MuddyMo said:
Sorry Monte but I believe you’re wrong. I too thought they were the same. I put the 6” on the mohave to compare depth to the compadre. I noticed the weight difference when swinging them. I disconnected the coils from the lower rods and carefully put them on a digital scale so the cords weren’t making a difference. There was a big significant difference in weight.
Yes I know they use the same 5 pin coils.
Yes I know the difference and own both 4 and 5 pin machines
Everyone has a different idea of what a waste of money is. Some think owning a metal detector is a waste let alone owning more than one. I want, not need, the lightest coils out there.
Well, let me simply add this to what I already said. The Compadre uses the same 5-pin coils. On inquiries I had in the past, and directly from Tesoro, they are the same coils but without a connector, just hard-wired.
Now I will add this regarding the Compadre you have and weighed that specific search coil, and Tesoro's 6" Concentric coils in general:
1.. It's probable that your Compadre has the normal build design of the general 6" Concentric coils, but the othe4r coil you compared was weightier for a good reason. I know that when they were first released I was a Tesoro Dealer at the time and it seemed to me the thin 6" coil was as ideal as I expected.
2.. While wire used and windings made might be a bit different between the 4-Pin and 5-Pin 6" coils, it doesn't seem like it would be significant enough to justify the heavier 4-Pin 6" coils I have had for the Vaquero's, Tejón's and other 'HOT' series models.
I added a couple of them to my personal arsenal this past two years and got their 4-Pin 6" Concentric coils, but was annoyed that they were as heavy as they were compared with my trusted Bandido II µMAX and Silver Sabre µMAX models. I didn't enjoy their weighty feel and handling so I parted with all of those models,
and coils, to just enjoy the comfort and performance of the three Tesoro's I rely on.
I don't believe I am 'wrong,' but I do believe the build design by Tesoro had some changes in various production runs of their 6" coils to account for a significant difference in weight. Oh, one other thought about the heavier 6" Concentric coil you weighed.
Early on, when they first introduced a 6" Concentric coil, it wasn't offered for the land-based models but was made for one of their waterproof/beach models. When I handled that detector I commented that I would really like to have that coil ...
in a lighter weight ... for my Bandido's and a Pantera I had at the time.
It was designed as a heavier coil to eliminate buoyancy when water hunting. I know a fellow who had such a coil, with connector, and it was definitely a heavier and unfriendly weight to have on the end of a Bandido or Silver Sabre model. I wonder if, per chance, you ended up with such a specimen?
I know that I currently have 3 of the 6" coils and use them exclusively on my Tesoro's, and in the past year-and-a-half I have acquired at least 5, possibly 6 or 7, of the 6" coils for Bandido and Silver Sabre models for others and all of them had the same lighter weight and comfortable feel.
Maybe your other coil was the one with an issue.
Monte
