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Old 08-27-2016, 12:24 AM
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Default Lesche digger vs shovel

I currently have a small shovel. I'm wanting opinions on a lesche knife vs a shovel. Does it work well, is it better than a small shovel. I was considering due to size and convenience of carry.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:40 AM
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In parks and playgrounds you want to use the hand digger, because carrying a shovel into public parks etc gives the perception that you're going to tear the place up.

In woods, public property and fields, hands down the shovel is the better tool.

Having said those things, no matter where I use my shovel, I dig cleaner, better plugs, as well as retrieve targets twice as fast.

Both have their place in your arsenal, but you just want to err on the side of caution of busting out a shovel in public parks etc.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:58 AM
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Yeah, listen to Nectar here. I have the 31" samson and love the thing and how easy it gets to deep targets, cuts a great plug, but I'd never take it into a park to dig plugs. Perception is all that really counts, and the perception you get with a 31" samson or any other larger shovel is that you're gonna dig massive holes in the park and mess the whole place up. The Lesche is top notch. I have it and the Whites digger. I like the Whites digger, but the Lesche is still my go to tool, works without question, and pays for itself in the first couple months.

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Old 08-27-2016, 01:20 AM
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I've used a Mini 18 shovel for years and recently went to a 31" Sampson. Both cut neater plugs than a Lesche, plus it's the devil to pierce Texas dirt with a Lesche. I'm not alone here, and that's in various parks and schools too. I'd say it's at least 80-20 shovel use for several of us. It just takes discretion for the locale of the day's hunt. I love my small shovels. Private yards is one place I usually use the Lesche.

I don't mean to imply that 80% of the folks I detect with use shovels, but the ones who do, predominetly use one. If I was in a state where you could saw out a sweet soil plug with a Lesche, I might get me a Model 31 Raptor. They wouldn't hold up for entire digs most days of the year here.
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:08 AM
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Default I use both, but not in parks.

I also have been practicing probing. I glean or look for new or shallow drops. I have a 30" inch lesche relic shovel.

I see so many videos of guys not digging good plugs or using a lesche digger when a screwdriver would work. You have to do what your comfortable with. You pull a shovel out in town and you get the big uninvite quick lol.

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Old 08-27-2016, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin_V3i View post
I've used a Mini 18 shovel for years and recently went to a 31" Sampson. Both cut neater plugs than a Lesche, plus it's the devil to pierce Texas dirt with a Lesche. I'm not alone here, and that's in various parks and schools too. I'd say it's at least 80-20 shovel use for several of us. It just takes discretion for the locale of the day's hunt. I love my small shovels. Private yards is one place I usually use the Lesche.

I don't mean to imply that 80% of the folks I detect with use shovels, but the ones who do, predominetly use one. If I was in a state where you could saw out a sweet soil plug with a Lesche, I might get me a Model 31 Raptor. They wouldn't hold up for entire digs most days of the year here.
We have pretty sweet dirt here in Indiana so a full Lesche blade worth of dirt is usually not an issue. (at least not in the spots I hunt). Usually there isn't any need to use much more than that. I use the samson to minimize the amount of bending, but usually only on private property. The samson cuts a nice plug, but with as much practice as I have with the Lesche, I can cut almost as nice a plug as the samson without the attention. I do use the 31" samson in the urban parks as it is a deterrent to the "undesirables". Not many people want to mess with the crazy dude in the park with the sharp looking serrated shovel...

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In parks even small shovels convey a bad image, I have a Sampson 31" but only use it sparingly in certain sites.
In public parks in bad soil, (hard, dry, clay filled), the regular Lesche does well.
I areas with better black dirt and especially going deep the Predator Raptor hand digger will get more dirt out a bit faster.

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