Scooterjim
Elite Member
Are you really trespassing at a dollar store? they are going to be inviting you to the store soon. You"re just there for the Pre-Grand Opening.
number 1, 2, and 4 are corporations, i don't feel bad.. Number 3, the elderly person, in distant city, yes that sounds wrong. The people who are vandalizing and stealing stuff from the house are more wrong but it is still wrong to even metal detect. I was wrong.
I only found one wheat penny there. Next time i'm out that way i'll put it back. It might not be the same one, because i don't remember the date but i think it was in the 50's.
This particular OP is clearly talking about privately owned land,...
...and stealing what the owner of the property does indeed own, ... ...
....I doubt either of us would appreciate some stranger showing up and detecting in our flower beds. ...
Correct. Which is why I tongue-in-cheek indicated that he would, of course, get an "absolutely not" answer from a forum where.... even things of a much-more-casual (even public) land get a "must ask" mentality. Thus ... how much more so for private land ?
Ahhh, interesting characterization of the function of our hobby. Yes, it's true, we do "take" (remove, etc... or "steal" as you call it) things. Right ? The problem is that this is a slippery slope. Because then so-too are we taking, harvesting, removing, and stealing things from public land. Oh sure, probably no one cares (they don't see it that way). But technically, this action does constitute all-of-the-above (we "take" things after all).
And the slippery slope is: There is always prohibitions on harvest, take, remove, from every speck of public land too. Yet human nature sees un-seen uknown items as being in a different class. I mean, would you see a difference between a merc. dime @ the locations the OP alludes to , versus a merc. dime in someone's coin collection you saw on their coffee table ?
I get the technicality of what you're getting at (it's technically true). It's just that if we start to look at md'ing as defined as "stealing", then why stop at private property ? The same concept applies at all levels, and is forbidden. The reason no one thinks of it that way, is that the average-Joe knows the difference ... in actual effect/impact.
Ahhh, sure, I agree. But you're painting an entirely different picture than the OP's "vacant lot" type scenarios he gave. You're envisioning something NOT abandoned (a private front yard no less).
Technically, yes, private is private. But the average joe recognizes a short-cut path across a vacant lot is a lot different than "hopping over someone fence to take a shortcut through their home's yard".
... Seriously...
Just last week I used the bathroom in a coffee shop without buying anything even though the sign said "For Customers Only". Ya, I'm an outlaw.
I must point out to you that the coffee shop was private property. So their private property ownership rights as well as mine should be respected. But you must deem them unworthy of those rights ? For whatever reason you see fit?
That's kinda self serving if I may say so. If your rights to property and my rights to property protect us from infringement by others, then so do everyone else's property rights afford them the same protection.
Is it really so terrible just to either get permission or buy a cup of coffee ? Seriously...
(I hope you see that this is tongue in cheek )
Done here. I knew I should have just moved along...
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Only one thought...
If you own anything, even though you aren't standing there watching over it, do you think anyone wanting to use/take/touch your property should have the respect to ask and receive your permission first?
Incorrigible indeed!
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I must point out to you that the coffee shop was private property. So their private property ownership rights as well as mine should be respected. But you must deem them unworthy of those rights ? For whatever reason you see fit?
Yes, But only if I have to pee real bad