Nope... not a archie, not a want a be archie, just a plain old carpenter. What my agenda is that I am a baseball coach on anyone of these fields that you or others like you think you have the "right" to start popping plugs on. I DO NOT MD IN ANY AREA I HAVE NOT ASKED. I hardly ever hear no. Then again, I don't go to areas that I feel the need to go ninja for some dropped pocket change or in hopes of someone losing their wedding band while having a picnic.
I can tell you right now for certain....If I EVER saw someone pop a plug on my towns baseball field that I spend countless hours of MY time, and pay the taxes I do, vol. for Rec. Committe meeting to make sure the money is being used properly to take care of THE BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, AND SOCCER fields. Notice how they are not called METEL DETECTING fields??? I would be at every monthly town meeting making sure that there was, from that point on a sign up that clearly stated "No metel detecting" (I wouldn't want to confuse anyone with a "no digging policy" Like certain members have posted about skating around the wording). Where the rest of the selectmen decide to go from there, is up to them, but hey who knows maybe they'd make sure a sign went up everywhere on town property. So don't give me your song and dance about asking gets property shut down. For instance, if someone came to me while I was raking the field, and asked "can I detect there". I would tell them I'd rather they not, but to talk to the rec director. At that point we would engage in a conversation about MDing. If said person is not a Richard Cranium, I would invite them to hunt with me on the 1000's of acres I have permission on due to ASKING PERMISSION AND BEING GIVEN IT.
How do you have the "right" to go to another town that you don't even pay taxes in and MD on that field? Tell me it doesn't happen. Everyone that does it thinks they have the "right" to do so. What gives you that "right"? Do you have kids in a program? Do you vol. any time in your community? Were you such a bad athlete as a kid you just don't care about sports, so those that do, and maintain an area for them to be conducted on, NOT be upset with your self entitlement?
Again, when it comes to "rights" read my post about "rights" A couple posts back in reference to the schools and ball fields being better. How is your way any different.
Where to start? My apologies to the rest of the forum...it's going to be a long one. OK, here's my first thought on your post:
Nope... not a archie, not a want a be archie, just a plain old carpenter. What my agenda is that I am a baseball coach on anyone of these fields that you or others like you think you have the "right" to start popping plugs on. I DO NOT MD IN ANY AREA I HAVE NOT ASKED. I hardly ever hear no. Then again, I don't go to areas that I feel the need to go ninja for some dropped pocket change or in hopes of someone losing their wedding band while having a picnic.
Response 1: Thank you for clearing that up with a direct answer...and I do respect direct answers. So, your not an "archie", but your a 'enforcer' type that's willing to interfere with another MDer who is out legally MDing by asking them to not dare use their lesche on your field ... is that a fair statement? In my neck of the woods, we call that sticking your nose in somebody else's business, even to the extent of 'being a bully'. Please understand, I think you have every right to seek a MD ban anywhere you would want to seek a MD ban. But, I do think you're letting your volunteering to groom the ballpark and with being a coach interfere with logic. BTW, NINJA has nothing to do with this, so quit with the Ninja subterfuge. So, now we have determined that your real agenda is to get ballfields banned to MDers should they ever dare to put a lesche in the ground anywhere you don't want them to do this.
So don't give me your song and dance about asking gets property shut down. For instance, if someone came to me while I was raking the field, and asked "can I detect there". I would tell them I'd rather they not, but to talk to the rec director. At that point we would engage in a conversation about MDing. If said person is not a Richard Cranium, I would invite them to hunt with me on the 1000's of acres I have permission on due to ASKING PERMISSION AND BEING GIVEN IT.
Response 2:
I don't dance too well and being "Richard Cranium" doesn't matter, Richard Cranium, REALLY
. What you would tell them ("I'd rather they not, but to talk to the rec director") overreaches your rights. You have no legal rights to interfere with anyone who is legally MDing, or conducting any legal activity on PUBLIC PROPERTY. You certainly have the right to tell them you'd rather they not, and you can ask them
if they would first check with the rec. director, but to give the directive to "...talk to the rec director is inappropriate. For me, I'd just tell you to 'buzz off'. Of course, you could at that point go get the parks director, or a leo, mayor, or whoever...WHATEVER.
How do you have the "right" to go to another town that you don't even pay taxes in and MD on that field? Tell me it doesn't happen. Everyone that does it thinks they have the "right" to do so. What gives you that "right"? Do you have kids in a program? Do you vol. any time in your community? Were you such a bad athlete as a kid you just don't care about sports, so those that do, and maintain an area for them to be conducted on, NOT be upset with your self entitlement?
Response 3:
The law gives me
the right to go to another town that I don't pay taxes in and MD on that PUBLIC PROPERTY if the law does not ban MDing on that PUBLIC PROPERTY.
If it's not illegal, it's legal. Imagine that, I can use another city's park for MD (if not banned), or kite flying (if not banned), or other activities (if not banned) without asking the local volunteer's, baseball and soccer coaches, parks dept. secretary, groundskeepers, etc. All of your other comments about "kids in programs", "volunteering time in the community", me being a "bad athlete" is not relevant to the discussion (i.e. superfluous
BS). You certainly have the right to seek changes in the ordinances in your town that would ban all NON-taypaying visitors from using
YOUR parks. IMO , seems a bit inconsiderate, controlling, selfish, childish, etc., ...but you certainly have that right.
As for being an athlete, I see no need to go there. I'll just leave that up to your imagination.
Well, kinda sums it up, IMO.
Oh, one more thought Uptown:
IF IT'S NOT ILLEGAL, IT'S LEGAL.
. Nuff said.
