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Old 01-14-2017, 11:17 PM
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What I hate about those devices that make swinging a heavy detector easier is that you're tethered to the detector. Why not devise one that not tethered to the detector, but attaches to your wrist or hand instead?

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Old 01-14-2017, 11:21 PM
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The whole purpose of those devices it is distribute the weight across your body instead of having the weight constantly being on your shoulder, elbow, wrist and hand.

Attaching it to your hand or wrist would be counter productive and not do anything. You would just be effectively tethered to your detector without any benefit.

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Old 01-14-2017, 11:27 PM
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I have a Detector Pro sling, it has a quick release clip. It takes a lot of the weight pulling down off my shoulder, but only relieves some of the horizontal stress. Still, I can detect MUCH longer.

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Old 01-15-2017, 08:42 PM
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The whole purpose of those devices it is distribute the weight across your body instead of having the weight constantly being on your shoulder, elbow, wrist and hand.

Attaching it to your hand or wrist would be counter productive and not do anything. You would just be effectively tethered to your detector without any benefit.
It would work the same way, except the sling would be attached to your hand and/or wrist rather than to the detector. Your hand would grip the handle of the detector and the sling would support your arm, wrist and shoulder.

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It would work the same way, except the sling would be attached to your hand and/or wrist rather than to the detector. Your hand would grip the handle of the detector and the sling would support your arm, wrist and shoulder.

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It would work the same way, except the sling would be attached to your hand and/or wrist rather than to the detector. Your hand would grip the handle of the detector and the sling would support your arm, wrist and shoulder.

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Just a tip, most of you may have known this but it took me several years to put two and two together. First couple years I thought the cuff strap was worthless, then I saw the importance of its existence. But my latest revelation went back to my archery days. A good Archer will have his riser hand completely open, in other words, he will not wrap his hand around the grip, since doing so creates torque. The last couple years I use the cuff strap and just curl my fingers around the back side of the grip, simply to guide the coil so to speak. My thumb is completely disengaged from the grip. This puts the weight and strain of the detector close to my elbow, which I feel reduces fatigue.

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Just a tip, most of you may have known this but it took me several years to put two and two together. First couple years I thought the cuff strap was worthless, then I saw the importance of its existence. But my latest revelation went back to my archery days. A good Archer will have his riser hand completely open, in other words, he will not wrap his hand around the grip, since doing so creates torque. The last couple years I use the cuff strap and just curl my fingers around the back side of the grip, simply to guide the coil so to speak. My thumb is completely disengaged from the grip. This puts the weight and strain of the detector close to my elbow, which I feel reduces fatigue.
Yep, how I do it as well...
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It would work the same way, except the sling would be attached to your hand and/or wrist rather than to the detector. Your hand would grip the handle of the detector and the sling would support your arm, wrist and shoulder.

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I would consider it more dangerous to have your hand tethered in a case where you have to defend yourself whether it be an animal or another human. All a person would need to do is get hold of the strap to control your arm and hand.

Besides, the strap is meant to attach to the center of mass of your detector. Your hand is above the center of mass. The strap would create a pivot point that is above and behind the center of mass. This would throw off the balance and make swinging harder, not easier.

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Just a tip, most of you may have known this but it took me several years to put two and two together. First couple years I thought the cuff strap was worthless, then I saw the importance of its existence. But my latest revelation went back to my archery days. A good Archer will have his riser hand completely open, in other words, he will not wrap his hand around the grip, since doing so creates torque. The last couple years I use the cuff strap and just curl my fingers around the back side of the grip, simply to guide the coil so to speak. My thumb is completely disengaged from the grip. This puts the weight and strain of the detector close to my elbow, which I feel reduces fatigue.
I haven't used the cuff straps. Is that why my thumb gets so sore, from trying to hold instead of just guide?
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I haven't used the cuff straps. Is that why my thumb gets so sore, from trying to hold instead of just guide?
sure is. If the back of the detector isn't hanging off your forearm you need to balance it with your wrist. I may not reduce all your fatigue but it will help.

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I also relax my grip and rest the detector on the ground with every retrieval-I bend over and pop the coins- which gives me 10-30 seconds or more to completely relax. Makes a lot of difference. I also slightly sway instead of totally using my forearm to sweep. In the old days we had an extension arm bolted on the stem up from the coil that extended to your free arm. The detector just rested in your swing arm while you guided the sweep with the other. Really comfortable on the bulky, unbalanced detectors we had. I tried it on today's detectors and was really comfortable. The arm was hinged, so you just folded the arm against the detector on retrieval.
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I haven't used the cuff straps. Is that why my thumb gets so sore, from trying to hold instead of just guide?
Your thumb gets sore because you are overworking one or more of your forearm muscles. Don't grip as hard and ever so often open and close your hand. It is the constant grip on the detector that got my my tennis elbow.

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Your thumb gets sore because you are overworking one or more of your forearm muscles. Don't grip as hard and ever so often open and close your hand. It is the constant grip on the detector that got my my tennis elbow.
Thanks. I'm going to try the cuff strap without using the thumb. I swing hard and fast and it's noticable soreness for a few days after at the base of my thumb. Probably swinging too fast, good idea on just using the weight to pendulum and guiding with fingers.
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Thanks. I'm going to try the cuff strap without using the thumb. I swing hard and fast and it's noticable soreness for a few days after at the base of my thumb. Probably swinging too fast, good idea on just using the weight to pendulum and guiding with fingers.
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