Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA
Oh yes, I forget. You have mastered the ability to tell gold apart from aluminum, to the extent that the ratios are not that punishing. So your net result pix would not look like the OP's here. Hence all he, or anyone has to do, is not turn up their disc, but rather: Learn the subtle tonal differences between gold and aluminum. Right ? I remember that topic/threads.
Anyone I have EVER had make this claim, .... when we actually arrive at the junky park in question .... their claims go strangely silent. I would LOVE to see the person show this supposed skill as telling aluminum apart from gold (even if only on a 1 to 25 or 1 to 50 ratio). But alas, we have had this conversation before.
If my advice is "short-sighted"(because the newbie risks missing a gold ring) well so too have I seen newbies follow the "dig everything till your arms fall off advice", only to see them get disgusted and hang the machine in the closet. Or.... they have 100 holes in a field, all within 8" or a ft. of each other, and .... some passing gardener or cop shuts them down. Ie.: if you've dug 100 holes, versus 15 holes, which do you think is less conspicuous ? Not saying that "a person shouldn't do lot of digging" or that "a person should expect zero junk" or "a person should dig few holes", but ... just saying ... I can think of places where you would end up with a difficulty leaving zero trace, when effectively strip-mining small areas.
And also don't forget: There are vast differences in "turf" and definitions of "blighted". I too can think of turf where I might indeed angle for gold (putting up with whatever aluminum it requires). But I can think of junky parks where ... forgive me, ... it would be a recipe for frustration.
Same garbage you always spew....just keep going back to where you say the exact same thing over and over and over.
Time to pull out that old chestnut about the park you buddies hunted and kept meticulous numbers of everything you found layer after layer and when you were done you declared none of it was worth it.
Your opinion about what sites to hunt, what amounts are correct to dig, what numbers of treasure targets we should find to be happy and make it worth the effort and how exactly everyone should do this hobby to enjoy it is all everyone needs or wants to know...right?
Because you are the Pope of metal detecting.
I never said I "knew" how to tell gold from aluminum, or foil or anything else, you never read that part every time I have said it or it never registers on you because you are so sure you are just so right about everything that you just ignore everything else.
I have said I wade into sites with huge amounts of trash and dig the solid signals since every one of my gold targets came in that way so far.
I avoid digging 80% of the trash, I never dig till my arms fall off, I have a fantastic time doing it and from time to time I find gold doing it that way.
I have found a lot of gold doing it that way.
But you never got that, never understood that, don't have the ability to understand that and never will because you are so ridiculously narrow minded to believe your way is the only way that you will never understand it or even seeing my statements for what they really said.
"Go to the beach to find gold...only
Don't waste your time digging in trashy parks...ever
Anyone that even tries is a hero
The only way to find gold in the turf is to dig it all"
Have you taught your parrot to say all these dumb things, probably easy because you say them over and over and have for years and I think you really do believe that everyone has access to beaches, believes digging in trashy parks is a waste of time for everybody that picks up a detector and any anyone who actually has fun doing it is stupid.
I don't really care how you do it, you have mad skills and are good at what you do and successful.
For the most part your advice is logical and sound but when you tell newbies not to waste their time, not even to try to do this hobby in a way that you wouldn't enjoy so you know they wouldn't either you cross a line.
You are not the Pope, God or anyone else that has the right to discourage anyone from doing this hobby anyway they choose to do it...even if you don't see the sense or logic in doing it that way.
If someone goes into a site and digs to their arms fall of and don't like it they can figure that out quickly for themselves without your help.
If they want to go in to that same site and not dig everything like I do you can't know what they will find, how much fun they will still have even though you couldn't and might consider that a great way to do this hobby like I do...or not.
It is not up to either of us to decide for anybody else how to do this...any of it.
Like I said for the most part you know what your talking about but when it comes to hunting in trashy sites and still have fun doing it you don't have a clue and never will.
You have no skills to understand how to do it, set ridiculously illogical goals on what will or will not make a hunter successful if anyone tries and definitely don't have the patience either so for you the best thing is just stay away and do other things.
I won't stay away, I will do this always because I get great pleasure from doing it this way in sites exactly like that, I will find what I find including some great things from time to time and I will encourage others to try it to see if they might enjoy it too.
Many have...and do.
If they find it's not their cup of tea that is just fine and dandy.
Every time you try to discourage another newbie from doing this hobby in any way because you think it's wrong I will be there.
Claims go strangely silent...I think not because what you think you hear me claim or have ever claimed has never been true but when you think you are right you can't seem to hear or understand anything else but your own opinion.
You read words but they change when they enter your head and then you go off on what you think you read.
This has been going on for years.
Man you really hate when people don't agree with you.
In your case the emperor has no clothes...he just doesn't know it and I can see now he never will.