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Old 10-05-2018, 12:15 PM
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:12 PM
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Cost close to the CTX 3030 and only 30 positive target ID segments? I don't care for that concept but who knows.

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Old 10-05-2018, 02:13 PM
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[QUOTE=Detector;3012502]Cost close to the CTX 3030 and only 30 positive target ID segments? I don't care for that concept but who knows.[/QUOTE

Might be a good machine tho
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:15 PM
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I do like the idea of "not quite VLF & not quite PI".

You know me, I'm a lazy hunter. I want to know what it is before I recover it LOL. 30 ID segments would be about like the AT Pro as far as target ID accuracy. But hey the AT Pro was my favorite for quite some time.

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Old 10-05-2018, 02:36 PM
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I do like the idea of "not quite VLF & not quite PI".

You know me, I'm a lazy hunter. I want to know what it is before I recover it LOL. 30 ID segments would be about like the AT Pro as far as target ID accuracy. But hey the AT Pro was my favorite for quite some time.
It doesnt sound like its meant for park hunting. Its obviously purpose-designed for surf hunting where you really dont care about TID, its a dig/no-dig situation.

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Old 10-05-2018, 03:06 PM
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Send me one!..I'll give it a lash this Winter!...especially liked the 'hydrodynamic coil design' mention...theres room to work with here, and I will work it!

..Will the thing hit lets say a 12gr 10k or 14k gold 6mm Figaro style chain in the black sand at six? ...if not I aint interested...If so I am! The money is in the missed chains!....Not a one of us or our gear will ever miss a ring...We are so tightly dialed in....Its the chains we need to hear to make the Season!

Little 2gr 10k rings at 12" wont do it! Else a guy might as well be slamming totlot clad with a Harbor Freight or Tractor Supply introductory rig .....A water gold hunter guy needs to be hitting Gold chains....Can this new rig hit Gold chains I axe you?

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Old 10-05-2018, 03:39 PM
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not good in a carpet of nails. That rules out a good chunk of CT beaches.

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Old 10-05-2018, 04:23 PM
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Can it distinguish precious metals? Gold, platinum and palladium if not it's just like every other detector on the market a silver sniffer.
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Old 10-05-2018, 04:46 PM
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At the very least it is very interesting and fun to see new detectors coming to market, and developers trying different things.

I felt like there was a bit of a lull there where we saw mostly dirt hunting machines coming to market (I guess to ride the wave of interest built off shows like diggers). Now we've got the Equinox that kinda satisfies everyone, possibly this new machine for water guys and maybe, possibly, conceivably, potentially....the Fisher Manta whooozeewhatsit as well

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Old 10-05-2018, 06:11 PM
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Everyone who water hunts is looking for that EDGE. I switch up machines if i know beaches are being pounded by a certain detector. Maybe its like changing my lucky underwear...... or wishful thinking my luck will improve.

So now i have the Nox.... along with every other machine for water hunting that alledeged to be the next best thing....... and to be honest IN the salt water they havent been. We all complained about the narrow digit window of the Nox...... we all know what a PI is capable of..... so ill have to see this thing in action. It would be nice to know ..... which is the better machine coming and spend my dime once.

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Old 10-06-2018, 09:45 AM
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Link above updated with info.

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> * Right now...….. at minimum...…. a one-year warra
> nty. (Possibly more).
>
> * No...…. I'm not talking about the Manta.
>
> * One battery is too much? I'm not sure I understa
> nd. ---- Average Batt life is about 30-hours.
>
> * Not good for tiny gold.
>
> * Unit will come with a pigtail headphone jack ada
> pter...… for 1/8" stereo jack..... so you can use
> whatever headphones you have in your inventory. Bu
> t..... you can also purchase a custom-built headph
> one that is specific to this detector......and is
> waterproof. It is not going to be included in the
> package...… so as to keep costs down.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
> and most people are exceptionally 'choice selectiv
> e' when it comes to headphones.
>
> * You will need a custom built unit for Culpepper
> dirt. (This might change).
>
> Has anyone ever looked up IP-68 spec's? It's kind
> of interesting. 1.5 Meters deep ….for 30-Minutes.
> That's all!




NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> A few more data-points to share:
>
> * Another one of the quirks is: Coil sweep speed.
> This unit is more sensitive to horizontal velocity
> . Too slow.....and you lose depth. Too fast.....an
> d you lose depth. And this is one of the reasons '
> why' this unit is targeting 'seasoned' detectorist
> s. On a subconscious level...….a seasoned detector
> ist will automatically/subconsciously 'find the sw
> eet-spot' without any effort. This usually happens
> on the first (fairly deep) target. You will find t
> hat a medium/medium-slow sweep-speed is pinnacle.
> Then your brain will be subconsciously auto-calibr
> ated to this speed. No effort required.
> Remember; this unit is 'different'.
> Medium sweep-speed is a very 'vague' term. Differe
> ntly interpretive. But...… once again; I have zero
> concern for seasoned detectorists.
>
> * (audio) Mixed Mode. This mode is iron content an
> d non-ferrous content melded/merged together...…..
> audibly...….. in stereo.
>
> * Mfr claims "not waterproof". (I beg to differ).
>
> * A separate "Black Sand" selectable Mode.
>
> * Yes. Battery is Li-ion 26650 (Pimento.... you ea
> sily passed my test with A+! ,,, I tested......an
> d wanted to know...… if the public can 'easily' fi
> gure things out. Next test: Can seasoned detectori
> sts figure things out...… with little effort).
>
> * I hope to see the owners manual pdf uploaded/pos
> ted. Before or after product rollout. More targeti
> ng: "before".
>
> * ((( I have to be careful with this one: ))). Sel
> ectable Freq's: 6.4-Khz, 9-Khz, 12-Khz and 18-Khz.
> But. Be careful. Do not assume VLF. Do not assume
> Single Freq. ,,, It's a bit different.
>
> I think I can share this now. I have head-to-head
> tested this unit in the wet-salt. Compared to Exca
> l/CZ/Sov…(first-hand)…… this unit is deeper on rin
> gs & coins...… including Nickels. No...… it is not
> a tiny gold jewelry hunter. Yes.,.,.,.,.,., we're
> working on that; but/yet..... that may be 1 or 2 y
> ears down the pike.
>
> * Lower carbon fiber shaft can be extended to a fa
> irly good length...… for tall folks.
>
> * Yes...… 'should' be able to ship internationally
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Old 10-06-2018, 01:12 PM
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this is the detector i mentioned a while back it was incredible in wet black sand and i think very good on small gold i hit a tiny pendant pretty deep while using it,my multi freq detector would not of hit it
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NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Just a short note...… the Culpeper 'specific softw
> are' is already written. BUT...… most folks don't
> live in this region; so..... most people don't nee
> d this software. There should not be a 'charge' fo
> r this Culpeper software change.
>
> Another note; If you are a fairly seasoned detecto
> rist...… the operating procedures will be very eas
> y. If you are a newbie to the hobby; you will not
> understand it's functions/operating-parameters...…
> and will not like the hobby.
>
> Yes...… I will provide a pdf digital link to the o
> wners manual.... once complete.

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Old 11-05-2018, 10:17 AM
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I have my doubts.. if they were making these and refining them for 18 years, surely they would've released a model or 2 already.
Time will tell I guess. Wonder if he's talking about sub gram sized nuggets as 'small gold'

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Old 11-06-2018, 03:58 PM
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I am amazed at the responses of people with a total absence of facts or knowledge. This may not make every other detector obsolete, but it IS a unique development in overcoming a problem that has created a significant challenge to detecting in salt and high mineralization. It promises to allow the best experience in saltwater detecting (my assertion not necessarily theirs). It is a first unit to be offered (soon) with this tech. Will it be improved upon? Certainly. Does it work? Yup! Is it for everyone? Nope. Do I know what I am talking about? Yup! I first met the man and his detector a year ago. My CTX and Excal were not able to match it's performance on my home beach. I've had about 5 hours face time with him in the last month. I've had several hours with the detector in hand hunting the beach. I have hunted this beach many times a week for 7 years. I have used PIs, and vlfs of nearly every type on this beach. I have no doubt that this is the next step in a specific direction in detector tech.
I think when people see how this is done it will spawn further refining. Look at how Minelab has evolved it's multi-frequency lines and produced the Equinox 800/600 of today (while the Excalibur line is little changed - 3 basic iterations?). Change is inevitable. It's always mixed, some good, some not so much. I say this is good, but time will be the judge. It's fine to be a skeptic, trust me I am one. I am still haunted by the memory of working computer sales in the 80s and saying "You don't need to upgrade that 300 baud modem, the internet will NEVER be that big a deal..."

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Lots of opinions - not all equally supported by experience or data.

PT - you hang in there. Clearly this new machine has brought something new to - at least - the beach. As it becomes a product, we shall all have a chance to compare it to the alternatives.

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Yes, Rick, several users and many locations needed to get a real comprehensive idea of just how much the features will help us see more finds. It's early in the game, but I really see great potential. I have been trusted with a demo unit as was my hunting buddy. We have only been instructed to speak truthfully our thoughts- no obligation. A quick trip to the hunted out park I've been plundering with my Equinox, resulted in more bullets and junk jewelry than with the 'nox. Of course one hunt is not very meaningful, but it does say it will hunt in dirt too.

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NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> LET'S TRY THIS. . . . . SINCE THE LINK IS NOT OPEN
> ING UP FOR ANYONE:
>
> Technical Specifications
> MDT 8000
> Technology : Mixed Domain
> (Patent Pending)
> Operating Frequency : 6.4kHz/9kHz/12kHz/18kH
> z
> Ground Balance : Manual / Fast Auto
> Tracking : Yes
> Black Sand Mode : Yes
> Salt Mode : Yes
> Salinity Balance : Manual
> Salinity Level : 0 to 50
> Target Identification : Ferrous -30 to -1
> / Non-ferrous 0 to 30
> Sensitivity : 1 to 9
> Threshold Level : -9 to 0
> Target Volume : 1 to 15
> Target Tones : 4
> Tone Break : Ferrous/ Non
> -ferrous with adjustable non-ferrous notch filter
> Audio Modes : All Metal / Dis
> crimination / Mix
> Audio Output : Speaker / Headp
> hones
> Display : 128X64 G
> raphic LCD
> LCD Backlight : Yes
> Battery : 26650 R
> echargeable Lithium-ion battery (3.7V, 5000mAh)
> Battery Life : Up to 18h@6
> .4kHz/24h@9kHz/30h@12kHz/36h@18kHz
> Operating Temperature :-10C to +50C (+14F to +12
> 2F)
> Search Coil : Tarsacci MD
> T 11X9 DD
> Shaft : Telesc
> opic 3K carbon fiber with molded 3K carbon fiber “
> S” rod and armrest
> Length : 965cm t
> o 1346cm (38” to 53”)
> Weight : 1280g (2.
> 82lb) including the battery

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> And let me try to answer a few additional question
> s:
>
> 1. It's sweep-speed is a normal sweep-speed; yet,
> slightly slower is best.
> 2. To audibly 'feel' a targets shape/size is very
> similar to the older analog detectors...… not a 'd
> igitized' generic beep.
> 3. This unit is exceptionally good on a U.S. 3-Cen
> t silver Trime…… which is a very small/thin silver
> coin.
> 4. Its response to adjacent targets is very simila
> r to a Sovereign or CZ.
> 5. This unit is not designed for carpets of nails.
> 6. Some iron nails 'can' false on this unit (just
> like most other units); yet, can be easily discern
> ed.
> 7. Mineralization..... and ID in mineralization is
> where this unit shines. This is to include wet-sal
> t OR mineralization. And.... wet-salt AND minerali
> zation.
>
> I'm still 'frustrated' with the vendors...… and th
> eir 'promised' dates. We're waiting on components/
> pieces for the underwater headphones. Our philosop
> hy is about to shift to: Forget about the underwat
> er headphones. Let the user use their already-exis
> ting underwater headphones. Provide the user with
> whatever phone-jack they need.... for their specif
> ic type of underwater headphone(s). We'll catch up
> with our own underwater headphones..... whenever t
> he vendors fulfill their 'promise'.

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