ctx not running smooth today in the water

[Bigpoppa]

Originally Posted by njal

Dang if it was beer and burgers I would be leaving now!!!!

Well Craig ??

Beer and burgies ??

Al is on my way up there...We can be group hunting by low tide this evening

Us grasshoppers need your teachings

Plus all this talk of food is making me hungry

[Marty115]

Hey,

The important thing is he retrieved the quarter!!!!!
Ever chase a target until you lost the scoop handle in the hole??

[Bigpoppa]

Originally Posted by Marty115

Ever chase a target until you lost the scoop handle in the hole??

NO....But I did fall in the large hole and dissappear for a few minutes...

Lifeguards were immediately on their way to my rescue....I managed to stick the neon yellow coil cover just above the water to signal them that I was just fine... Unfortunately my quarter got away

[Cfmct]

Originally Posted by Bigpoppa

Well Craig ??

Beer and burgies ??

Al is on my way up there...We can be group hunting by low tide this evening

Us grasshoppers need your teachings

Plus all this talk of food is making me hungry

Sorry I don't drink... I can make some nice Colombian food though?

You will be hunting alone as its still raining up here...

[dewcon]

CS.... you been at this way longer than me.... but with those water conditions and sand movement its fairly easy to come across a DEEP green coin that might not have been missed, but now was moved. Darn surface targets can be 3 inches today..... tomorrow 20 inches in the wet sand. PPing in oat meal or wet sand can give you interesting depths. I couldnt tell you if a coin i found was 10 or 20 inches by the number of scoops. I think coins hate me when im chasing them around that hole..... and ive got an 11 inch scoop. Who needs a PI if i can get 20 inches..... is that about 15 on a heavy gold ring?

Dew

[Bigpoppa]

Originally Posted by Cfmct-PI

Sorry I don't drink... I can make some nice Colombian food though?

You will be hunting alone as its still raining up here...

Rain is okay as usually the water in the ocean gets me wet anyway, plus Al will brave it with me and maybe we can get a few shots into Joe and he will stagger out there with us

Now let's talk Colombian

That part sounds great, as not only am I hungry, but Colombian women are some of the most beautiful in the world..

Does your wife have any sisters, cousins, friends in your area ??

She can tell them that Al and I are two rich guys from Jersey, that are up visiting and we metal detect for our health

[itsaring!]

Originally Posted by Cfmct-PI

Sorry I don't drink... I can make some nice Colombian food though?

You will be hunting alone as its still raining up here...

Yeah,i quit drinking in '87 myself.But i'll never quit eating good food! Thanks Craig! Now i got to see if we have a Colombian restaurant around here

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Bigpoppa

..., but Colombian women are some of the most beautiful in the world..

Does your wife have any sisters, cousins, friends in your area ??

Uh oh, looks like somebody has been googling pictures of Sofia Vergara.

[Cfmct]

Originally Posted by Marty115

Hey,

The important thing is he retrieved the quarter!!!!!
Ever chase a target until you lost the scoop handle in the hole??

Sure have... then watched my friend fall into the hole, he took a swan dive in 3 feet of 39 degree water I couldn't stop laughing and Joe missed it with his video camera...

[mooncusser]

Originally Posted by robby4570

And you gave ME c@rp about getting into the water when it was JUST a yellow flag with half the wave action??? BOY, some people!
Swellinfo_DOT_com says it'll calm down into this evening and be flat through Monday... I'll be hitting it tomorrow for sure.

Congrats on getting out and the finds.

robby i didnt stay out there ) i went in the water for the sake of science. actually looking at beach cams now its calming down , gonna go after lunch.

[mooncusser]

any suggestions to bring my camera to the beach. i have dug quarters at 15 inches with my pi , im not saying the ctx will always hit coins at 20 inches , conditions where just right for me to pick up that whisper, what i will say without a doubt is the ctx is deeper than the sov and excal on the dry and wet sand and can pick out those targets next to iron which my sov and excal usually noth out. i dont have a horse in this race. i own the sov and excal . the sov is now retired , im not sure the ctx will be a good water machine due to falsing which may have been caused by the rough swells and undertow but i intend to find out lol . i plan on using duelfield from chest to neckdeep water and ctx or excal waist deep around the piers where there is alot of junk. gonna hit the surf today after lunch see how ctx runs in the water hh jim

[grinsebring]

I have been a MDer for a lot of years. On and off since the 70s. having lived in New England most of my life, ground balancing and rebalancing a detector in that soil was a must every 15 minutes. Florida on the other hand is the complete opposite. I don't even bother any more. Trying to achieve the perfect GB on my DFX, MXT, or BHID is just about a waste of time in some areas of the state. For the most part, there is nothing to balance against. I don't hunt the seashore, so I can't speak to that. Finding a coin beyond 8 inches with these machines is not a major issue. At a foot, the conditions have to be perfect. I can dig a foot for a 2 ounce lead sinker, a coin not so much. So if a fellow digger with a top of the line machine says he found a quarter at 20ish inches, I might be inclined to believe it. We all know you can dig to that depth by having the target sink a little deeper in the wallow by just missing it with the scoop.
Now if someone tried to tell me they found a coin beyond a foot in say New Jersey, or the shores of the Great lakes, this is what you would get from me......So unless I was a regular digger in Florida, I would be hard pressed to be critical of someone who made such a claim. Not trying to be a smarty,
just polite.

[CanSlaw]

Originally Posted by dewcon

CS.... you been at this way longer than me.... but with those water conditions and sand movement its fairly easy to come across a DEEP green coin that might not have been missed, but now was moved. Darn surface targets can be 3 inches today..... tomorrow 20 inches in the wet sand. PPing in oat meal or wet sand can give you interesting depths. I couldnt tell you if a coin i found was 10 or 20 inches by the number of scoops. I think coins hate me when im chasing them around that hole..... and ive got an 11 inch scoop. Who needs a PI if i can get 20 inches..... is that about 15 on a heavy gold ring?

Dew

Dew, I hear what you are saying but I have to look at MC posts with an open mind. He was honest to say the CTX did not work as expected in the rough water conditions. I for one, really appreciate his honest reports on his CTX. I don't know how the green quarter got there or how deep it really was, but he is saying it is finding targets deeper than his GT and I hunt with a GT so i know the depth the GT is capable of. Personally I don't care how many inches the hole was, just the fact he is sold on the depth being what it was and comparing to a machine I own.

Heck if Terry can dig bobby pins at 18 inches with a $600. detector anything is possible

[dewcon]

CS..... no doubt if he feels its deeper than the GT it must be pretty darn deep. You are l00 percent right..... its nice to see honest reports. He has given us a lot of good info. to digest. Are you counting your pennies CS?

Gil my DFX always went to preset GB. You still digging that gold over there? Ive got to take some time and come over for a hunt.... just make a day of it.

Dew

[CanSlaw]

Originally Posted by dewcon

CS..... no doubt if he feels its deeper than the GT it must be pretty darn deep. You are l00 percent right..... its nice to see honest reports. He has given us a lot of good info. to digest. Are you counting your pennies CS?
Dew

Not counting pennies but looking with an open mind. I am very concerned with the service problems with ML such as you are having with your Excalibur. That is why I look at all posts with an open mind and try to stay out of "detector wars" Heck if I was told it would be 2 months before I would get my water machine back, I would be "looking" for what else can work for me. The only way I can get that knowledge is to look what is on these forums with an open mind.

If I were to decide on trying a CTX, it would probably be used at 1/2 price, but not a new one with the still terrible ML customer service, thanks to reading your post with an open mind.

[ramer]

A coin at 20 inches plus? I'm glad my detector only goes to 18 inches. Don't like digging really deep holes.

[Max-VaBeach-Va]

i plan on making my decision tomorrow on keeping or returing this new heater.

it does a great job in the water and damp sand (never hunt dry), but god does it struggle in the wash zone for me.

i have switched this and that....gone to exchange and made up programs, nothing seems to help it.

not noisy to me, just seems like lots of mineral noise i call it - lots..4 tones not toooooo bad, but 50 tones.....not good.

as far a service goes.....since the expII came out, i have one read 1 post regarding issues. it seems this series......expII.....sepro.....etrac seem to never break down. now knock on wood, my excal. is breakdown free as it tim's 2 and kens, but our buddy gary has really suffered service with his excal. and it is only like 9 months old and then a replacement is only 5 weeks old, both have been in and out of the shop.

[mooncusser]

today i went in the water waist to chest deep i dug arond 7 bucks in clad 4 junk earrings pulltabs up the yingyang a silver ring and 11 bottlecaps, man bottlecaps sound good on this machine not like the excal or sov. the ctx doesnt like running water such as a rip current it seems unstable, in the calm water , i found a couple of troughs between sand bars it ran better. but as max put it mineral noises

so in the water it doesnt seem as smooth as the excal whether its deeper in the water than the excal i dont know as we are still sanded in here. i need to figure out how much depth this machine does at 18 sens of a possible 30 . i run my excal hot.

SOOOOOOOO the million dollar question what machine goes deeper the excal with high sens or the ctx at a little of half the sens. i do not have the answer yet hh jim

[dewcon]

You should be able to do some testing in the wet sand with a dime and get a very good idea as to how deep its hitting. Depth is going to vary by location we all know that. Many machine your finds tend to decrease until you learn the machine..... sounds like you are on the upswing with those finds. Good hunt.

Max.... i got one of the first SE's and have never had an issue with it.

Dew

[Cfmct]

Originally Posted by mooncusser

today i went in the water waist to chest deep i dug arond 7 bucks in clad 4 junk earrings pulltabs up the yingyang a silver ring and 11 bottlecaps, man bottlecaps sound good on this machine not like the excal or sov. the ctx doesnt like running water such as a rip current it seems unstable, in the calm water , i found a couple of troughs between sand bars it ran better. but as max put it mineral noises

so in the water it doesnt seem as smooth as the excal whether its deeper in the water than the excal i dont know as we are still sanded in here. i need to figure out how much depth this machine does at 18 sens of a possible 30 . i run my excal hot.

SOOOOOOOO the million dollar question what machine goes deeper the excal with high sens or the ctx at a little of half the sens. i do not have the answer yet hh jim

Alot of beach machines react to the minerals in the water... I'm sure you know that from running the DF... as you go deeper the threshold seems to increase in volume at least it does up here... its the detector reacting to the salt and minerals although it doesn't affect the performance