lets me know this too, mindblowing chatter, solid, no breaks in rhythm.
So I proceeded to do airtest using class dime from top of Equinox’s 6” coil.
I get right at 10” airtest distance with steady tone. Remember Impact is At conflicted settings while doing.
Ext do a noise cancel, yep Impact quiets down, do another airtest with clad dime, basically same as before 10”.
Now I don’t know exact frequency weighting of park 2.
I will say some folks think and I believe it’s true, the good folks at Minelab gave us Manual noise cancel feature. And some thought this was for Emi mitigation.
And I think it is too, and there are far more more powerful emiiters than the Impact detector, one might find around the world.
So, based on just these tests above, it seems even though one frequency used in detect mode is conflicted, this doesn’t spoil Equinox’s whole act here. The other freqs seem to keep the show going.
Wish I still had my Rutus, with its range of frequency offered, I could really get in the weeds using it to do some testing.
Test above redone using US nickel instead of clad dime.
Same thing witnessed.
Equinox ran in a seemingly conflicted status vs after doing noise cancel, I get virtually same air test results -11.5”
Remember there are power lines about 20ft to my left in pic.
Okay yesterday I witnessed something using single frequency ops with Equinox while using Nokta Impact At 20 kHz to act as my emitter (spoiler).
So, today I got to thinking, what about Mulit freq? Just how is it compromised is say an emitter is sharing similar same frequency?
So with some experimenting using Equinox Park 2 detect mode, I kept changing Impact detector’s channel trying to find a culprit matchup where Equinox was indeed being operated.
I was successful, and I could tell by listening with either noise cancel submenu open or ground balance menu open.
Channel 2 on Equinox Park 2 in conflict with Impact at 20 khz channel 5.
Btw, Impact detector lets me know this too, mindblowing chatter, solid, no breaks in rhythm.
So I proceeded to do airtest using class dime from top of Equinox’s 6” coil.
I get right at 10” airtest distance with steady tone. Remember Impact is At conflicted settings while doing.
Ext do a noise cancel, yep Impact quiets down, do another airtest with clad dime, basically same as before 10”.
Now I don’t know exact frequency weighting of park 2.
I will say some folks think and I believe it’s true, the good folks at Minelab gave us Manual noise cancel feature. And some thought this was for Emi mitigation.
And I think it is too, and there are far more more powerful emiiters than the Impact detector, one might find around the world.
So, based on just these tests above, it seems even though one frequency used in detect mode is conflicted, this doesn’t spoil Equinox’s whole act here. The other freqs seem to keep the show going.
Wish I still had my Rutus, with its range of frequency offered, I could really get in the weeds using it to do some testing.
Test above redone using US nickel instead of clad dime.
Same thing witnessed.
Equinox ran in a seemingly conflicted status vs after doing noise cancel, I get virtually same air test results -11.5”
Remember there are power lines about 20ft to my left in pic.
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Another EmI test.
This time a double whammy to try and take Nox out performance wise.
Equinox park 2 channel 2 used.
Impact left at 20khz channel 5, I found what seems like (based on audio) provided by Nox and Deus to conflict with Nox.
Freq of 14815 hz using elliptical Hf coil.
All 3 detectors in pic around 4-4.5 ft apart.
Again checking airtest distances using both clad dime and us nickel.
Comparing while seemingly conflicted vs after noise cancel. Virtually same air test distances measured.
10”for clad dime.
11.5”for nickel.
After noise cancel both Deus and Impact much more quieter.
Btw, Equinox using 15khz, channel 3 single freq, is in direct conflict with Deus Hf coil at 14815 hz
Even in detect mode screen, no submenus open, Equinox is extreme chatter, no detection possible at all.
Worst interference here I have witnessed thus far.
This time a double whammy to try and take Nox out performance wise.
Equinox park 2 channel 2 used.
Impact left at 20khz channel 5, I found what seems like (based on audio) provided by Nox and Deus to conflict with Nox.
Freq of 14815 hz using elliptical Hf coil.
All 3 detectors in pic around 4-4.5 ft apart.
Again checking airtest distances using both clad dime and us nickel.
Comparing while seemingly conflicted vs after noise cancel. Virtually same air test distances measured.
10”for clad dime.
11.5”for nickel.
After noise cancel both Deus and Impact much more quieter.
Btw, Equinox using 15khz, channel 3 single freq, is in direct conflict with Deus Hf coil at 14815 hz
Even in detect mode screen, no submenus open, Equinox is extreme chatter, no detection possible at all.
Worst interference here I have witnessed thus far.
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DaviDs
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Great work! Only thing I wish you would have done is a test using beach mode #2. That would apply to all of us salt water hunters.
Jason in Enid
Elite Member
are you really that dense? 
What about Nox and Etrac.
How do they play together.
Detectors are around 4ft apart formthe testing below.
Etrac ran at 27 Manual sens and Nox at 24 sensitivity.
6 inch coils on both units.
When i use the term unusable below, I am saying audio on one or both detectors imo based on what I hear, detector deemed unusable at the approx proximity of 4 ft. More distance between could cure some of the affects maybe.
Now, here all I did was listen to Equinox wearing wireless headphones and listening to etrac’s external speaker mainly to note any conflicts.
And there are some it seems.
I’ll check all modes and freqs on. Ox and post here.
Here is a start.
Channel 1 selected on Etrac
Multi freq using using Nox every detect mode checked with Etrac at channel 1 manually selected. Nox channel -4 unusable, Nox tied up in knots.
So it seems the same freq is used in each detect mode per channel maybe.
Also while in park 1, both 5khz and 15 kHz and 40khz single frequency on Equinox is in direct conflict it seems with Etrac channel 1, with Equinox At channel 8. Etrac unusable.
Park 2, Field 1and 2 checked all single freqs.
Same affects as noted above with park 1.
Other modes checked, same affects with freq selected and channel selected as noted above.
Now switch Etrac to channel 2.
Etrac unusable using multi frequency all detect modes while equinox in channels -9, -4, and 9.
Single freq 5khz channel 2 Equinox renders Etrac unusable.
Single freq 15khz used on Equinox renders Etrac unusable with Nox in channels 2and 9.
Single freq 40khz channels 2 and 9 on Equinox renders Etrac unusable.
Next channel 3 Etrac.
Equinox multi freq used, channels -1, 0 and 9 make Etrac unusable.
Channel 5 selected on Nox makes it unusable.
5khz selected on Nox channels -4 and -1 renders Etrac unusable.
10khz selected -4, -3 and 0 renders Etrac unusable.
Channel 9 selected Nox unusable
15khz selected on Nox channels -4 and -1 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok on all channels.
20khz selected on Equinox channel -3 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok in all channels audio wise.
40khz selected on Nox, channels -3, 0 and 9 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good on all channels audio wise.
Etrac channel 4 selected
Equinox in mulit frequency channels 6 and 8 renders Etrac unusable.
Single freq 5khz and 10khz no serious conflicts heard either way with detectors.
Single freq 15 kHz on Nox, channels -7 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, channel 0 makes Nox unusable
Single freq 20kh selected on Nox, channel -2 makes Etrac unusable. Channel 0 makes both Nox and Etrac unusable.
Single freq 40khz selected on Nox, channels -8 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, no serious conflicts noted with Nox (audio wise)
Etrac channel 5 selected
Equinox using Multi freq rendered unusable channels -7, 4,5 and 6.
Etrac rendered unusable channels 8 and 9.
5khz selected on Equinox, channel -5 renders Etrac unusable.
10khz selected on Equinox channels -7, -5 and -3 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok, no serious conflicts heard audio wise.
15khz selected on Equinox, channels -5, -3, and -1 render Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good, no serious conflicts noted based on audio alone.
20khz selected on Equinox, channels -9 and -7 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good on all channels.
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good all channels.
Etrac channel 6 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2 and -1 render Nox unusable
Channels -8, -4 and 5 makes Etrac unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox channels -1 and 0 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -1, 5 and 9 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 7 rendered Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
20khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
40khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted either detector.
Etrac channel 7 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox. Channels -8 and -7 render Nox unusable.
Channels 1 and 3 make Etrac unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted either detector.
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -2 and 7 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 2 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
20khz selected on Equninox, channels 7 and 8 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel 1 rendered Equinox unusable, channel 6 rendered Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 8 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -9, -1 and 3 rendered Etrac unusable.
Equinox sounds ok all channels.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels 6, 7 and 8 render Equinox unusable
Channels 0 and 7 render Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, channels 2and 8 renders Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
40 kHz selected on Equinox, channels 0 and 6 render Etrac unusable
Equinox sounded ok all channels
Etrac Channel 9 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -6, -3, 3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable. Channel -3 rendered Equinox unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -1, 0 and 1 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -3, 0, 7 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable
Channel 0 rendered Equinox unusable
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered by detectors unusable
20khz selected on Equinox, channels -3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -3 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
Etrac channel 10 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels 1, 4 and 9 render Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -8 and -6 render Equinox unusable
Channels -7, 6 and 7 render Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel -6 rendered Etrac unusable.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Etrac sounded ok all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts. Obed either detector.
40 kHz selected on Equinox, channels -6 and -1 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
Etrac channel 11 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2, 2 and 5 render Etrac unusable
Channel 4 rendered Equinox unusable
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -6, -2 and 9 render Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -3 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
15khz selected on Equinox, channels -6 and 5 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, channel -9 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -1 renders Equinox unusable
Channels 2 and 3 renders Etrac unusable
How do they play together.
Detectors are around 4ft apart formthe testing below.
Etrac ran at 27 Manual sens and Nox at 24 sensitivity.
6 inch coils on both units.
When i use the term unusable below, I am saying audio on one or both detectors imo based on what I hear, detector deemed unusable at the approx proximity of 4 ft. More distance between could cure some of the affects maybe.
Now, here all I did was listen to Equinox wearing wireless headphones and listening to etrac’s external speaker mainly to note any conflicts.
And there are some it seems.
I’ll check all modes and freqs on. Ox and post here.
Here is a start.
Channel 1 selected on Etrac
Multi freq using using Nox every detect mode checked with Etrac at channel 1 manually selected. Nox channel -4 unusable, Nox tied up in knots.
So it seems the same freq is used in each detect mode per channel maybe.
Also while in park 1, both 5khz and 15 kHz and 40khz single frequency on Equinox is in direct conflict it seems with Etrac channel 1, with Equinox At channel 8. Etrac unusable.
Park 2, Field 1and 2 checked all single freqs.
Same affects as noted above with park 1.
Other modes checked, same affects with freq selected and channel selected as noted above.
Now switch Etrac to channel 2.
Etrac unusable using multi frequency all detect modes while equinox in channels -9, -4, and 9.
Single freq 5khz channel 2 Equinox renders Etrac unusable.
Single freq 15khz used on Equinox renders Etrac unusable with Nox in channels 2and 9.
Single freq 40khz channels 2 and 9 on Equinox renders Etrac unusable.
Next channel 3 Etrac.
Equinox multi freq used, channels -1, 0 and 9 make Etrac unusable.
Channel 5 selected on Nox makes it unusable.
5khz selected on Nox channels -4 and -1 renders Etrac unusable.
10khz selected -4, -3 and 0 renders Etrac unusable.
Channel 9 selected Nox unusable
15khz selected on Nox channels -4 and -1 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok on all channels.
20khz selected on Equinox channel -3 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok in all channels audio wise.
40khz selected on Nox, channels -3, 0 and 9 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good on all channels audio wise.
Etrac channel 4 selected
Equinox in mulit frequency channels 6 and 8 renders Etrac unusable.
Single freq 5khz and 10khz no serious conflicts heard either way with detectors.
Single freq 15 kHz on Nox, channels -7 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, channel 0 makes Nox unusable
Single freq 20kh selected on Nox, channel -2 makes Etrac unusable. Channel 0 makes both Nox and Etrac unusable.
Single freq 40khz selected on Nox, channels -8 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, no serious conflicts noted with Nox (audio wise)
Etrac channel 5 selected
Equinox using Multi freq rendered unusable channels -7, 4,5 and 6.
Etrac rendered unusable channels 8 and 9.
5khz selected on Equinox, channel -5 renders Etrac unusable.
10khz selected on Equinox channels -7, -5 and -3 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok, no serious conflicts heard audio wise.
15khz selected on Equinox, channels -5, -3, and -1 render Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good, no serious conflicts noted based on audio alone.
20khz selected on Equinox, channels -9 and -7 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good on all channels.
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded good all channels.
Etrac channel 6 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2 and -1 render Nox unusable
Channels -8, -4 and 5 makes Etrac unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox channels -1 and 0 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -1, 5 and 9 renders Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 7 rendered Etrac unusable.
Nox sounded ok all channels.
20khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
40khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted either detector.
Etrac channel 7 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox. Channels -8 and -7 render Nox unusable.
Channels 1 and 3 make Etrac unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted either detector.
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -2 and 7 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 2 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels.
20khz selected on Equninox, channels 7 and 8 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel 1 rendered Equinox unusable, channel 6 rendered Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 8 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -9, -1 and 3 rendered Etrac unusable.
Equinox sounds ok all channels.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels 6, 7 and 8 render Equinox unusable
Channels 0 and 7 render Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts noted
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded good all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, channels 2and 8 renders Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
40 kHz selected on Equinox, channels 0 and 6 render Etrac unusable
Equinox sounded ok all channels
Etrac Channel 9 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -6, -3, 3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable. Channel -3 rendered Equinox unusable.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -1, 0 and 1 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel 0 rendered Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, channels -3, 0, 7 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable
Channel 0 rendered Equinox unusable
15khz selected on Equinox, channel 0 rendered by detectors unusable
20khz selected on Equinox, channels -3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -3 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
Etrac channel 10 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels 1, 4 and 9 render Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -8 and -6 render Equinox unusable
Channels -7, 6 and 7 render Etrac unusable
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel -6 rendered Etrac unusable.
15khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Etrac sounded ok all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, no serious conflicts. Obed either detector.
40 kHz selected on Equinox, channels -6 and -1 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels.
Etrac channel 11 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2, 2 and 5 render Etrac unusable
Channel 4 rendered Equinox unusable
5khz selected on Equinox, channels -6, -2 and 9 render Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -3 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
15khz selected on Equinox, channels -6 and 5 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok all channels
20khz selected on Equinox, channel -9 rendered Etrac unusable
Nox sounded ok channels
40khz selected on Equinox, channel -1 renders Equinox unusable
Channels 2 and 3 renders Etrac unusable
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To conclude the Emi testing I went back and spot checked to see how well noise cancel actually worked.
These spot checks I did see the same conflicts this morning as yesterday. I noise canceled with Equinox at less than 4ft from Etrac’s coil.
ALL spot checks passed (total of 10 noise cancels done with each )meaning doing noise cancel on Equinox 800 always went to a non conflicted channel, with Nox audio quiet. Etrac audio though after doing Nox noise cancel not always quiet. So Nox runners and Etrac runners may find each other doing mulitple noise cancels to find stable operations.
Here are the spot checks.
I geared most to running Equinox in multi frequency.
Channel 1 selected on Etrac
Multi freq using using Nox every detect mode checked with Etrac at channel 1 manually selected. Nox channel -4 unusable.
Etrac channel 2.
Single freq 15khz used on Equinox renders Etrac unusable with Nox in channels 2and 9.
Etrac channel 3 selected.
Equinox multi freq used, channels -1, 0 and 9 make Etrac unusable.
Channel 5 selected on Nox makes it unusable.
Etrac channel 4 selected
Single freq 15 kHz on Nox, channels -7 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, channel 0 makes Nox unusable
Etrac channel 5 selected
Equinox using Multi freq rendered unusable channels -7, 4,5 and 6.
Etrac rendered unusable channels 8 and 9.
Etrac channel 6 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2 and -1 render Nox unusable
Channels -8, -4 and 5 makes Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 7 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox. Channels -8 and -7 render Nox unusable.
Channels 1 and 3 make Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 8 selected
5khz selected on Equinox, channels 6, 7 and 8 render Equinox unusable
Channels 0 and 7 render Etrac unusable
Etrac Channel 9 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -6, -3, 3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable. Channel -3 rendered Equinox unusable.
Etrac channel 10 selected
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel -6 rendered Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 11 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2, 2 and 5 render Etrac unusable
Channel 4 rendered Equinox unusable
These spot checks I did see the same conflicts this morning as yesterday. I noise canceled with Equinox at less than 4ft from Etrac’s coil.
ALL spot checks passed (total of 10 noise cancels done with each )meaning doing noise cancel on Equinox 800 always went to a non conflicted channel, with Nox audio quiet. Etrac audio though after doing Nox noise cancel not always quiet. So Nox runners and Etrac runners may find each other doing mulitple noise cancels to find stable operations.
Here are the spot checks.
I geared most to running Equinox in multi frequency.
Channel 1 selected on Etrac
Multi freq using using Nox every detect mode checked with Etrac at channel 1 manually selected. Nox channel -4 unusable.
Etrac channel 2.
Single freq 15khz used on Equinox renders Etrac unusable with Nox in channels 2and 9.
Etrac channel 3 selected.
Equinox multi freq used, channels -1, 0 and 9 make Etrac unusable.
Channel 5 selected on Nox makes it unusable.
Etrac channel 4 selected
Single freq 15 kHz on Nox, channels -7 and 0 makes Etrac unusable, channel 0 makes Nox unusable
Etrac channel 5 selected
Equinox using Multi freq rendered unusable channels -7, 4,5 and 6.
Etrac rendered unusable channels 8 and 9.
Etrac channel 6 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2 and -1 render Nox unusable
Channels -8, -4 and 5 makes Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 7 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox. Channels -8 and -7 render Nox unusable.
Channels 1 and 3 make Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 8 selected
5khz selected on Equinox, channels 6, 7 and 8 render Equinox unusable
Channels 0 and 7 render Etrac unusable
Etrac Channel 9 selected
Multi freq selected on Equinox, channels -6, -3, 3 and 9 rendered Etrac unusable. Channel -3 rendered Equinox unusable.
Etrac channel 10 selected
10khz selected on Equinox, channel -7 rendered Equinox unusable
Channel -6 rendered Etrac unusable.
Etrac channel 11 selected
Multifreq selected on Equinox, channels -2, 2 and 5 render Etrac unusable
Channel 4 rendered Equinox unusable
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Wow that’s some serious tests sir we’ll done and a lot of useful information
Thanks for the info (goes off to look at the bank balance)
You are welcome.
Hope it helps folks out.
Trying to test more today, comparing Gold 1 and Gold 2 modes.
Come up this this here test that’s interesting and may shed light on the power of multi freq using Equinox.
This pic here.
See that little star. I found some time ago with Equinox using stock coil running multi freq in a rough iron site.
Factory default disc used in all detect modes.
Testing as shown in pic. Single freq you can forget about hitting confirmed by magnet nonferrous little star with small loop with this with 6” Nox coil using single freq ALL. Not even a whimper any detect mode. Multi freq gives me good one way tone coming from the right. Gold modes occasionally gives me 2way signal.
I can’t even rotate around scenario using single freq 40 kHz and acquire a signal. Where multi freq ops tags it.
Will post more here today with no bumping.
Another pic.
That’s a big nail and clad nickel in pic.
You see the boards stacked and the rule put in to show estimated height.
Sweeping left to right and vice versa, down the barrel.
I can hear the nickel using 40khz single freq, not mulit freq any detect mode with any setting useable in the field I can find.
Single freq 40khz, could it find you something in a site multi freq won’t?
My testing suggests YES. But remember soil minerals here not in play really.
Folks especially using Nox in milder soil I think should be using occasionally in sites that have produced in the past.
Remember not many other models detector offered run at such a high frequency.
Using 20khz in the test above a NO PASS.
I can even remove a board and try 20 kHz and it is a FAIL.
Another pic.
A nail and clad dime.
All I did was compared Gold 1 and Gold 2 detect modes.
Sweeping above the stacked boards down the nail barrel.
Facctory default disc and sensitivty.
Speed 6 multi frequency used.
Iron biased adjusted.
Iron bias = or greater than 5 = fail both detect modes.
I compared both in detail using iron bias 4, I even lowered sens from default setting of 20 to 16.
I saw no differences here on how each mode performed on this ONE test.
Another pic.
Just a small piece of foil if you can see it. It’s in front of the number 6 on ruler.
Sweeeping above the boards comparing gold 1 and 2 detect modes multi freq.
Again factory disc, iron bias left at 0, speed 6.
Both modes generate a weak signal. I even lowered sens to 14 where I could barely hear.
Both modes sound the same to me here with equivalent settings.
Again just one test. And this foil is just one shape reallly.
And ground mineralization here not figured in here like the real world.
Another pic.
A small 10k ladies ring on edge. No ferrous present.
Test conducted 90 degrees from view in pic with coil,sweeps.
I compared Gold 1 and 2 multi freq.
Run each mode in default disc.
Speed 7
Varied sens, iron bias. Ran as low as sens level 13
I saw no difference in signal obtained comparing the modes.
Btw, signal sounds the same with iron bias at 0 and at max, when sweeping over the top of boards in pic.
Another pic.
Look near dime, a #6 shot out of shotgun shell.
Can’t say exactly what is is made of totally.
Interesting results here.
I did airtest using #6 shot a few days ago.
In the pic as shown(obviously with dime removed), Nox gives nowhere the depth of airtest.
Ground balance using gold modes comes in at 33 and 34depwnding on mode.
I got curious place shot on top of sterile tall cardboard box, then I saw disc the wise close to what I had seen when earlier airtesting.
So, I grab Deus and Hf at 28khz and GB over steps, 77 pops in window. Bobbing coil I get 5dots in window,
So seems the mineral in the steps deemed medium mineralizarion is indeed working on the Nox being able to detect at coil height vs airtest..
Come up this this here test that’s interesting and may shed light on the power of multi freq using Equinox.
This pic here.
See that little star. I found some time ago with Equinox using stock coil running multi freq in a rough iron site.
Factory default disc used in all detect modes.
Testing as shown in pic. Single freq you can forget about hitting confirmed by magnet nonferrous little star with small loop with this with 6” Nox coil using single freq ALL. Not even a whimper any detect mode. Multi freq gives me good one way tone coming from the right. Gold modes occasionally gives me 2way signal.
I can’t even rotate around scenario using single freq 40 kHz and acquire a signal. Where multi freq ops tags it.
Will post more here today with no bumping.
Another pic.
That’s a big nail and clad nickel in pic.
You see the boards stacked and the rule put in to show estimated height.
Sweeping left to right and vice versa, down the barrel.
I can hear the nickel using 40khz single freq, not mulit freq any detect mode with any setting useable in the field I can find.
Single freq 40khz, could it find you something in a site multi freq won’t?
My testing suggests YES. But remember soil minerals here not in play really.
Folks especially using Nox in milder soil I think should be using occasionally in sites that have produced in the past.
Remember not many other models detector offered run at such a high frequency.
Using 20khz in the test above a NO PASS.
I can even remove a board and try 20 kHz and it is a FAIL.
Another pic.
A nail and clad dime.
All I did was compared Gold 1 and Gold 2 detect modes.
Sweeping above the stacked boards down the nail barrel.
Facctory default disc and sensitivty.
Speed 6 multi frequency used.
Iron biased adjusted.
Iron bias = or greater than 5 = fail both detect modes.
I compared both in detail using iron bias 4, I even lowered sens from default setting of 20 to 16.
I saw no differences here on how each mode performed on this ONE test.
Another pic.
Just a small piece of foil if you can see it. It’s in front of the number 6 on ruler.
Sweeeping above the boards comparing gold 1 and 2 detect modes multi freq.
Again factory disc, iron bias left at 0, speed 6.
Both modes generate a weak signal. I even lowered sens to 14 where I could barely hear.
Both modes sound the same to me here with equivalent settings.
Again just one test. And this foil is just one shape reallly.
And ground mineralization here not figured in here like the real world.
Another pic.
A small 10k ladies ring on edge. No ferrous present.
Test conducted 90 degrees from view in pic with coil,sweeps.
I compared Gold 1 and 2 multi freq.
Run each mode in default disc.
Speed 7
Varied sens, iron bias. Ran as low as sens level 13
I saw no difference in signal obtained comparing the modes.
Btw, signal sounds the same with iron bias at 0 and at max, when sweeping over the top of boards in pic.
Another pic.
Look near dime, a #6 shot out of shotgun shell.
Can’t say exactly what is is made of totally.
Interesting results here.
I did airtest using #6 shot a few days ago.
In the pic as shown(obviously with dime removed), Nox gives nowhere the depth of airtest.
Ground balance using gold modes comes in at 33 and 34depwnding on mode.
I got curious place shot on top of sterile tall cardboard box, then I saw disc the wise close to what I had seen when earlier airtesting.
So, I grab Deus and Hf at 28khz and GB over steps, 77 pops in window. Bobbing coil I get 5dots in window,
So seems the mineral in the steps deemed medium mineralizarion is indeed working on the Nox being able to detect at coil height vs airtest..
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A couple pics here.
The pic above there is actually a clad dime in behind the nickel. You’ll have to take my word for it. And the dime is resting on the step, meaning nickel height greater than dime.
Next pic is where I push the boards together before I test.
USing multifreq park and field modes ID presented is 13/14 on sweeps.
Using 5khz single freq I get 24/25 on sweeps, with higher coil height 24 the predominate ID given.
Clad dime swept solo in pic with 5 khz reads 26.
What about the mighty Etrac wearing 6”coil, deep off fast on?
A good signal with 30-31 for conductive number on sweeps.
Another pic. Replace nickel with pull ring. Dime is in behind ring grounded. Will push the boards together and sweep.
Using multi freqs all Park and field modes I get a 14/15 ID in the meter.
Using 5 kHz I get 21/22 ID on near sweeps and even at coil height.
Mighty Etrac gives a hard 25 hard conductive number on sweeps.
Some other combos tested on edge and grounded.
Quarter and nickel.
Etrac not fooled here, gives 48 conductive.
Nox not fooled either using multi freq or 5 kHz.
Quarter sandwiches beteween 2 nickels.
Etrac gives dime ID.
Nox gives dime ID 25/26=using park 2 multi (only one I checked) and 5khz gives quarter ID of 30.
The pic above there is actually a clad dime in behind the nickel. You’ll have to take my word for it. And the dime is resting on the step, meaning nickel height greater than dime.
Next pic is where I push the boards together before I test.
USing multifreq park and field modes ID presented is 13/14 on sweeps.
Using 5khz single freq I get 24/25 on sweeps, with higher coil height 24 the predominate ID given.
Clad dime swept solo in pic with 5 khz reads 26.
What about the mighty Etrac wearing 6”coil, deep off fast on?
A good signal with 30-31 for conductive number on sweeps.
Another pic. Replace nickel with pull ring. Dime is in behind ring grounded. Will push the boards together and sweep.
Using multi freqs all Park and field modes I get a 14/15 ID in the meter.
Using 5 kHz I get 21/22 ID on near sweeps and even at coil height.
Mighty Etrac gives a hard 25 hard conductive number on sweeps.
Some other combos tested on edge and grounded.
Quarter and nickel.
Etrac not fooled here, gives 48 conductive.
Nox not fooled either using multi freq or 5 kHz.
Quarter sandwiches beteween 2 nickels.
Etrac gives dime ID.
Nox gives dime ID 25/26=using park 2 multi (only one I checked) and 5khz gives quarter ID of 30.
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Folks can run their Noxes anyway they desire.
Here’s some good info though I think.
Might limit one’s diggin and put them on gold ring. A good ring they may otherwise walk right by.
See this pic.
Now most folks when they think gold whatever they think higher freqs. It is true higher freqs hit gold better generally, but is also hits other junk, namely foil.
That’s a ladies 10k ring pictured on that foil younsee. Foil is fairly sizeable too.
You hit that scenario with multifreq, oh it hits it alright with ID of 3/4.
I tried park 2 only.
What about 5 kHz?
It hits the scenario and gives a 6 or 7 ID. Closer to actual ID of ring solo 9/10 when swept.
I even went to 5 tones and set my bin to break at 6.
5 and below I sweep and get great high tone.
Use of 10khz here seems to work well here, but in the wild it may put you on some bigger foil odds wise bs 5khz. But you may get more depth with 10khz.
Here’s some good info though I think.
Might limit one’s diggin and put them on gold ring. A good ring they may otherwise walk right by.
See this pic.
Now most folks when they think gold whatever they think higher freqs. It is true higher freqs hit gold better generally, but is also hits other junk, namely foil.
That’s a ladies 10k ring pictured on that foil younsee. Foil is fairly sizeable too.
You hit that scenario with multifreq, oh it hits it alright with ID of 3/4.
I tried park 2 only.
What about 5 kHz?
It hits the scenario and gives a 6 or 7 ID. Closer to actual ID of ring solo 9/10 when swept.
I even went to 5 tones and set my bin to break at 6.
5 and below I sweep and get great high tone.
Use of 10khz here seems to work well here, but in the wild it may put you on some bigger foil odds wise bs 5khz. But you may get more depth with 10khz.
Another pic.
That ball of foil you see, is a balled up 12” by 12” piece of Reynolds foil. Balled up sorta tight, or overly compressed.
The ring in pic a 10k ladies ring.
Comparing the signals on the foil vs the ring.
Park 2multi and 5khz used.
5khz here no help.
Ring and foil sound good.
Multi freq, this is where the action is.
Key is speed up detector.
When you speed up detector foil ID ranges jumps 3-4 numbers on sweeps.
The ring is a lock at 10.
Younslow the Nox down, both ID very similarly as far as ID jumping goes, meaning both don’t jump much at all.
Speed 7,and especially speed 8 shines here. Speeds 5 and 6 no nos.
Another pic.
This piece of foil a 6” by 6” balled up.
Using park 2 multi and comparing to the small 10k ring.
What stands out?
Using 50 tones ring is more monotone sounding. Foils has more notes in the music played. Like a half note on both sides of the main note.
Speed 6 used to listen.
Slow sweep key here to hear better.
That ball of foil you see, is a balled up 12” by 12” piece of Reynolds foil. Balled up sorta tight, or overly compressed.
The ring in pic a 10k ladies ring.
Comparing the signals on the foil vs the ring.
Park 2multi and 5khz used.
5khz here no help.
Ring and foil sound good.
Multi freq, this is where the action is.
Key is speed up detector.
When you speed up detector foil ID ranges jumps 3-4 numbers on sweeps.
The ring is a lock at 10.
Younslow the Nox down, both ID very similarly as far as ID jumping goes, meaning both don’t jump much at all.
Speed 7,and especially speed 8 shines here. Speeds 5 and 6 no nos.
Another pic.
This piece of foil a 6” by 6” balled up.
Using park 2 multi and comparing to the small 10k ring.
What stands out?
Using 50 tones ring is more monotone sounding. Foils has more notes in the music played. Like a half note on both sides of the main note.
Speed 6 used to listen.
Slow sweep key here to hear better.
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I promised I would do some tests comparing beach 1 and 2.
I’ll try to do them this week.
Will involve modern trash, coins and or jewelry. Iron too.
I still really don’t know the actual (from relic hunting ) perspective what is different between gold 1 and gold 2.
I may have to compare on targets in the wild to see the real deal.
Folks should notice a pattern. As far as modern trash goes.
You sweep a targrt and get ID using multi frequency, and then hit it with 5 kHz, and the ID comes up a bit, those kinds of targets would interest me. Even if the ID presented using 5khz wasn’t in higher conductive coin range. And sure those that are in coin range, I might dig too. Beware of bottlecaps though.
Lots of single freq detectors running 13khz -15 kHz, they can’t do what the Nox dan do with Nox’s on board tools.
So there may be some lower ID signals in spots already hunted, and the person running one of the detectors in the freqs range mentioned above, they walked right by thinking foil.
When it’s hot and or dry to do lots of digging say in a park. I would be investigating signals using the the freqs, speed, etc with Nox with small coil.
Depth meter not bad either.
Can work the other way too. Say you get a good signal, not one of those lower single digit ID readings using mulit freq. You switch to 5 kHz and it goes completely bye bye,,,that suggest ferrous masking. That target might be good to dig. Previous hunter may not have heard. Even if the use of 5khz turns a4way in multi into a 2way in 5khz.
I’ll try to do them this week.
Will involve modern trash, coins and or jewelry. Iron too.
I still really don’t know the actual (from relic hunting ) perspective what is different between gold 1 and gold 2.
I may have to compare on targets in the wild to see the real deal.
Folks should notice a pattern. As far as modern trash goes.
You sweep a targrt and get ID using multi frequency, and then hit it with 5 kHz, and the ID comes up a bit, those kinds of targets would interest me. Even if the ID presented using 5khz wasn’t in higher conductive coin range. And sure those that are in coin range, I might dig too. Beware of bottlecaps though.
Lots of single freq detectors running 13khz -15 kHz, they can’t do what the Nox dan do with Nox’s on board tools.
So there may be some lower ID signals in spots already hunted, and the person running one of the detectors in the freqs range mentioned above, they walked right by thinking foil.
When it’s hot and or dry to do lots of digging say in a park. I would be investigating signals using the the freqs, speed, etc with Nox with small coil.
Depth meter not bad either.
Can work the other way too. Say you get a good signal, not one of those lower single digit ID readings using mulit freq. You switch to 5 kHz and it goes completely bye bye,,,that suggest ferrous masking. That target might be good to dig. Previous hunter may not have heard. Even if the use of 5khz turns a4way in multi into a 2way in 5khz.
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