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Old 10-08-2017, 09:44 AM
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Default Weird item, made of Lead.. cover? I have no idea where to start. Found in area with 1700's items.

I found this strange item on a beach in Massachusetts. In this location I have found lots of musket balls of many calibers, powder flask parts, shoe buckles and coins dated from the 1700's. This mystery item is made of lead and has traces of iron rust on the inside and it is curved in shape so it looks like it was used to cover something that was iron at one time. Possibly a barrel? Any ideas?
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:55 AM
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Curious piece you found, no clue what it is, it doesn't appear the rivots(if that's what they are?) go all the way through, hard to tell from the pics, so something may of fastened over the top of it instead of it being a cover, what that was is anyones guess. Hopefully someone can ID it for you.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:27 AM
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yeah I thought they were rivets but they don't go through so this might be the inner casting of something?
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Old 10-10-2017, 12:20 AM
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I'm thinking it resembles a shovel collar.

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Old 10-10-2017, 09:05 AM
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I think it's some kind of lead pipe patch or smaller pipe connection.

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Old 10-10-2017, 09:09 AM
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It looks like half of a poured bearing ( Babbit ) ?
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Old 10-10-2017, 11:30 AM
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It looks like half of a poured bearing ( Babbit ) ?
Yea, that's a good call too. Possibly the hole is for a lube port. The outside lugs would lock it in place. Real good call.

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Old 10-11-2017, 08:39 PM
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Don't forget the whole thing is lead and its soft.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogfisch View post
Don't forget the whole thing is lead and its soft.
Which is consistent with a poured bearing.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:22 AM
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Ahhh ok yes, I just looked up what a poured bearing is. Your right, it has to be that. Good call. Any ideas from what? You have an idea how old? possibly a wagon wheel bearing? The area where this was found to my knowledge never had an automobile on it. It was underwater by 1910.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogfisch View post
Ahhh ok yes, I just looked up what a poured bearing is. Your right, it has to be that. Good call. Any ideas from what? You have an idea how old? possibly a wagon wheel bearing? The area where this was found to my knowledge never had an automobile on it. It was underwater by 1910.
I believe traditional wagon wheels had wooden bearings. Being on a beach, my guess would be from a boat's propeller shaft or a marine engine. That or it was refuse from elsewhere that got dumped.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:41 AM
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you learn so much stuff on this forum, way outside of metal detecting. Never even heard of a "poured bearing"
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogfisch View post
Ahhh ok yes, I just looked up what a poured bearing is. Your right, it has to be that. Good call. Any ideas from what? You have an idea how old? possibly a wagon wheel bearing? The area where this was found to my knowledge never had an automobile on it. It was underwater by 1910.
My guess would be part off a saw mill. By 1910 logging should of been pretty well done in your area ?
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:28 AM
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No logging that in aware of but there was whale oil processed on the location.


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