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Old 12-01-2017, 09:14 PM
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How do you think the EQUINOX will do on deep silver and gold rings at the salt beech?
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:02 PM
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How do you think the EQUINOX will do on deep silver and gold rings at the salt beech?
5-40kHz is a pretty wide band. I think the Etrac goes down to 1.5kHz which from what I understand is what helps it hit that deep silver.

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Old 12-01-2017, 10:28 PM
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You asked about the beach? Not as good on silver, but you are after gold.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:30 PM
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You asked about the beach? Not as good on silver, but you are after gold.
No only Beech for Gold rings, Dry land coin shooting for silver...
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:44 PM
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I am waiting to see how it does IN SALT WATER, stable? Deep?

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Old 12-06-2017, 12:59 PM
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I plan on buying one and hitting several beaches in the area. Also plan on getting out to a local area hundreds of boats anchor up at all summer and detecting in that 2-3ft deep water. I'm no expert but will most definitely report what I find.
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:27 PM
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5-40kHz is a pretty wide band. I think the Etrac goes down to 1.5kHz which from what I understand is what helps it hit that deep silver.


Just for consideration ,.....the Etrac is known for being good on deep silver , but just because it goes down to 1.5KHz does not necessarily mean it is the sole reason for that reputation.....and that also does not necessarily mean the EQ will not do as good or close starting at 5 KHz. That might be similar to a scenario where a detector was credited with finding more gold rings just because it ran at 40KHz.....you see , an operating frequency " that " high isn't necessarily needed to be good at finding rings , even though it would sure enough be sensitive to them.

I think some may be surprised when they see the difference between 1.5KHz and 5 KHz turns out to not make any noticeable difference in the long run.

Why would the Etrac go down to 1.5 if it wasn't needed ? ....because they can And the operating frequency is only part of the equation , coil quality and the rest of the software under the hood make up a large part of it as well. And some of the Etracs performance reputation could realistically be attributed to the fact that it don't like a fast swing speed , causing the experienced operator to slow down for better performance , and consequently noticing things that might have been missed otherwise.

Of course , time will tell......as well as the inevitable head to head comparisons. I'm not saying the low 1.5 KHz has no point at all , only that 5 is close enough that any slight difference might only be noticed in bench tests.

But I'm no expert , this is just my opinion.

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Old 12-08-2017, 10:57 PM
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But I'm no expert , this is just my opinion.
The 1.5kHz low frequency is not the sole reason, but it's definitely a factor that helps the Etrac and CTX over what is expected from Equinox performance. It's already been stated by Minelab that in certain conditions FBS will perform better than MultiIQ. No doubt the lower frequency is just one factor why. They also go up to 100kHz which is a much larger band spectum spread than the Equinox.

Lower frequencies are better for detecting high conductivity targets like silver.
Higher frequencies are better for detecting small and low conductivity targets like gold.

I'd think 1.5kHz to 5kHz would be quite a difference, more so when comparing to a single frequency detector like an AT Gold that operates at a set 18kHz (1.5kHz compared to 18kHz). But less of a difference in detectors that operate at 60kHz than another that runs 80kHz, even though the higher frequency gap from 60-80kHz is larger than the lower 1.5 to 5kHz.

I'm no expert either, but there is a science behind it. Theory vs reality are two different things though and newer/faster processing and firmware are making a huge difference now than in the past.

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The 1.5kHz low frequency is not the sole reason, but it's definitely a factor that helps the Etrac and CTX over what is expected from Equinox performance. It's already been stated by Minelab that in certain conditions FBS will perform better than MultiIQ. No doubt the lower frequency is just one factor why. They also go up to 100kHz which is a much larger band spectum spread than the Equinox.

Lower frequencies are better for detecting high conductivity targets like silver.
Higher frequencies are better for detecting small and low conductivity targets like gold.

I'd think 1.5kHz to 5kHz would be quite a difference, more so when comparing to a single frequency detector like an AT Gold that operates at a set 18kHz (1.5kHz compared to 18kHz). But less of a difference in detectors that operate at 60kHz than another that runs 80kHz, even though the higher frequency gap from 60-80kHz is larger than the lower 1.5 to 5kHz.

I'm no expert either, but there is a science behind it. Theory vs reality are two different things though and newer/faster processing and firmware are making a huge difference now than in the past.


Yes , I know about the science behind it and how the higher frequencies are better for gold and lower for deep silver. I doubt there will be a " quantifiable " difference anywhere but on a bench test with EM reading equipment.....or atleast I would have to see it to believe it. I bet the etrac would be a silver killer even if it did only go down to 5Khz. There is a measurable difference between the EM wave frequencies but both so low on the spectrum I just don't see 3 1/2 points at that level being a game changer. Is it really quantifiable out in the field ?.....or just in the shop , with testing equipment ? And just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop ?

Just splitting theoretical hairs to pass the time

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And just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop ?

Just splitting theoretical hairs to pass the time
It has become a waiting game. There have to be a bunch of testers out there that haven't been able to release info yet. Seems we're lucky if a new 2 minute video is released maybe every 2-3 weeks now. Whole lot of speculation and details on tech, but not much for real field results yet other than when introduced.

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And just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop ?

Just splitting theoretical hairs to pass the time
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How do you think the EQUINOX will do on deep silver and gold rings at the salt beech?
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Kids, drugs are bad...m'kay...
Just because you are ignorant to imply that I do drugs, it really only implies that you never read the OP's post. I took the time to quote it for you to read. As you can see it has nothing to do with implying someone is on drugs as you did but perhaps I am wasting my time and I'm awful sorry that you were kicked in the head when you were young but it really wasn't the Horse's fault that you never learned to read.

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I never implied you do drugs, I simply made a statement. You can agree with it or not and keep connecting bridges where there are none, but that's your choice.

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...but perhaps I am wasting my time...
Probably so.

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I never implied you do drugs, I simply made a statement. You can agree with it or not and keep connecting bridges where there are none, but that's your choice.



Probably so.
Since you are being obtuse. You were trying to imply that I was on drugs when you deliberately quoted my post to it.

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I have a lot of beeches around here! They kinda look salty on account of they are gray in color, resembling what a road looks in the Spring when the road salt dries..Nobody really calls them 'Salt beeches' though, But I imagine thats what led to the OP's confusion?

Great big Beeches! I do not know if any parts of them are edible? Plenty of other things to eat around here so I've never tried...There is a product called 'Beechnut chewing tobacco' which is sort of edible, in that you pop it into your mouth. I HAVE tried it once long ago when I was 12,...friggen threw up my socks!...

Anyway, hunting underneath an old beech may indeed yield some gold rings or silver coins, on account of they are about the perfect tree to carve initials and stuff into...Lovers hearts etc...Also, they grow up on the sand dunes in out of the way areas where Lovers would frequent, so the location is correct to precipitate a substantial and in some cases irreplaceable loss!

Beech wood is perfect for making cooking utensils out of, like those big paddles the guy down at the Farmers market uses to stir his Kettlecorn...or a pizza paddle, or a spoon or something...

We have a lot of Sassafras, which is a really good tree to nibble on! The green twigs and leaves are refreshing, and the roots are what rootbeer is made out of, I eat them all the time!...Now, regarding building bridges, White Oak would be the best for the main structure and support framing, mortise and tenon with Hickory pins of course...possibly a covered bridge with Cedar shingles would look nice, and Ash railings...

Alright Meow, on to the subject of drugs, of which I have a working base knowledge but limited real world experience.......Around here you can find wild Catnip in season. Cut it, hang it to dry, and smoke! Oh Lord! Your head will feel as if its a helium balloon! Floating above your body on a 10' string! You will be running around all Nimbly Pimbly, drinking milk out of a saucer, eating mice! Hope this helps! As you were gentlemen!

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