Help date glass and iron lock

Country Dirt Kid · Apr 9, 2016

I found this stuff on an old farm around some concrete that was made out of cement and pebbles. The glass has lots of large bubbles and a thick, high standing casting line. A few yards away I detected this iron lock. Its looks like the kind of lock that used a large iron key. There is writing on the lock but I cant read it. Does anyone know the age of these things? Thanks

allank · Apr 9, 2016

They still make bottle stoppers like thatrim locks are from the early 1800s and were still being made into the mid 1900s

Country Dirt Kid · Apr 9, 2016

Thank you. You informed me that it is called a rim lock and that specific search term allowed me to find the exact lock in new condition. I have the patent date of this lock. Does anyone know where and how I can look it up?

worm12ga · Apr 9, 2016

The patent office website can give you the year of the patent, but that will not give you a year of manufacture. That style of lock was used for many years, and could have been deposited at any point. I actually took a few to the scrap yard a year or two ago.

The bottle stopper is more interesting.

allank · Apr 9, 2016

Bank Fisher said:
Thank you. You informed me that it is called a rim lock and that specific search term allowed me to find the exact lock in new condition. I have the patent date of this lock. Does anyone know where and how I can look it up?

https://patents.google.com/

Dsm_mechva · Apr 9, 2016

I would look into Russell and Erwin Manufacturing Company

In business 1846-1902

Bayoutalker · Apr 9, 2016

I actually have a brand new one similar to that still in the box. It was bought to replace one on my grandmother's house years ago but they replaced the whole door instead.

Cliff

Country Dirt Kid · Apr 9, 2016

Thanks for the help all, It sucks when you find something that could be 1860 or 2002 :laughing:

Bayoutalker · Apr 9, 2016

http://robinsonsantiques.com/door-lock-sets/rim-locks/rim-locks-13-16.htm

Scroll down to the 4th item on this page.

Cliff

Dsm_mechva · Apr 9, 2016

1869 or after but before 1902

Not 2002
You can still get them but they are recovered from old homes and etc not brand new.

allank · Apr 10, 2016

They actually are reproducing them now , about $75 a piece

Country Dirt Kid · Apr 10, 2016

I'm willing to let this one go for 69.99

worm12ga · Apr 10, 2016

allank said:
They actually are reproducing them now , about $75 a piece

That is a ridiculous amount to pay. I've tossed dozens in the scrap over the years, still have half a dozen new in the box out in the 'lock and doorknob' drawer.

allank · Apr 10, 2016

worm12ga said:
That is a ridiculous amount to pay. I've tossed dozens in the scrap over the years, still have half a dozen new in the box out in the 'lock and doorknob' drawer.

I saved them all myself , did a job for people with too much money and not enough brains :grin:

worm12ga · Apr 10, 2016

allank said:
I saved them all myself , did a job for people with too much money and not enough brains

I probably should have saved more. It's just such a niche item these days, and a slightly rusty used one is a hard sell. I kept all the clean ones.

worm12ga · Apr 10, 2016

I even kept one or two from a place I was renting (shhh). I knew the landlord was replacing the doors after I moved out, so why not?

joee5 · Apr 10, 2016

worm12ga said:
That is a ridiculous amount to pay. I've tossed dozens in the scrap over the years, still have half a dozen new in the box out in the 'lock and doorknob' drawer.

Agreed

Bayoutalker · Apr 10, 2016

Dsm_mechva said:
1869 or after but before 1902

Not 2002
You can still get them but they are recovered from old homes and etc not brand new.

I better keep the one I have for an investment as it is new in box and not a repro. They date later than 1902 as the house the old lock was on was not built until 1929 and the one I have was bought in the 60's.

Cliff

worm12ga · Apr 10, 2016

Bayoutalker said:
I better keep the one I have for an investment as it is new in box and not a repro. They date later than 1902 as the house the old lock was on was not built until 1929 and the one I have was bought in the 60's.

Cliff

The new ones I have are also 60's or maybe early 70's vintage.

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