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I believe so. I think the update only added VCO on and off and changed the way the pinpointer works.
I think they'll be around $50.
I think they'll be around $50.
How much does one cost in US dollars??
My original version Rutus will be compatible, right??
Yep, its already built in, look under your audio setting.
It's the module I prefer over the one's built into the headphones for various reasons.
It's interesting that you're having a better result at 10" with a higher frequency. That just doesn't seem logical to me....
I've never used a Deus. I appreciate the side by side comparison.
I don't think the concentric coil was made for Impact.
Was the FORS Gold + unit maybe.
And this coil works on the Nokta Relic detector I think.
The medium sized coil for Impact is advertised as a DD coil measuring something like 5x9.5" .
Now I've read a gent forum name Tall Tom I think,,,who stated Nokta made a coil (structure wise) like Impact's stock coil but was made electronically to match Racer series,,,and this coil was tested for durability it seems while being used on either a Racer 1 or Racer 2 detector.
Very good move here by Nokta.
It would be interesting to know if other manufacturers do this what Inhave said here.
More Rutus data.
11" dd coil used exclusively.
Been dodging rain showers all day.
Went back to the site.
Hunted a while with Rutus,,,got the bright idea,,to use Deus 11" coil to find a target.
What I am trying to do is find out what more challenged targets look like and sound like with Rutus.
I found one target with Deus,,based on total target signature using Deus,,I would have rated probability based on my experience with Deus > 95% chance of being a nonferrous target.
So put away Deus and fired up Rutus,,swept target it was their alright,,,TID was a little rolly Polly,,checked target in 2 reactive setting,,3 reactive setting seemed to smooth out TID reading a bit.
Hodograph has curly cue presentation going ups the screen with some dot spacing. TID reading was coming in between 52-58 on most sweeps.
So cut the plug and only came up with about 3.5" of dirt depth wise.
With plug upside down,,swept with Rutus,,,bingo a dead lock crystal clear with 46 steady in the meter.
So it appears some degree of masking going on.
A piece of brass medium sized.
Clouds starting building again,,so I decided to bury a 10" deep clad dime this time. Ground conditions here not dry by no means.
So sweeping this 10" dime using Rutus.
I could get the dime to tone in,.very coil position sensitive.
Mask setting/ of 5 and 6 signal went bye bye on all sweeps.
I think levels 2 or 3 mask setting sounded the best,,better than 0 for sure.
This is a freshly buried (disturbed) target,,,so folks here be mindful of this,,not exactly scientific in a pure sense for testing or maybe even comparing detectors.
I noticed the same thing on this 10" deep dime here vs the 9" deep buried dime earlier today.
Lower freqs,,seems no real gains signal wise performance wise.
I thought actually on this 10" deep dime as long as I kept freq on Rutus dialed up at17khz or higher,,,this is where I got my best signals.
I played with hot rock setting again,,,If I run hot rock setting positive,,,signal went bye bye,,,going negative on hot rock setting didin't seem to help either but it didn't seem to hurt as much as going positive.
Reactivity level 1 when sweeping this 10" deep dime,,signal is louder vs a level 2 setting but the audio seems like it is cramped in reporting.
Reactvity 2 setting improve with smoother tone,,but lower volume.
Gain was maxed btw.
Something else I saw with this 10" dime,,that seemed to mirror what I saw with 9" deep dime,,,,sensitivity went set to max corrupts signal,,,dial down at around 86 much better on both of these dimes at depth.
I tried 0 disc and also disc level 30.
With zero disc it seemed like the tone would have the iron tone dompnent on some sweeps,,whereas at 30 disc setting,,all high tones.
Meter readings when they showed up were in the 98-107 range.
I think wearing headphones a person could hear this 10" deep dime in reactive 3 setting,,but with external speaker,,better be on your game.
I tried to detect dime with preset GB settings,,result was a very chopped signal.
So,,next I got the mighty Deus with 11" coil out and tried the dime.
I could hear the dime good.
Reactivity settings of 1,2 and 2.5 very diggable signal,,a level 3 setting,,I could hear but I rate only because I knew the dime was down there.
I tried both 8khz and 18khz,,with 8lhz providing a slightly louder signal.
Audio report at level 5 btw,,and this is Deus V4.
I checked using disc level of -2.5 with full tones ,,a lovely signal.
I also checked with disc at 6 and used 3 tones selected,,,not as good a signal IMO,,but there.
On this 10" dime buried,,,Deus gets the nod for best signal,,and more repetitive signals between sweeps percentage wise. From how both detectors signaled on 10" deep dime,,Rutus sounded like it was at the end of very near the end of its detection range here,,Deus sounded like it had a little more ways to go compared to how Rutus sounded. Hope this makes sense.
I don't think versions 3.2 Deus here would have faired as well,,based on my prior testing of Deus v3.2.
Cheers
I was out for a few hours today. After reading TNSS and ghound I ran the Rutus in the coins program, but upped the frequency to 17 kHz and ran reaction at 3. I was in an old, small town park that had a lot of trash to changed to the concentric coil. I only had 2 hours and am still digging everything just to verify the signals, so I dug a lot of junk. But I did get a 1917 Merc at about 5 inches. I'm pumped because silver is hard to find in our parks.
I always wonder why the silver is still there, given how hunted our parks are. I was running discrimination at 30. Again I feel the AT Pro would have hit it. It was in an area I hunted before. All I can say is the coil was never over the coin.
I'm still very excited about the Rutus and what it can do. Very quiet and versatile. So far, I really like the Rutus.
I didn't get the orientation of the dime. I'm able to pinpoint things very well with the Rutus and it fell out of the plug. I was expected a clad dime, I was very surprised to find the merc.
I'll try dialing down the gain, but I'm not unhappy with the sounds on the Rutus. I've run almost exclusively Coins 3. I need to work on setting some tone profiles. I'd like to dial up the nickel signal.
I like the ID spread on the Rutus as well, from 1 to 120. They were able to spread out the IDs between some of the aluminum targets and coins.
Out of curiosity, do you have another detector with a lower shaft the fits the Rutus? I'd like another to make switching coils easier and I haven't found one that Rutus sells. The AT Pro shaft is a little big.
Thanks.
Rutus sells three shafts. 10cm. Longer, standard and 10cm shorter.I didn't get the orientation of the dime. I'm able to pinpoint things very well with the Rutus and it fell out of the plug. I was expected a clad dime, I was very surprised to find the merc.
I'll try dialing down the gain, but I'm not unhappy with the sounds on the Rutus. I've run almost exclusively Coins 3. I need to work on setting some tone profiles. I'd like to dial up the nickel signal.
I like the ID spread on the Rutus as well, from 1 to 120. They were able to spread out the IDs between some of the aluminum targets and coins.
Out of curiosity, do you have another detector with a lower shaft the fits the Rutus? I'd like another to make switching coils easier and I haven't found one that Rutus sells. The AT Pro shaft is a little big.
Thanks.
Rutus sells three shafts. 10cm. Longer, standard and 10cm shorter.
I have ordered the shorter one...